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14-10-2018 06:01 PM #211
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14-10-2018 06:33 PM #212This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Whereas in other countries they do concentrate a lot more on the grass roots - its the same in France, even wee diddy villages apply for and get money for decent pitches / changing facilities etc.
I was out last night and two of my mates are youth coaches, both thinking of jacking it in as its just getting too much hassle to be worth it.
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14-10-2018 06:48 PM #213
Are at a new low? We had some pretty brutal teams in recent years, seemed to improve a bit under Strachan but look awful just now. I don’t share the view held by some that we’ve got some good players. They’re pretty mediocre all over the park by international standards.
It seems every country produces a great world class player every now and again but it’s literally been decades for us. I watch and support Scotland and go to the odd game but I can see why people don’t care about them.
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14-10-2018 06:56 PM #214
Are we obliged to have a national team? Just seems a waste of time and money
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14-10-2018 07:09 PM #215This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-10-2018 08:26 PM #216This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-10-2018 08:44 PM #217
Shouldn’t even bother having a national team any more.
It’s been a whole generation now since we made a tournament and for me the enthusiasm is just not there.
There were players there tonight were so bad it was embarrassing.
International breaks are awful
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14-10-2018 09:02 PM #218This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd back Hibs to beat that Scotland team. You could make a better back 3/ back 5 with Scottish Hibs players than you could with that rabble.
I think the main problem we have is that players would rather play for their club than play for Scotland - see the call-offs. Players will use Scotland as a necessary stepping stone to get a big bucks move and when they're earning big they don't give a hoot, leaving us with raw, eager but poorer players and disinterested primadonnas.
And I don't think changing manager can change that.
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14-10-2018 09:06 PM #219This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 01:29 AM #220This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 09:17 AM #221This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not complicated. Scotland needs to spend some proper money on infrastructure.Last edited by hibsbollah; 15-10-2018 at 09:19 AM.
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15-10-2018 09:28 AM #222
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15-10-2018 09:51 AM #223
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Perceptions of Scotland's supposed potential are distorted by the fact we qualified for five World Cups in a row from the mid-70s to 1990. Looking at the wider picture we have actually played at well under half the World Cups which have been staged and qualified for only TWO European Championships. The reality is we are, for the most part, a minnow on the international stage.
A large percentage of fans now watching football at club and international level (as well as a very large number of players) will not have been born the last time Scotland played at a major tournament and, for them, being also-rans is the norm. The pressure comes from a large section of media/pundits who are old enough to remember when we did used to qualify and are therefore measuring today's teams against a long-gone golden era. They need to ditch this perception of Scotland as under-achievers and accept that we're down among the also-rans because we're simply not a significant football power. By doing so they might relieve the pressure on the team and give them some breathing space to improve over time rather than seeing the pressure ramped up to unrealistic levels every two years.
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15-10-2018 10:06 AM #224This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Been promised by the SFA since the Argentina debacle, never going to happen.
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15-10-2018 12:02 PM #225This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 03:39 PM #227
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15-10-2018 05:14 PM #228
Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer?
I was very impressed with the way he conducted himself when his team played us, and Molde looked a pretty well-drilled unit. Surely a national team job would be a step up from Molde? Michael O'Neill has raised his profile and got some decent offers as a result of doing well with Northern Ireland, who arguably don't have the players we have.
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15-10-2018 06:13 PM #229
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15-10-2018 06:21 PM #230
We are now at the point where we are seriously struggling to qualify from the 3rd division of European nations in a group involving Albania and Israel.
The only level below where we are right now is groups involving nations like Gibraltar, San Marino and Kosovo.
We are light years away from qualifying for a major tournament, never mind actually being competitive in one.
Changing the manager will achieve absolutely nothing. We need major changes to the entire structure of the way that football is run in this country. Until that happens, the national team would be as well being disbanded.
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15-10-2018 06:22 PM #231This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't think Scotland's problems are restricted to the manager's position, but I refuse to accept that the drivel served up over the past week is the best we can accept from the group of players eligible to play for Scotland.
The players either need to buck their ideas up and play for McLeish or he should be replaced.
Both performances over the past week were abject, with players looking lost, not knowing what their role was and not looking like they really want to be there.
Would that be the case with the same group of players under Solsjkaer? The Northern Ireland job has offered O'Neill a decent step up from Brechin via the Irish league to surely a good job next? Is it fantasy to consider that a manager being a relative success with Scotland could expect a similar career boost?
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15-10-2018 06:57 PM #232This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Add in the way he's set the team up to accommodate one player, and with some of his team selections being very strange, i'd say a different manager would sort that out right away.
I agree we are poor, but to deliberately make us poorer is a sackable offence in my book, and he should go now.
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15-10-2018 07:09 PM #233This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Although it's also true as SDG says that our long term structural problems will continue to hold us back unless they're dealt with. At governmental level, probably.
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15-10-2018 07:21 PM #234This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 07:22 PM #235
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When is the time that we say enough is enough? A radical change to how football in the this country is run. I'm not talking about tinkering around the edges, but radical changes.
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15-10-2018 07:29 PM #236This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But if Croatia can reach a World Cup final, Wales can produce a player like Gareth Bale, Iceland can qualify for major finals with a small population and unkind climate for football, Greece, Denmark and Portugal all win the Euros - is it unreasonable to expect a football mad nation to do a wee bit better than it currently does?
Qualify for the finals 2-3 times every twenty years and once in a lifetime progress beyond the group stages?
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15-10-2018 07:42 PM #237
Check out the 74 to 90 squads and then to todays squad and you will see the issue. Gone are the days of us having a squad full of players playing at top English clubs and even European clubs, European cup winners as well. Our players, generally, now would prefer an easy 10/15 k a week in Glasgow rather than working hard to get to the top clubs and really improving their game. We also have a totally **** manager who was past his sell by date 10 years ago
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15-10-2018 08:03 PM #238This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 08:14 PM #239This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-10-2018 08:14 PM #240
It's ridiculous that Britain punches so much above its weight in the Olympics but performs so poorly at football which we're all daft about.
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