CANCELLED - SS Relocation On Sunday

[Oscar T Grouch]

This sounds like a job for a person like a supporters liaison officer or a fan rep. If only we had something like that in place 🤔
I’m actually on the clubs side here atm but I do think they should be taking the lead to sort this problem out because it’s not going to go away and it will cause friction if it’s not sorted. Where the singing section is is not ideal but the ideal place is occupied, however sparcly with youngsters

[mentalhibee]

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Regrettably Hibs have decided to block our move to the FF Lower on Sunday despite 90% of this section being unsold and the overwhelming majority of the Hibs support wanting to see this trialed. This included a threat to move any individuals who entered this area - although unsure how they’d identify non-regulars.

Tickets have been cancelled and refunded.

This match presented a great opportunity to trial something different after the club blocked a relocation of season tickets at the beginning of the year.

Despite numerous efforts to meet with the club, we’re no further forward. Hence trying to self organise ourselves, appreciating the club are extremely busy at the moment with European activity.

This feels like a blatant attempt now to keep a specific group of supporters tucked away in the far corner of ER, blocking their freedom and right to buy any unsold seat across the four stands.

We apologise to any supporter who purchased a ticket in Section 18 last night. Hibs have offered to refund these.

We’ll now pause for breath and reevaluate our options.

Thanks for your continued support

Since 1875

Poor show from Hibs, I’d like to see the signing section moved back to the east as the atmosphere hasn’t been the same since the move.

[Since90+2]

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If they had bought tickets at the back of that section whose view would it have impeded then ? ...I would like to hear Hibs view on the singing section and their relevance/importance to the club and atmosphere generated.
Also if they are going to work on some plan with regarda to properly manage the FFLower in terms of the amount child seasons bought for that area and frequently just not used ..are they monitoring the non use and what seats are being put back in for re-distribution when not in use ? And are the prices just too cheap and subsequently too attractive for people not too buy on thebasis they might only be used 2,3 times a season ?
whatever the position, its an ongoing issue in numerous threads and conversation but also in reality for us moving forward as a club.

I said it previously but £25 is just too cheap IMO. By all means encourage families to attend with lower prices but it looks as though these seats are being bought just incase a child ever wants to attend and at 25 quid it's a tiny outlay, if they were £60 or £70 (which is still great value) it might stop people buying them and hardly ever used.

[jgl07]

It's hardly surprising that the move was blocked.

It is a weekend match and in the Family Section.

We used to have five tickets on the back row of that area with three children (initially) aged 8, 13 and 15. You can imagine we would have been delighted if a group set up in front of us standing throughout.

It all seemed like a very crass move in the first place to announce this without consulting the club.

[lord bunberry]

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It's hardly surprising that the move was blocked.

It is a weekend match and in the Family Section.

We used to have five tickets on the back row of that area with three children (initially) aged 8, 13 and 15. You can imagine we would have been delighted if a group set up in front of us standing throughout.

It all seemed like a very crass move in the first place to announce this without consulting the club.

They tried and the club didn’t respond. This was a trial for one game in a stand that at the very best would be half full. I’m sure there would be plenty empty seats for people to move to if their view was restricted.

[marinello59]

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This sounds like a job for a person like a supporters liaison officer or a fan rep. If only we had something like that in place 🤔
I’m actually on the clubs side here atm but I do think they should be taking the lead to sort this problem out because it’s not going to go away and it will cause friction if it’s not sorted. Where the singing section is is not ideal but the ideal place is occupied, however sparcly with youngsters

To be fair to the club they moved long standing season ticket holders out of the section currently occupied by the singing section , made provision for the drummer and banners and gave or did give them special priority for away games so they have made a lot of effort already. . Hopefully after further discussion both sides can come to some sort of compromise here.

[Kaff]

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They tried and the club didn’t respond. This was a trial for one game in a stand that at the very best would be half full. I’m sure there would be plenty empty seats for people to move to if their view was restricted.

