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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Thanks for that, it's helpful. I'm not sure about the level of cost for utilities. Also, developers have to pay a fee to local authorities that takes account of the impact that the council has to pick up - predominantly school places where family-size homes are being built but also more basic amenity like refuse collection. I guess it is a multiplier when you are looking at a development of several dozen or several hundred houses.
    To get a gas service put in you're looking at about £800. I'd imagine you would be looking at the same for water, electric and bt line. It can be a lot cheaper if you excavate it yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Sorry, my last post was about house building.

    It has nothing to do with socialism more to do with social media.
    Although private land and housing is also a little contrary to the most staunch socialists, i wasnt meaning that.

    Just seems strange to accuse someone who wants to pool and share resources of being too dependant, and championing self reliance as a great virtue when that is counter to the philosophy of the left.

    Slightly contradictory perhaps...?

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    Although private land and housing is also a little contrary to the most staunch socialists, i wasnt meaning that.

    Just seems strange to accuse someone who wants to pool and share resources of being too dependant, and championing self reliance as a great virtue when that is counter to the philosophy of the left.

    Slightly contradictory perhaps...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    Although private land and housing is also a little contrary to the most staunch socialists, i wasnt meaning that.

    Just seems strange to accuse someone who wants to pool and share resources of being too dependant, and championing self reliance as a great virtue when that is counter to the philosophy of the left.

    Slightly contradictory perhaps...?
    It would be good if some posters were willing to share instead of the demand for answers all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samcrowe View Post
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    To get a gas service put in you're looking at about £800. I'd imagine you would be looking at the same for water, electric and bt line. It can be a lot cheaper if you excavate it yourself.
    Thanks. Genuinely had no idea about the cost of utilities, I pay little attention to my direct debits. Got a rough idea about Sky but guesswork with the others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    It would be good if some posters were willing to share instead of the demand for answers all the time.
    Fair point 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Scrapping the right to buy scheme was a good decision but as others have said its councils and housing associations that are building social housing not central government
    The Scottish government will have provided up to £3billion to local authorities for their house building projects, up to 2021.

    Let's not forget that.

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    If any Party in Scotland was serious about resolving our housing crisis they would start with planning and look at freeing up land/being much more permissive on applications to build.

    A tiny proportion of Scotland overall has been built upon, yet the planning system generally is in thrall to a mixture of Nimbyism and development plans which are too cautious and Councillors too scared of their own voters. The result is a choke-off of sufficient land to build, higher costs due to under supply of land and then higher prices for prospective buyers and tenants. Any marketplace for any product sees prices go through the roof when supply is restricted.

    Builders would quickly adapt to a marketplace where land was more available by building housing to buy or rent according to what the consumer wants and needs. And in that kind of transformed marketplace public sector capital spending on housing would buy much more bang for its buck.

    The Tories and Lib Dems are the worst panderers to Nimbyism, Labour can only see a state solution but has no strategic clue on the subject anyway and the Nats as usual don't wan't to scare the horses on policy in case they lose votes. The one politician who seemed to get any of this stuff in the last decade or so was Alex Neil who I think was genuinely keen to be radical but of course his face doesn't fit under Sturgeon so he's no longer a Minister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    If any Party in Scotland was serious about resolving our housing crisis they would start with planning and look at freeing up land/being much more permissive on applications to build.

    A tiny proportion of Scotland overall has been built upon, yet the planning system generally is in thrall to a mixture of Nimbyism and development plans which are too cautious and Councillors too scared of their own voters. The result is a choke-off of sufficient land to build, higher costs due to under supply of land and then higher prices for prospective buyers and tenants. Any marketplace for any product sees prices go through the roof when supply is restricted.

    Builders would quickly adapt to a marketplace where land was more available by building housing to buy or rent according to what the consumer wants and needs. And in that kind of transformed marketplace public sector capital spending on housing would buy much more bang for its buck.

    The Tories and Lib Dems are the worst panderers to Nimbyism, Labour can only see a state solution but has no strategic clue on the subject anyway and the Nats as usual don't wan't to scare the horses on policy in case they lose votes. The one politician who seemed to get any of this stuff in the last decade or so was Alex Neil who I think was genuinely keen to be radical but of course his face doesn't fit under Sturgeon so he's no longer a Minister.
    Well, it seems some local authorities are managing to free up land for building. Here are just 3 examples in my local authority

    https://www.springfield.co.uk/develo...th_bertha_park

    http://www.scottishhousingnews.com/1...shire-village/

    http://www.pkc.gov.uk/article/20180/...-in-Perth-West
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    If any Party in Scotland was serious about resolving our housing crisis they would start with planning and look at freeing up land/being much more permissive on applications to build.

    A tiny proportion of Scotland overall has been built upon, yet the planning system generally is in thrall to a mixture of Nimbyism and development plans which are too cautious and Councillors too scared of their own voters. The result is a choke-off of sufficient land to build, higher costs due to under supply of land and then higher prices for prospective buyers and tenants. Any marketplace for any product sees prices go through the roof when supply is restricted.

    Builders would quickly adapt to a marketplace where land was more available by building housing to buy or rent according to what the consumer wants and needs. And in that kind of transformed marketplace public sector capital spending on housing would buy much more bang for its buck.

    The Tories and Lib Dems are the worst panderers to Nimbyism, Labour can only see a state solution but has no strategic clue on the subject anyway and the Nats as usual don't wan't to scare the horses on policy in case they lose votes. The one politician who seemed to get any of this stuff in the last decade or so was Alex Neil who I think was genuinely keen to be radical but of course his face doesn't fit under Sturgeon so he's no longer a Minister.
    You make a very valid point.

    New house building in itself does nothing to make housing more affordable if the houses being built cost the same (or more likely a premium) to the existing stock.

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