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    Quote Originally Posted by basehibby View Post
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    The penalty was not 50/50 - it was stonewall.

    That said he does seem to make consistently pish decisions against Hibs - the change of mind about a second yellow being a case in point.

    Re Scottish refs in general I think they have a tendency to let niggly fouls slip and to be slow to reach for the cards. Though you could argue this was "letting the game flow" or that "it's a man's game", in reality it benefits hammer-throwing sides like Hearts while penalising teams that try to play football. All in all a tendency which is bad for Scottish football IMO.
    Totally agree too many of them allow the continual fouling and stopping of the game to go unpunished as you say something which is bad for the game as it doesnt flow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeKay View Post
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    Agreed. Stonewall penalty, but the word is that it was the linesman that spotted it - so Clancy can't even claim to have got that right.
    Don't think he posts on here, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRHibs View Post
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    This is hilariously true. There’s been numerous occasions on which I’ve seen threads like this on both ours and our opposition’s pages simultaneously.

    For people who think the refs are against us: what makes us right, and the Aberdeen fans (for example) wrong?

    As a few have said, they’re just incompetent.
    No one on this thread is saying all refs in Scotland are against us, just Clancy??

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    No one on this thread is saying all refs in Scotland are against us, just Clancy??
    But we've also had Thomson and Beaton off the top of my head that are "against us" instead of just being **** refs

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    Not just Clancy who is a poor Muir Robertson ,Madden,Walsh and even McLean are inconsistent
    If they judged every decision the same way then we would have a lot less to moan about ,
    End of problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulGoodman View Post
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    But we've also had Thomson and Beaton off the top of my head that are "against us" instead of just being **** refs
    Thomson was though, for a few seasons.

    http://www.hibs.net/content.php?378-Craig-Thomson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Thomson was though, for a few seasons.

    http://www.hibs.net/content.php?378-Craig-Thomson
    They all even themselves out over time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    They all even themselves out over time though.
    Fair enough. When we get awarded non-pen and have a player let off from red card for fore-arm smashing a Hearts striker in a Cup Final striker it'll be even.

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    One of the most annoying things about Scottish refs in their inability to let you take quick free kicks and play advantage. There was one on Sunday where he gave a foul while we had just passed the ball to Stevenson who was in acres on the left, I thought that he must have been booking him or else why would he pull the game up but no.

    The ref for the Asteras home game was a great example of playing advantage and allowing quick free kicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Fair enough. When we get awarded non-pen and have a player let off from red card for fore-arm smashing a Hearts striker in a Cup Final striker it'll be even.
    When saying they will even themselves over time that is on the other side of when hell freezes over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    When saying they will even themselves over time that is on the other side of when hell freezes over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Totally agree too many of them allow the continual fouling and stopping of the game to go unpunished as you say something which is bad for the game as it doesnt flow.
    +1 here. It annoys the hell out of me in derbies when the ref takes the 'common sense' approach and keeps his cards in his pocket for bad challenges when there's only one team doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by givescotlandfreedom View Post
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    +1 here. It annoys the hell out of me in derbies when the ref takes the 'common sense' approach and keeps his cards in his pocket for bad challenges when there's only one team doing it.
    Absolutely the last one at Tynecastle was shocking. Also Madden let too many away with late tackles in the one at ER.

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    I was in the West Stand, section 2, on Sunday, so had a very good view of the penalty. and it looked like Efe got the ball first. Is that not what happened?




    Haven't seen a video of the incident yet, so relying others that have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    I was in the West Stand, section 2, on Sunday, so had a very good view of the penalty. and it looked like Efe got the ball first. Is that not what happened?




    Haven't seen a video of the incident yet, so relying others that have.
    Looked like Efe took a heavy touch, lost possession and clattered the County player. Hibs have no complaints with that decision and NL said as much after the game....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Looked like Efe took a heavy touch, lost possession and clattered the County player. Hibs have no complaints with that decision and NL said as much after the game....
    The key part of that sentence is 'Looked like...' From the camera angle, and the view from most of the spectators in the stadium, it is impossible to tell if there was contact or not. If there was contact before Efe got to the ball then it is a stonewaller. I don't think Clancy knew if it was a pen given the delay in awarding it. Presumably it was the lino who flagged, who in fairness, probably had the best angle.

    On Clancy he has been involved in quite a few controversial decisions now which have gone against Hibs. The non-pen v Rangers at ER being a total shocker. For me, his body language when he refs against us is telling - he seems to take great delight in awarding decisions against us. I think he's got it in for us for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes View Post
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    The key part of that sentence is 'Looked like...' From the camera angle, and the view from most of the spectators in the stadium, it is impossible to tell if there was contact or not. If there was contact before Efe got to the ball then it is a stonewaller. I don't think Clancy knew if it was a pen given the delay in awarding it. Presumably it was the lino who flagged, who in fairness, probably had the best angle.