My assumption is that they've tried to speak to the club retrospectively?
It seemed to me they put a call out to buy seats behind the goal and after the club blocked the move they have since tried to start dialogue.
If that is correct then I feel the supporters were initially wrong and my earlier point about their view on being moved by the club without notice stands.
I would say that the club should be speaking to them now they have refused this move and i imagine that will happen and hopefully as soon as they can. Perhaps waiting on direction from higher up the club than fans liason officer?

[lord bunberry]

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My assumption is that they've tried to speak to the club retrospectively?
It seemed to me they put a call out to buy seats behind the goal and after the club blocked the move they have since tried to start dialogue.
If that is correct then I feel the supporters were initially wrong and my earlier point about their view on being moved by the club without notice stands.
I would say that the club should be speaking to them now they have refused this move and i imagine that will happen and hopefully as soon as they can. Perhaps waiting on direction from higher up the club than fans liason officer?

That’s not my interpretation of things. It sounded to me like they had tried to speak to the club, didn’t get a response so took matters into their own hands. I could be wrong though.

[Kaff]

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That’s not my interpretation of things. It sounded to me like they had tried to speak to the club, didn’t get a response so took matters into their own hands. I could be wrong though.

Ok, my view is the opposite but won't know unless someone states categorically of course.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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They tried and the club didn’t respond. This was a trial for one game in a stand that at the very best would be half full. I’m sure there would be plenty empty seats for people to move to if their view was restricted.

no surprise there

[Hibby70]

Doesn't seem that either side have gone about this correctly as far as I can see.

[PatHead]

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Yep, if Since1875 can’t get correspondence from the club after numerous tries then surely the reps exist to bridge the gap. They don’t exactly seem like a proactive pair though.

Have 1875 tried to contact the reps?

[Kaff]

'We have simply purchased available tickets in this section thos evening and encourage other likeminded fans to do the same. We’ve done this off our own accord. We reguarly engage with the club on a number of matters'

The above is quoted from a reply made by Since1875' to Hibbyradge asking if they had contacted the club.
Edit. On the original thread

I'm not against their plan but just don't want the club to be dragged into a situation where they are cast as the villains due to a breakdown in communication not of their making.
Time for some folk to cool their heels imo

[BroxburnHibee]

I really think your group made an own goal by moving up there.

I think they were uncomfortable when you based yourself in the east due to everyone standing refusing to sit. Not sure if that still happens in the east though.

I dont get to a lot of games but the 2 ive been to so far this season it seems as if there is still plenty singers in the east probably because that area of the ground is where traditionally the atmosphere has been created.

I commend everyone involved for their efforts and hope you continue to do a lot of great work.

I do feel though now the club know who you all are and have you were they want you then they will do their best to keep you there.

If you all decided to just buy season tickets back in the east would they block that too? I suspect they would.

[j'adore hibs]

Whilst I agree the singing section need to be positioned somewhere with greater visibility and impact this needs to be facilitated properly between the club, the fans in FF lower and the singing section.
I have been in the FF lower since they introduced the family section taking advantage of what were originally £0 tickets to £25 tickets for my kids. Im now only paying one child price with the other having moved to a youth .
We have central seats with no obstruction from the goal bar , why would we want to move to a less superior view ? Also with more and more season ticket holders I cant see how they club can accommodate moving individuals, even those who are no longer entitled to child/youth tickets .
Lets face it, the remaining seats free for a season ticket aren't the best.

[PatHead]

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That’s not my interpretation of things. It sounded to me like they had tried to speak to the club, didn’t get a response so took matters into their own hands. I could be wrong though.

Think you were a bit unfair on the club earlier then. You stated that they had tried to speak to the club, but you obviously didn't know.

Maybe we should wait until things are clarified before we start blaming people.

[Bobby's Cinema]

So the club are looking after families with young kids over the section that will come standing obstructing the view of those that aren’t interested. Openly couldn’t care less in fact bragged that their recent actions resulted in the club in trouble with UEFA despite warnings before hand. I’m shocked.

