Matt Doherty

[calumhibee1]

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This thread is like stumbling onto Twitter. Horrific. Folk with no sense of proportion wishing ill health or injury on someone for something they said in the heat of the moment, six years ago, as a teenager.

Yup. Poor patter.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

The Villa fans must be thinking we’ve a split personality element amongst us...

[ac1]

That period was one of the worst times to be a Hibs fan. Hearts spending money they 'would just pay back to themselves' under Romanov and lording it over us playing with tons of players shipped in on loan who genuinely did not give a **** about the club or the fans.

The thing with Doherty is he was just young and stupid enough to come out with what they were all feeling in the dressing room but it summed him up. He should have known how hurt the fans would be losing to Hearts like that in a cup final that we had not won in over a hundred years even if he was only 19 at the time.

[Hermit Crab]

Lock thread?

[Smartie]

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The Villa fans must be thinking we’ve a split personality element amongst us...

Alex Cropley, Des Bremner, John McGinn and now an irrational and way over the top dislike of a Wolves player.

I bet they think we're cool as...

[Tomsk]

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Lock thread?

Why? For people expressing an opinion?

[overdrive]

I thought he was a decent player but at the time, I much preferred Francombe. Obviously Doherty has gone on to have a much better career than Francombe so in hindsight I was wrong on that one.

He was a welt after that cup final. IIRC he didn’t get off to a great start either. I remember an interview he did with Hibs TV on the night he signed. Had a face like thunder as if he’d been forced to go on loan against his will and kept referring to us as Hearts.

[Hermit Crab]

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Why? For people expressing an opinion?

Wishing ill health, serious injury or death is ok?

[Smartie]

I just saw the highlights on Goals on Sunday. My thoughts -

The goal was hilarious and I cheered big time when it went in.

The tackle by Vardy was horrendous, and Doherty was lucky not to be very seriously injured. I got no pleasure from seeing that whatsoever.

You're looking at an expensively put together Wolves side, and Doherty's holding his own amongst some major signings at the top level. Fair play to the boy for carving out a very good career for himself.

I used to go for all of the "Doherty is this, Doherty is that" chat, until I sat and watched the video of what he actually said on the video, which was fairly innocuous (certainly compared the the s******ing and chuckling of O'Connor, Murray and the like). A few silly comments on twitter as a teenager whilst being subjected to a tirade of abuse by thousands of people who were clearly hurting.

He was poor on that day (as were many others) but he was a decent player for us who didn't lack commitment. It it wasn't for the likes of him, we may well have been relegated that year.

We need to let this go.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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The Villa fans must be thinking we’ve a split personality element amongst us...

Nah they will probably be warming to us more, they hate Wolves

[Tomsk]

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Wishing ill health, serious injury or death is ok?

I don't agree with those on views, although I think they're more like to be stated for effect rather than genuinely held beliefs. Also, I don't recall anyone wishing actual death.

But these are opinions. Unsavoury, silly and not thought through -- in my opinion -- but opinions nonetheless.

Just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean they should be closed down.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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I thought he was a decent player but at the time, I much preferred Francombe. Obviously Doherty has gone on to have a much better career than Francombe so in hindsight I was wrong on that one.

He was a welt after that cup final. IIRC he didn’t get off to a great start either. I remember an interview he did with Hibs TV on the night he signed. Had a face like thunder as if he’d been forced to go on loan against his will and kept referring to us as Hearts.

I remember saying at half time that Francombe should be brought on for Kujabi as he was on a booking and was up against that diver Suso. 90 seconds into the second half and, well the rest is history.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Wishing ill health, serious injury or death is ok?

Death?? Who has wished that on him?

[Hermit Crab]

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Death?? Who has wished that on him?

Wishing serious ill health on someone, could that be conceived to be fatal illnesses?

[heidtheba]

Couldn't stand him after his comments on that final. Hated him.
But then, after seeing some of the comments on this thread, no, I didn't 'hate' him. He was a footballer who didn't want to lose a match, lost a match and then, at the age of 19 made some comments on TV and on Twitter which weren't brilliantly well thought out.
Yes it was a big match. Yes it hurt (until 2016) and yes it didn't reflect well on him. But to wish him injury? No, that's not what I'd want at all.

[lyonhibs]

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Wishing serious ill health on someone, could that be conceived to be fatal illnesses?

Only if you're prone to melodrama.

***** patter nonetheless of course

[kaimendhibs]

I started this thread. Didn't wish him harm or death or anything like that. Just delighted he scored an own goal.

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[Hibbyradge]

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He also posted on Twitter the day after that cup final he was going up town for shopping.

Shocking.

[cleanyman]

Fair play to Doherty.

