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    Wee visit to watch Sunderland today

    Dylan starts yesss ..lets see how this goes !!


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    For players that get paid multiple thousands of pounds a week this is poor, we should never accept and challenge anyone sayiing our football is inferior to this over hyped stuff.
    Its fair to say that they have the same problem here with match officials being awful as we do ... one linesman alone has got 4 important decisions wrong a booking that wasn't a foul, a corner didnt give it , sunderland goal -player assist was a yard at least off...and its just half time .
    Dyaln playing ongside Cattermole ...showing bits of himself, I couldnt watch this style of play every week ...

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    Scott Allan is in the crowd at Charlton today

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    Scott Allan is in the crowd at Charlton today
    Can the likes of Charlton still get loans in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leither17 View Post
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    Scott Allan is in the crowd at Charlton today
    He’s down visiting one of his friends that plays for Charlton.

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    Can the likes of Charlton still get loans in?
    No their deadline for loan signings was 31st August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoasthibby View Post
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    For players that get paid multiple thousands of pounds a week this is poor, we should never accept and challenge anyone sayiing our football is inferior to this over hyped stuff.
    Its fair to say that they have the same problem here with match officials being awful as we do ... one linesman alone has got 4 important decisions wrong a booking that wasn't a foul, a corner didnt give it , sunderland goal -player assist was a yard at least off...and its just half time .
    Dyaln playing ongside Cattermole ...showing bits of himself, I couldnt watch this style of play every week ...
    I've said for a long long time now that just because these guys get paid 5,6,7 times what our players get paid it doesn't mean they are 5,6,7 times better. There are some bang average players who are multi millionaires simply because they have played in England

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoasthibby View Post
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    For players that get paid multiple thousands of pounds a week this is poor, we should never accept and challenge anyone sayiing our football is inferior to this over hyped stuff.
    Its fair to say that they have the same problem here with match officials being awful as we do ... one linesman alone has got 4 important decisions wrong a booking that wasn't a foul, a corner didnt give it , sunderland goal -player assist was a yard at least off...and its just half time .
    Dyaln playing ongside Cattermole ...showing bits of himself, I couldnt watch this style of play every week ...
    How did Dylan play?

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    How did Dylan play?
    Had a wee look at the Sunderland forum, Ready to Go, and from the thread on him there he's not doing too much to win the fans over.
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    Had a wee look at the Sunderland forum, Ready to Go, and from the thread on him there he's not doing too much to win the fans over.
    Yup. A few saying he's crap. Grass isn't always greener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SallyCinnamon View Post
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    Yup. A few saying he's crap. Grass isn't always greener.
    It likely will be if you're earning 3 or 4 times what your previous employer was paying you.
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    It likely will be if your earning 3 or 4 times what your previous employer was paying you.
    True

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    Nothing much usual tidy in possession, no telling passes ..has a fair bit of crap around him in that team.

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    I am sure Dylan made the choice that was right for him, but today he was playing against Fleetwood when you could argue he could of been playing against Hazard and Lukakau last night if he had stayed at Hibs and started the season well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    It likely will be if you're earning 3 or 4 times what your previous employer was paying you.
    Grass really greener ? Depends what you want from life...I know lots of people who earn 4 times more than me that are miserable as sin, divorced, stressed and verging on depression.

    A footballers career may be short, but they should be 12-15 years of happiness, getting to play the game you love, full of highs and great memories that also earn you a handsome wage. I don't think there is any doubt that last season with Hibs was the happiest and most fulfilling of his career. Playing well, mostly injury free, adored by the fans and playing in a successful team with a great dressing room atmosphere. He now has more money in his pocket and none of that. I don't see that as greener grass. More lucrative maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    Grass really greener ? Depends what you want from life...I know lots of people who earn 4 times more than me that are miserable as sin, divorced, stressed and verging on depression.

    A footballers career may be short, but they should be 12-15 years of happiness, getting to play the game you love, full of highs and great memories that also earn you a handsome wage. I don't think there is any doubt that last season with Hibs was the happiest and most fulfilling of his career. Playing well, mostly injury free, adored by the fans and playing in a successful team with a great dressing room atmosphere. He now has more money in his pocket and none of that. I don't see that as greener grass. More lucrative maybe.
    Good post.

    The only thing I’d say though is that I think he’d achieved all he was likely to with Hibs. Won a cup, got promoted, played in Europe, won an international cap......

    I think if he didn’t move this season he’d have spent the rest of his life wondering ‘what if’.

    Imo this was the right time for him to move, whether Sunderland was the right move for him is a different matter altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    Grass really greener ? Depends what you want from life...I know lots of people who earn 4 times more than me that are miserable as sin, divorced, stressed and verging on depression.

    A footballers career may be short, but they should be 12-15 years of happiness, getting to play the game you love, full of highs and great memories that also earn you a handsome wage. I don't think there is any doubt that last season with Hibs was the happiest and most fulfilling of his career. Playing well, mostly injury free, adored by the fans and playing in a successful team with a great dressing room atmosphere. He now has more money in his pocket and none of that. I don't see that as greener grass. More lucrative maybe.
    Looking at subjectively you could argue the opposite and say he could have stayed and we struggle this season and end up 5th or 6th whereas he has moved on and playing for a team with a huge support in a massive stadium and could potentially be playing in one of the most competitive leagues in the world next season with the 5th highest average attendance in the world. And then you add in the fact that his contract with Sunderland will likely mean he will never need to work again when he retires and can provide a fantastic living for his family.

