Kevin Clancy

[Jones28]

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Ah, the old ‘end of’ usage. I’ve had my say, I’m correct and there’s no point in discussing the issue any further. The phrase gets on my mammeries. By the way, why describe the paranoia as Celtic-esque, when Sevco-esque, is more appropriate?

Well what proof is there that referees are corrupt rather than inept?

[Jim44]

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Well what proof is there that referees are corrupt rather than inept?

I’ve no tangible proof that they are corrupt but I don’t think you’ve got any more tangible proof that it’s all down to ineptitude. Clancy displayed the behaviour of someone who had made a firm decision about the offence, just as the vast majority of Hibs supporters and possibly RC supporters had, ( I don't doubt for a second that it was a yellow card), he more or less showed his thoughts by running to the player fingering his card but for some unknown reason ( I choose to believe it was for suspicious reasons) changed his mind.

[SRHibs]

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It isn't the mere existence of threads like this that are so amusing - or so disturbing, depending on one's view.
The disturbing thing is the unshakable conviction of most posters that the identical threads on Kerrydale Street and (especially) Follow Follow are composed for totally different reasons, by people who are nothing like us
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This is hilariously true. There’s been numerous occasions on which I’ve seen threads like this on both ours and our opposition’s pages simultaneously.

For people who think the refs are against us: what makes us right, and the Aberdeen fans (for example) wrong?

As a few have said, they’re just incompetent.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Kevin Clancy. ****o.

[Jones28]

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I’ve no tangible proof that they are corrupt but I don’t think you’ve got any more tangible proof that it’s all down to ineptitude. Clancy displayed the behaviour of someone who had made a firm decision about the offence, just as the vast majority of Hibs supporters and possibly RC supporters had, ( I don't doubt for a second that it was a yellow card), he more or less showed his thoughts by running to the player fingering his card but for some unknown reason ( I choose to believe it was for suspicious reasons) changed his mind.

Jim that just sounds delusional. Read it again.

Innocent until proven guilty surely? He made a poor decision by not sending off the RC player, he should have walked, but to suggest he changed his mind because of corrupt or suspicious reasons is mental.

[SunshineOnLeith]

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I’ve no tangible proof that they are corrupt but I don’t think you’ve got any more tangible proof that it’s all down to ineptitude. Clancy displayed the behaviour of someone who had made a firm decision about the offence, just as the vast majority of Hibs supporters and possibly RC supporters had, ( I don't doubt for a second that it was a yellow card), he more or less showed his thoughts by running to the player fingering his card but for some unknown reason ( I choose to believe it was for suspicious reasons) changed his mind.

It's a conspiracy.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

It comes down to accountability and reasoning

If Clancy was held accountable for his decisions and could justify not producing a second yellow or red card then I’d be interested to read that report

But until this is enforced fans like us will continue the cheat/incompetence debate most weekends

[givescotlandfreedom]

The man is horrendous. Misses a stonewall handball and penalty against the huns last season, gives a farcical penalty for handball away to killie and totally seizes the moment to give another penalty against us for handball. He must just make the rules up as he goes along.

[Smartie]

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The man is horrendous. Misses a stonewall handball and penalty against the huns last season, gives a farcical penalty for handball away to killie and totally seizes the moment to give another penalty against us for handball. He must just make the rules up as he goes along.

To be fair to him, I don't think he was going to give the penalty until it was confirmed by the linesman.

The red card decisions were the ones I took issue with, as well as silly stuff like the Oli Shaw shot that was clearly deflected for a corner.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

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wtf

Dystonian realism

[Bostonhibby]

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It isn't the mere existence of threads like this that are so amusing - or so disturbing, depending on one's view.
The disturbing thing is the unshakable conviction of most posters that the identical threads on Kerrydale Street and (especially) Follow Follow are composed for totally different reasons, by people who are nothing like us.
This half-trouser-legged, sash-wearing, Tory-voting recipient of brown envelopes from Gorgie & Govan would be the same guy who works as a teacher at a Kafflik school and who has a lengthy rap sheet of other "serious charges" directed at him by Rangers Media, Follow Follow and even the home for the housetrained Hun called GersNet, would it?
Threads like this are significantly less tiresome than similar rants by managers - who at least heed the advice that calling a referee "a cheat" is injudicious - but they are tediously predictable nonetheless.
As I said on the match thread, it's time a referee began litigation on stuff like this. In fact, the referees' association should pick a case, select its target and liquidate it. I hope the target won't be this site but, in my apparently incorrect view, there's no reason it couldn't be this site.

Probably end up serving proceedings on an imaginary figure like Sydney hibby, late of this parish.

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[SRHibs]

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wtf

There’s a noticeable irony in people acting like EricStoner has lost the plot while they’re also claiming Hibs are being victimised by Scottish referees.

He’s making a fair point in a bit of an unconventional manner.

[Tornadoes70]

The standard of refereeing in Scotland is generally of poor quality. Clancy's just one of a number of refs here that's guilty of poor decision making and will probably enrage fans of most clubs because of it.