    On Clancy he has been involved in quite a few controversial decisions now which have gone against Hibs. The non-pen v Rangers at ER being a total shocker. For me, his body language when he refs against us is telling - he seems to take great delight in awarding decisions against us. I think he's got it in for us for some reason.
    This is correct. I know him and he told me so.

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    Its cheating, you cannot get as many easy decisions with big consequences, wrong as often as some of them do, they are part of whats wrong with our game, because there are teams who play anti football by persistently fouling, at times viciously taking the footballers out, stopping the flow and flair of players at times, mostly when teams are attacking, in both types of examples it reduces the amount of excitement !! ...the real problem is that the governing body, is spineless and they are accountable to no one.

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    Its cheating, you cannot get as many easy decisions with big consequences, wrong as often as some of them do, they are part of whats wrong with our game, because there are teams who play anti football by persistently fouling, at times viciously taking the footballers out, stopping the flow and flair of players at times, mostly when teams are attacking, in both types of examples it reduces the amount of excitement !! ...the real problem is that the governing body, is spineless and they are accountable to no one.
    Totally agree, can’t blame incompetance all the time, just not possible to get so many things wrong or just overlooked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    Totally agree, can’t blame incompetance all the time, just not possible to get so many things wrong or just overlooked
    Agree as well. The laws of the game get muddied too much in the culture of the Scottish game. There are clubs who are trying be progressive and there others, along with the governing bodies, who are happy for the sport to remain agricultural. I don't mind games with a bit needle and the odd ding-dong but some fixtures are almost always as ugly sin. I'd start by drug-testing everyone who sits on the SFA, particularly for posh - start a cull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmodcons View Post
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    This is correct. I know him and he told me so.
    Didn't see the incident at the game. For the people around me it was fifty fifty between those who thought it was a pen and those who thought nothing happened. Having seen it it's a stonewaller.

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    I might be old school but played football for over thirty years -good bad or indifferent once ref has made his decision he is never gonna change his mind just accept it and get on with it.Same for all teams -breaks should hopefully break even over the season. There must be a case for 100% professional referees for the top tier in Scotland and the introduction of goal line technology if a ball crosses the line a buzzer goes off in refs ear.It pains me to say it but the Huns scored a good goal at Killie that was played on as if it was a kick about in a public park....and as for their pitch......???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    I might be old school but played football for over thirty years -good bad or indifferent once ref has made his decision he is never gonna change his mind just accept it and get on with it.Same for all teams -breaks should hopefully break even over the season. There must be a case for 100% professional referees for the top tier in Scotland and the introduction of goal line technology if a ball crosses the line a buzzer goes off in refs ear.It pains me to say it but the Huns scored a good goal at Killie that was played on as if it was a kick about in a public park....and as for their pitch......???
    Nobody in their right mind would turn professional referee for the wages that are paid. I'm not sure about the current group, but historically it was necessary to take lots of time off work to get to the top which meant they were typically white collar doctors accountants etc. To give that up for refereeing knowing that you will be finished at fifty is a lot to ask. And they will still make mistakes even if they are professional - look at the EPL......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Nobody in their right mind would turn professional referee for the wages that are paid. I'm not sure about the current group, but historically it was necessary to take lots of time off work to get to the top which meant they were typically white collar doctors accountants etc. To give that up for refereeing knowing that you will be finished at fifty is a lot to ask. And they will still make mistakes even if they are professional - look at the EPL......
    Agree! Thankless task. Throughout history there have always been refs that have had it in for HIBS Bobby Davidson and Craig Thomson spring to mind and now Clancy seems to have a hidden agenda against Lenny especially perhaps they need help from the powers that be as I have already referred to goal line technology . There is also VAR but these innovations need money. I thought I read somewhere about a new TV deal being up for grabs in the Scottish game that might inject much needed funds that might help in this regard?

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    Bloody tragedy we've missed last Sunday's Scottish YouTubers charity game v. Stenny, in aid of the Scottish Association for Mental Health. (You can still donate to that on various Just Giving pages put up by the likes of Batchy.)
    This thread should have been a great fundraiser for it.
    Shows the scale of the work that needs done in that field.
    Maybe admins could merge this with the mental health thread on The Holy Ground board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricStoner View Post
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    Bloody tragedy we've missed last Sunday's Scottish YouTubers charity game v. Stenny, in aid of the Scottish Association for Mental Health. (You can still donate to that on various Just Giving pages put up by the likes of Batchy.)
    This thread should have been a great fundraiser for it.
    Shows the scale of the work that needs done in that field.
    Maybe admins could merge this with the mental health thread on The Holy Ground board.

    This thread deserves to get to 10 pages, minimum. If we could cross-dress it with flags, referendums, bed wetting and loyalty schemes it could run forever.

    In other news I feel that football matches without referees would, much like road junctions with non-functioning traffic lights, be much more satisfying and efficient spectacles. Just saying.

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    All you need to know about whether refereeing in Scotland doesnt have its issues was that the first Edinburgh based ref to get the Scottish cup final was after the competition had been running for 100 years. Sounds fair.

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