    I can see why he done it and I'm sure he won't be losing any sleep over it.

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    Had a wee look at the Sunderland forum, Ready to Go, and from the thread on him there he's not doing too much to win the fans over.
    That forum can be a bit mental.

    They were happy enough with McGeouch throughout pre-season, then he got injured and today was his first start after injury.

    He might have a job on his hands as there is some absolute rubbish in that Sunderland team. It will be quite a step down for him to go from playing with John McGinn to playing with Lee Cattermole.

    There will be big pressure on them to win at a canter every week, and they won't take kindly to setbacks. Fleetwood have started the season well and that game was no gimme, but they'll probably be tearing strips off each other on that forum just because they didn't win today.

    I do think they'll win the league, and given the re-build they've had to do they've not started all that badly.

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    Sometimes money isn't everything, the enjoyment you get playing for a team who's fans love you and a management/board who want you. He was getting regular International squad call ups and was when fit one of the 1st teams on the team sheet. Personally I think he's made a mistake and may rue it but it's his choice.

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    I moved up from the north east recently and had worked with Sunderland season ticket holders and they are not impressed so far
    with Mcgeough. It’s too early too call IMO as he’s recently returned from injury. They are saying any team that plays at the stadium of light it is like a cup final to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbc70 View Post
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    I am sure Dylan made the choice that was right for him, but today he was playing against Fleetwood when you could argue he could of been playing against Hazard and Lukakau last night if he had stayed at Hibs and started the season well.
    Financially it was right.

    But playing in the third tier of football...is definately not the right choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoasthibby View Post
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    Dylan starts yesss ..lets see how this goes !!
    I'm a bit unique here in that whilst I live here in Gateshead and have a Hibs season ticket when Hibs aren't home I watch Sunderland and have a season ticket there as well.
    5 years ago not one Hibs player would have got in the Sunderland team, then both teams fortunes changed and I'm confident in saying in the past two seasons every Hibs player is a starter for sunderland and that's still the case this season.
    Dylan actually started on Tuesday and is settling in ok, problem for me is that he's too similiar to the way Cattermole plays now, what Dylan needs to thrive is an attacking midfielder to allow him to do the dirty work like he did last season for McGinn with many outside Hibs not giving him the credit he deserved, arguably he was our player of the season last year.
    Sunderland are a work in progress and I'm hopefully along with Dylan they will improve as the season progresses.
    One thing going well for club is the fans are back onside and 29k today is testimony to that after years of utter tripe.

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    Come back Dylan.

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    If Sunderland dont go up Ross will be out on his arse, a new manager will come in, revamp the squad and Dylan will end up back in Scotland. Hope it works out for him down there but not sure he picked the right club. How he's ended up a league below McGinn is mental. He's not done much for his international chances either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    Looking at subjectively you could argue the opposite and say he could have stayed and we struggle this season and end up 5th or 6th whereas he has moved on and playing for a team with a huge support in a massive stadium and could potentially be playing in one of the most competitive leagues in the world next season with the 5th highest average attendance in the world. And then you add in the fact that his contract with Sunderland will likely mean he will never need to work again when he retires and can provide a fantastic living for his family.

    I can see why he done it and I'm sure he won't be losing any sleep over it.
    That sums up what I think of the move. A lot of people assuming he's sad about missing the chance to get beat by Livi.

    There's huge potential for him at Sunderland, they should be challenging at the top end of the championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Sometimes money isn't everything, the enjoyment you get playing for a team who's fans love you and a management/board who want you. He was getting regular International squad call ups and was when fit one of the 1st teams on the team sheet. Personally I think he's made a mistake and may rue it but it's his choice.
    Football fans are fickle and Dylan was an injury away from being a waste of a wage etc, etc. Management also changes , as does personnel. Last season he was oartnered by John McGinn, this season it would be Stevie Mallan, some difference there.

    Dylan was called up to one international squad which was for some end of season meaningless development games. If he does well at Sunderland then he’ll be back in the frame. As it stands he has barely featured due to, you guessed it, injury.

    It was a no brainer decision.

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    Football fans are fickle and Dylan was an injury away from being a waste of a wage etc, etc. Management also changes , as does personnel. Last season he was oartnered by John McGinn, this season it would be Stevie Mallan, some difference there.

    Dylan was called up to one international squad which was for some end of season meaningless development games. If he does well at Sunderland then he’ll be back in the frame. As it stands he has barely featured due to, you guessed it, injury.

    It was a no brainer decision.
    Good post.
    Exactly what you would have said to to Dylan if you were in his corner in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SallyCinnamon View Post
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    Yup. A few saying he's crap. Grass isn't always greener.
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    Can’t say that I grudge Dylan moving on but I do wish he’d gone to a bigger club than bloody Sunderland 🙄

    I do miss watching the wee guy. Special player on his day. #Legend

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    Can’t say that I grudge Dylan moving on but I do wish he’d gone to a bigger club than bloody Sunderland 🙄

    I do miss watching the wee guy. Special player on his day. #Legend
    There's not a huge amount of clubs bigger than Sunderland in England and most of them will be in the premiership.

    Just because they're currently pish doesn't mean they're a wee team.

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