After 2012 he's went on and had a great career. Doubt Hibs nor the fans bile will even bother him now.

[Wilson]

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Fair play to Doherty.

After 2012 he's went on and had a great career. Doubt Hibs nor the fans bile will even bother him now.

You'll have to enlighten me. I read his wiki page and his career doesn't look that great. Especially for a guy so arrogant.

Average career shall we say?

[Smartie]

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You'll have to enlighten me. I read his wiki page and his career doesn't look that great. Especially for a guy so arrogant.

Average career shall we say?

Yesterday he was halved by an England international in a game against a team who won the league a few years ago in England's top flight, one of the strongest leagues in Europe.

How have the respective careers of Roy O'Donovan, Isiah Osbourne, Pa Kujabi, Tom Soares, Garry O'Connor and Mark Brown gone since that fateful day?

He's done ok.

[Wilson]

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Yesterday he was halved by an England international in a game against a team who won the league a few years ago in England's top flight, one of the strongest leagues in Europe.

How have the respective careers of Roy O'Donovan, Isiah Osbourne, Pa Kujabi, Tom Soares, Garry O'Connor and Mark Brown gone since that fateful day?

He's done ok.

Getting halved by someone who has had a great career isn't the same as having a great career.

If you spin it enough he has done okay. He has never been as big a superstar as he seemed to think he was.

Still. Better than Kujabi will do him as an epitaph.

[Smartie]

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Getting halved by someone who has had a great career isn't the same as having a great career.

If you spin it enough he has done okay. He has never been as big a superstar as he seemed to think he was.

Still. Better than Kujabi will do him as an epitaph.

How many players to have played for Hibs within the last 5-10 years will play in the English Premier League?

How many will hold their own in a big spending Premier League side?

How many will be first team regulars in the Championship for several years and eventually win that league?

Relatively speaking, that should now be considered to be a bit of an achievement and a good career, sadly.

[FilipinoHibs]

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Lewy never left his house for days after that final mate, Doherty was out on the ran dan hours after - Doherty couldn't lace wee Lewy's boots even if he was allowed to. How he's made it in the game is a mystery but more to do with circumstance and the money down there - him and GOC after the final were an absolute disgrace - hence I've not got one iota of time for O'Connor either

So glad won the cup later and became our only double winner in history and his Scottish caps. He has gained a yard of pace and great delivery. Only 5 foot 7 but a tenacious battler. When saw him as a young player he reminded me of the Tornadoes.

[Paisley Hibby]

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Matt Doherty is one of the few people I genuinely wish ill health and injuries on, absolute disgrace of a player and human being

That's a seriously scary viewpoint mate - and even scarier is that it seems there are a few other people you wish the same for. If you get that worked up about football I dread to think what you're like about things that really matter in life.

[lyonhibs]

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You'll have to enlighten me. I read his wiki page and his career doesn't look that great. Especially for a guy so arrogant.

Average career shall we say?

He's loved at Wolves and a regular in a team that invested heavily over the summer, now playing in the EPL. "Great" is maybe pushing it in one direction, but so is "average" in the other.

Long may he continue to score comedy ogs though.

[Allant1981]

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Matt Doherty is one of the few people I genuinely wish ill health and injuries on, absolute disgrace of a player and human being

appropriate username

[Beefster]

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Shocking.

It is shocking. I had a cooked breakfast and a w*** the morning after that cup final. I didn’t feel the need to announce it on Twitter like that tosspot, Doherty, though.

[WestStandWillie]

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Matt Doherty is one of the few people I genuinely wish ill health and injuries on, absolute disgrace of a player and human being

Spot on.

[JimBHibees]

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I just saw the highlights on Goals on Sunday. My thoughts -

The goal was hilarious and I cheered big time when it went in.

The tackle by Vardy was horrendous, and Doherty was lucky not to be very seriously injured. I got no pleasure from seeing that whatsoever.

You're looking at an expensively put together Wolves side, and Doherty's holding his own amongst some major signings at the top level. Fair play to the boy for carving out a very good career for himself.

I used to go for all of the "Doherty is this, Doherty is that" chat, until I sat and watched the video of what he actually said on the video, which was fairly innocuous (certainly compared the the s******ing and chuckling of O'Connor, Murray and the like). A few silly comments on twitter as a teenager whilst being subjected to a tirade of abuse by thousands of people who were clearly hurting.

He was poor on that day (as were many others) but he was a decent player for us who didn't lack commitment. It it wasn't for the likes of him, we may well have been relegated that year.

We need to let this go.

Totally agree with that. His attitude probably reflected the shambles the club was at that time. Were the players not arguing over (win bonuses - no s******ing at the back) the day before the game.