[lord bunberry]

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It isn't the mere existence of threads like this that are so amusing - or so disturbing, depending on one's view.
The disturbing thing is the unshakable conviction of most posters that the identical threads on Kerrydale Street and (especially) Follow Follow are composed for totally different reasons, by people who are nothing like us.
This half-trouser-legged, sash-wearing, Tory-voting recipient of brown envelopes from Gorgie & Govan would be the same guy who works as a teacher at a Kafflik school and who has a lengthy rap sheet of other "serious charges" directed at him by Rangers Media, Follow Follow and even the home for the housetrained Hun called GersNet, would it?
Threads like this are significantly less tiresome than similar rants by managers - who at least heed the advice that calling a referee "a cheat" is injudicious - but they are tediously predictable nonetheless.
As I said on the match thread, it's time a referee began litigation on stuff like this. In fact, the referees' association should pick a case, select its target and liquidate it. I hope the target won't be this site but, in my apparently incorrect view, there's no reason it couldn't be this site.

That may well be the biggest load of pish I’ve ever read on here.

[we are hibs]

Why aren't referees asked to publicly explain their decisions? If you made as much of an arse of something at work like some refs do you would be almost certainly asked to explain what's going on

[CropleyWasGod]

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Why aren't referees asked to publicly explain their decisions? If you made as much of an arse of something at work like some refs do you would be almost certainly asked to explain what's going on

To your boss, but not your customers.

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[Jim44]

For the avoidance of doubt, my ‘paranoia’ doesn’t only stop at refereeing biased decisions involving Hibs. It’s a wider football phenomenon ........ and don’t get me started on Eurovision song contest rigged voting .......

[Phil MaGlass]

Mibbe you have to stop sniffing the toner Eriks

[Onion]

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Why aren't referees asked to publicly explain their decisions? If you made as much of an arse of something at work like some refs do you would be almost certainly asked to explain what's going on

The old adage better that folk think you’re fool than open your mouth and prove it.

[PatHead]

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For the avoidance of doubt, my ‘paranoia’ doesn’t only stop at refereeing biased decisions involving Hibs. It’s a wider football phenomenon ........ and don’t get me started on Eurovision song contest rigged voting .......

With you on the Eurovision without doubt. In all seriousness it was noticeable that no UK referees were at the World Cup finals. I can never remember that before.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

We are all EricStoner

[One Day Soon]

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We are all EricStoner

Wait, are you suggesting he carries around a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Wait, are you suggesting he carries around a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire?

I do that most days. Mind you, I live in Ormiston.

[One Day Soon]

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I do that most days. Mind you, I live in Ormiston.

Oh right, well tbf you do have to deal with actual zombies then.

[Hermit Crab]

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I do that most days. Mind you, I live in Ormiston.

Is that not a picturesque, quiet sleepy little East Lothian village?

[NAE NOOKIE]

I don't buy the corruption theories to be honest, but refs are human beings and its far from impossible that one could make decisions based on dislike of an opposition team and especially manager … its looking more and more like Clancy falls into that category when it comes to Hibs and especially Neil Lennon.

Penalty decision and failing to send off the Ross County number 6 … which he clearly should have … notwithstanding, both he and the East stand linesman missed a clear Hibs corner when an Oli Shaw effort from the edge of the box clearly took a deflection off a defenders attempt to block it … the linesman had a clear view and I cant believe he didn't see it.

[JimBHibees]

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I don't buy the corruption theories to be honest, but refs are human beings and its far from impossible that one could make decisions based on dislike of an opposition team and especially manager … its looking more and more like Clancy falls into that category when it comes to Hibs and especially Neil Lennon.

Penalty decision and failing to send off the Ross County number 6 … which he clearly should have … notwithstanding, both he and the East stand linesman missed a clear Hibs corner when an Oli Shaw effort from the edge of the box clearly took a deflection off a defenders attempt to block it … the linesman had a clear view and I cant believe he didn't see it.

Got to be said on seeing the goal highlights the penalty decision was spot on.

[PeeKay]

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Got to be said on seeing the goal highlights the penalty decision was spot on.

Agreed. Stonewall penalty, but the word is that it was the linesman that spotted it - so Clancy can't even claim to have got that right.

[we are hibs]

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To your boss, but not your customers.

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If it wasnt for his "customers" he wouldn't have that job. Don't think it's asking a lot considering some of the scandalous decisions we regularly see in Scottish football.

[basehibby]

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Don't think he cheats, he has an issue with us and basically whenever a 50/50 decision is required he chooses the decision against us. The second yellow both times, the penalty all 50/50 which could go either way and if in doubt as in a clear corner he elects to choose the option that goes against us!

The penalty was not 50/50 - it was stonewall.

That said he does seem to make consistently pish decisions against Hibs - the change of mind about a second yellow being a case in point.

Re Scottish refs in general I think they have a tendency to let niggly fouls slip and to be slow to reach for the cards. Though you could argue this was "letting the game flow" or that "it's a man's game", in reality it benefits hammer-throwing sides like Hearts while penalising teams that try to play football. All in all a tendency which is bad for Scottish football IMO.