[007]

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Regrettably Hibs have decided to block our move to the FF Lower on Sunday despite 90% of this section being unsold and the overwhelming majority of the Hibs support wanting to see this trialed. This included a threat to move any individuals who entered this area - although unsure how they’d identify non-regulars.

Tickets have been cancelled and refunded.

This match presented a great opportunity to trial something different after the club blocked a relocation of season tickets at the beginning of the year.

Despite numerous efforts to meet with the club, we’re no further forward. Hence trying to self organise ourselves, appreciating the club are extremely busy at the moment with European activity.

This feels like a blatant attempt now to keep a specific group of supporters tucked away in the far corner of ER, blocking their freedom and right to buy any unsold seat across the four stands.

We apologise to any supporter who purchased a ticket in Section 18 last night. Hibs have offered to refund these.

We’ll now pause for breath and reevaluate our options.

Thanks for your continued support

Since 1875

Just mentioned on the other thread, what about trying section 43?

[SaulGoodman]

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So the club are looking after families with young kids over the section that will come standing obstructing the view of those that aren’t interested. Openly couldn’t care less in fact bragged that their recent actions resulted in the club in trouble with UEFA despite warnings before hand. I’m shocked.

Oh boy this is gonna be good..

[WhileTheChief..]

Blame all the folk taking advantage of the £25 tickets.

Sooner they are scrapped the better for loads of reasons.

[StevieT]

I agree with the club here. If I sat in the FF lower (I sit in the upper) I wouldn’t want a group of people taking it upon themselves to stand in front of me and waive the big flags. As for those suggesting people could move, really? In my opinion, the SS were taking this opportunity to say ‘look at us. How good would it be if we were here every game?’ I think the club has done the right thing here

[Kaff]

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Blame all the folk taking advantage of the £25 tickets.

Sooner they are scrapped the better for loads of reasons.

Classic WUM, not helping with the discussion in hand of course

[Chuck Rhoades]

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So the club are looking after families with young kids over the section that will come standing obstructing the view of those that aren’t interested. Openly couldn’t care less in fact bragged that their recent actions resulted in the club in trouble with UEFA despite warnings before hand. I’m shocked.

Fraz, I think we know each other and if so your post is rubbish. The group were at the front at Greece and Hibs confirmed they know who through the flare and ruled the group out. Stick to facts please.

[Keith_M]

That's really poor from the club.

I can't see any good reason why they'd do that.

[WhileTheChief..]

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Classic WUM, not helping with the discussion in hand of course

Eh? Not at all.

Way too many folk take advantage of it hence the empty seats.

[Hibs90]

Piss poor.

[Bishop Hibee]

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I said it previously but £25 is just too cheap IMO. By all means encourage families to attend with lower prices but it looks as though these seats are being bought just incase a child ever wants to attend and at 25 quid it's a tiny outlay, if they were £60 or £70 (which is still great value) it might stop people buying them and hardly ever used.

Agree 100%.

As for moving the singing section, won’t happen until we have a downturn in form again and ST sales go down.

[BegbieHSC]

Motion:

Can we PLEASE stop calling the Singing Section the SS? 😂😂😂

[CapitalGreen]

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Motion:

Can we PLEASE stop calling the Singing Section the SS? 😂😂😂

Nein

[KWJ]

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That did not happen though, and there will be people in that section who will not be able to see the game because of folk standing up. There's no getting away from this, and as much as i think this is exactly the place the singing section should be, it needs to be done properly with proper dialogue between both sides and probably the fans reps involved too.

Exactly. Saw this coming from the original post stating the intention to move where it said the club hadn't been consulted.

I get that it's got to be frustrating not to have communication from the club but short notice mass changes like this won't help the situation. Be persistent in looking to meet with them for changes

I'd hazard a guess that thebanner at the Rangers game won't have helped your cause.

Tend to agree though, it'd be the best spot.