Yip, plenty pitches available. It’s good people that’s needed and better coaches. There are way less clubs now than when I was a kid. There are loads of reasons for that concerning bureaucracy and child protection and that is where the money needs spent to help people who want to run clubs.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I coach at Spartans and it’s the easiest place in Scotland to coach. Everything is done for us and we have amazing facilities. CPD courses are booked for us and our PVG paperwork is all handled by the office staff. We just show up and coach. That is nothing like the experience of most youth coaches out there. They mostly have to do all that themselves, build goals and get nets up, bring all their cones, footballs in their cars etc. And on top of all that they are filling in paperwork themselves when they get home.
What needs to happen though is for that kind of support made available to every club. And that costs money.
Every team playing in the top division in each region should have a coach with his UEFA B license provided to them. But again, that costs money.
I’m just a volunteer coach who has a kid in the team. Already every kid in the team is a better player than I was at that age and I don’t have the time to study for the coaching badges that would really make a difference. They need high quality coaches if they are to continue improving. And I’m certain that is the same for most clubs.
Wasting money doing up Hampden when we have so much else we could spend money on is madness. I’m certain that is the way the SFA will go though.
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08-09-2018 06:13 PM #91
Decline of Scottish National Football Team
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08-09-2018 07:06 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuotePM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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Previous generations were more resourceful, we used to produce world class players, any patch of grass/concrete no matter how dimly lit would suffice, play 7 days a week, thats what gets you to world class.
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08-09-2018 07:41 PM #96
It was a terrible decision to get rid of Strachan and bring McLiesh back. We should have kept going with Strachan if the best we could come up with as a replacement was McLiesh. So backwards a step that it would never happen with any other country except Scotland. Jobs for the boys or the cheap option or whatever just a stunningly bad appointment.
There are so many things that we need to sort but it will never happen until the SFA/SPFL stop pandering to two clubs, the blazers and the clubs stop being selfish and looking after themselves and look at football in Scotland as a whole.
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we should have begged the wee man to stay on
with one condition he stopped picking the big girly craig gordon
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08-09-2018 08:01 PM #98
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Even as a pro at São Paulo, when they did have balls, he would practice for hours with a ball barely bigger than a tennis ball. Says the real thing was a sinche after that.
Didn’t produce a bad bunch of players.
If we had more confidence in our abilities and stopped making excuses maybe we’d get back to the top of the game. Belief breeds winners IMHO
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08-09-2018 08:15 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd love to see more lads playing football in the streets but that's not going to get us to the level of Belgium, Croatia or even Iceland. I'm all for playing football for fun but to produce serious players you need the right coaches and the right equipment. A boys club can't train in a dimly lit car park on a winters night.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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On another level since failing to qualify for the 1994 World Cup France have been in 3 WC finals, winning 2 and 2 Euro finals, winning 1. Read about the top to bottom overhaul of the game after the 94 embarrassment and tell me that's a coincidence. They invested hugely in facilities and coaches, made it compulsory for teams to play young home grown players and developed a system in which it was almost impossible for a talented player to slip through the net. I was in Montpellier a couple of years ago and the facility that backed on to my mates house was 2nd to none and streets ahead of even what the likes of Spartans have here; that's replicated 3 or 4 times across that one, relatively speaking, small city.
We aren't getting to that level but qualifying for a major tournament is our WC final. Whilst other nations seem to have embraced change we still seem to be blaming Playstations and busy roads.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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08-09-2018 09:31 PM #102
Imo it boils down to lack of participation.
When I was a boy every boy played, yes to varying degrees of ability but everyone played.
Half the time in places that they shouldn't, I lost count of the times we were chased by the parkie or the polis, but folk were so keen to play they played wherever they could
Huge games with later arrivals decided by a cock and a hen were commonplace
Everyone wanted to get in their school team / play for their boys club / play for their street / scheme.
As soon as you were big enough you played against folk many years older than you and it toughened you up.
In some ways it was a rite of passage getting picked to play by bigger boys
It was absolutely unthinkable that most of the boys that stuck with it to secondary school wouldn't then go on and play as adults
I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a bunch of kids walking down a street with a ball, in my youth a ball was your most prized possession.
Nowadays it seems that mum or dad need to take them to a boys club to encourage kids to play.
Many lack the basic ability to cross or trap a ball as the only time they see it is at training.
Coaches do a great job but they cant make silk purses out of sows ears and far too often that is what they are tasked with doing through lack of numbers to thin down into good players capable of developing to a good standard
The transition from what was in my day A forms to the first team has always been fraught but one thing that really surprises me in Scotland is that very few teams sign players from lower leagues
Is it the case that the top teams pick up all the top talent and then put it through the meat grinder so that these boys either make it or quit and the lower teams only get to sign players who will very seldom be capable of playing at a higher level.
If that is the case that layer of discarded talent that might come good elsewhere is lost to the game.
Having said that I can think of very few players discarded as youths by Hibs who have made us regret doing so over the last 30 years, so maybe clubs know what they are doing?
