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15-08-2018 01:30 PM #121
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15-08-2018 01:38 PM #122
IMO Hibs reluctance bordering on stubbornness to address this situation is doing the club no favours whatsoever. No matter where they have been or where they are now the bottom line is that the singing section, the ultras, Since 1875, whatever you want to call them should be located in the FF lower and that whole section of the stadium should be given over to them. This area should be a showpiece for what watching football at ER is all about and projecting ER as a noisy colourful place to watch football.
Its exactly that image which encourages many undecided youngsters to choose one club over another, and the rise in 'fan culture' surrounding Hibs over the last few years is a very big factor as to why there is at least anecdotal evidence that currently more youngsters are choosing to support us over Hearts. Its a vital cog in the machinery of growing the club, especially in the face of competition from across the city and we ignore it at our peril. That's why far from trotting out reasons for why the singing section shouldn't be located in the FF lower Hibs should be busting a gut to make it happen.
I tell you right now that if I was the owner of Hearts I would very much be looking at this situation with interest, to the point where I would have pencil and back of fag packet in hand drawing up plans to rip the seats out of the Gorgie stand and replace them with rail seats as soon as possible. The importance of fan culture and experience in drawing support to your club might ( thankfully ) be lost on an auld sweetie wife like Mrs Budge, but she wont be there forever and the time for Hibs to strike is now on what is a far more important factor in winning young hearts and minds than we appear to realise.
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15-08-2018 01:41 PM #123
Hopefully this gets resolved.
Personally I thought it was a reasonable thing to try but with 13.5k seasons sold I can see why the club may not see it as the way forward.
One thing that seems to be missed (and happy to be corrected) but Since1875 are a bit more than a singing section.
I thought they raised cash for the displays last year and coordinated their set up.
Iconic banners from recent years; Time for heroes, Natural Order? (others also have done banners)
Corteos? Marches to the ground.
They are not the whole support but have done lots that have given the club some iconic moments. Hopefully that gives them something in the credit tin.
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15-08-2018 01:49 PM #124
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Noise waves travel omnidirectional - i.e. travel in all directions. When these waves hit an object, for example the back, side or roof of a stand, they are reflected off that object. It is likely that noise from the bottom of the FFL stand will travel upwards and not be reflected towards the rest of the stadium (in addition to that which naturally is transmitted towards the rest of the stadium). Whereas similar noise transmitted from the FFU stand is more likely to be transmitted towards the rest of the stadium (it hits the stadium roof and is reflected downwards towards the rest of the stadium.
Now, I'm no expert, but that's what I've always understood.
One point maybe missed in all of this interesting discussion is the type of songs sung by the Singing Section. The Kamberi song, whilst brilliant does not have the basic football fan chant that is loud and get's everyone singing. You could say the same about Boyle's Starman and others. When the fans of the bigots sing "Hello, Hello" the basic chant/noise is much more intense than the Kamberi song. The "We are Hibernian FC" is a much more powerfully sung song. As is "We've got McGinn" and "Allez.......", whilst I would state that "Hibs, Hibs........" is more neutral. So back to my point, the Singing Section might be jumping about singing "Kamberi, Kamberi etc", but no-one in the East can hear it because it doesn't have that powerful lyrics.
All IMO
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15-08-2018 01:50 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
2,000 seats for about 100 Fans?
Yeah, great idea.
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15-08-2018 02:07 PM #127
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And besides, there's already a good 200-250 in the current singing section block, and that's with them being allocated in the worst part of the ground to create an atmosphere. Hopefully moving them into a much more desirable slot would have the intended effect of drawing more people to join them.
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15-08-2018 02:10 PM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Those STH were put out by the club, not the SS.
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15-08-2018 02:13 PM #130
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Have to say this is what really gets me with situation. The club was in a position on Monday where for example 100 folk visiting Edinburgh for the fringe or a stag do that have never been in ER in their life could have walked up and sat in there on Sunday. Yet a bunch of our own support who all have ST try something innovative to create a bit of atmosphere at a game that could easily have the lowest attendance of the season have been stopped and threatened with consequences if the dare try.Last edited by Heedersnvolleys; 15-08-2018 at 02:34 PM.
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15-08-2018 02:32 PM #134
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