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08-09-2018 10:33 PM #103
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There's plenty of problems, the Soviet union splitting up, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia all splitting up and forming more countries with bigger playing pools hasn't helped.
But last night, we played 3 at the back for no reason other than to shoe horn Tierney into the team.
souter, Robertson, Tierney and Mullgree all play a back 4 every week yet we use them in a back 3 then put Fraser as a right wing back when he plays left midfield if I'm not mistaken for Bournemouth
Total farce
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08-09-2018 10:53 PM #104
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Has the team actually gotten worse though? We've always been utterly dreadful.
The real problem is why do we continue to be pish whilst nations like Belgium have kicked on and become a world force?
It's shocking from a nation of football supporters.
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09-09-2018 02:45 AM #108
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There is no where for kids to go and play. Goals get locked up parents think its unsafe for the kids to play on the street and kids don't get that street football experience anymore. Mix that with the fact that youth coaches in Scotland are treated like crap and most of the good ones end up abroad you are left with parents who yes may try in their eyes to do the best running sessions at boys clubs ending up stunting the development of the players and a governing body who is just filled with dinosaurs all adds up to the first team being crap.
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Anyone that listens to the Si Ferry, will notice the same statement from ex players. Everyone to a man says that dressing rooms back then as a young lad were much better. Yes they caught **** from the older heads, but they grew up fast and were better players for it. Get back to these young lads cleaning boots and earning there place.
No surprise that some of the best talent came from the streets playing fitbaw with jumpers for goal posts. This cookie cutter training from the academy's is guff. You listen to the ex players talking and it's all pass, pass, pass. Very little on letting the players express themselves.
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Youth football is great and there are loads of dedicated coaches but for lots of kids going to football is just one activity out of a whole list of activities that they do every week. Its not the be all and end all it was for our generations.
I think Scotland will continue to produce good players and maybe even some great players but our relative affluence means that we no longer have the environment that used to mass produce them.
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09-09-2018 09:53 AM #111
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09-09-2018 10:11 AM #112
Do kids in Croatia, Uruguay, Denmark, Wales, Slovakia, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Costa Rica, Iceland and Bosnia (countries with similar or smaller populations above us in the ranking) never ever stay home all day and never ever play on game consoles as opposed to playing real football? Are Scotland somehow the only country in the world where kids stay at home all day, that somehow the shift to home entertainment has in fact eluded every country in the world except Scotland? All the kids in Croatia, Uruguay, Denmark, Wales, Slovakia, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Costa Rica, Iceland and Bosnia are out there every evening and every weekend always playing football?
That excuse is bull**** IMO. It's the administration and the unwillingness to invest and progress in coaching that's at fault.
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The bleating about 'playing Xboxes' and 'tanner ba' players' is part of the problem rather than the solution. It's excuses and doesn't explain why other countries have dealt with it and we haven't. Harking back to some golden age is letting the SFA with their negligence.
I'm wary of mentioning them because I'm not on some of their Christmas card lists but look at what Helping Hands acheived in Edinburgh. Hundreds of kids enjoying structured and well organised coachung sessions with a bunch of enthusiastic volunteers. Just imagine there was the will at the SFA and SYFA to roll out a similar national programme at an 'elite' level. Instead we'll get more soul searching, reports and end up in the same position in 2022, 2026 and so on.
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09-09-2018 11:00 AM #114
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09-09-2018 11:08 AM #115
Football has moved on since the days when we qualified for tournaments, and the world has also moved on too.
Parents want to know where their kids are 24/7, kids do stay indoor much more these days, entertainment in the home is a huge part of their lives now, but this is also the same the whole world over bar some of the 3rd world.
We need lots more proper organised coaching, with proper coaches who can teach kids how to play and learn the skills needed to reach elite levels.
As is the norm, not many will make it and most will fall by the wayside, but we are still producing some decent players, but give them the right facilities and give them proper coaching from people who know what they are doing and surely we'd produce more.
Its no secret that others countries are doing this and seeing the results, but of course its all down to money and how well its used.
One question we cant answer though, is have we the right people at the top who know how to do this and do they actually have the capabilities to take football forward the way it needs to go?
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09-09-2018 11:18 AM #116
Don’t have all the answers but something wrong when so called inferior football nations consistently outrank us. Need real football people in at the SFA not blazers. I used to get a buzz and butterflies in my stomach when Scotland played and felt so proud of them. Don’t get this anymore. Thought it was an age thing as 60 next year but I still get the buzz before a Hibs game. Need a total overhaul of the SFA just like Hibs done post relegation and try to engage the fans more.
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Without question, the social shift in kids pursuits is at the heart of the National tram’s decline. You could easily argue that Scotland was punching well above its weight in the 50-80s due the sheer volume of young lads playing football day and night. However, the football authorities have failed to recognise and replace that, so we are where we are - finding our own level among the worst footballing nations in Europe.
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Friday's result against Belgium can't really have come as much of surprise. In a match between the world's third best team and a nation which hasn't qualified for a major tournament in over 20 years I'd have thought the scoreline was pretty much to be expected.
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