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    Is There An SJM Sell On Fee Clause?

    Doubt it but hope so. Can see him going for 10 mill plus in s couple of seasons. In fact (sadly) he’s probably already worth twice that much just by virtue of signing for an English club.

    And those tramps thought they had a chance. Reality check for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Doubt it but hope so. Can see him going for 10 mill plus in s couple of seasons. In fact (sadly) he’s probably already worth twice that much just by virtue of signing for an English club.

    And those tramps thought they had a chance. Reality check for them.
    Would hope so. Seems to be standard practice these days.

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    Doubt it but hope so. Can see him going for 10 mill plus in s couple of seasons. In fact (sadly) he’s probably already worth twice that much just by virtue of signing for an English club.

    And those tramps thought they had a chance. Reality check for them.
    10% was mentioned somewhere - also an extra $2mln if AV get promoted

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    Lennon said he’s sure there will be add-ons, bonuses and so on to come.

    If Villa sold him in Jan they’d get +£10m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Doubt it but hope so. Can see him going for 10 mill plus in s couple of seasons. In fact (sadly) he’s probably already worth twice that much just by virtue of signing for an English club.

    And those tramps thought they had a chance. Reality check for them.
    Thats for the two clubs to know and for the rest of us to guess and rumour!
    Dead right about the second part though, they need many more reality checks.

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    I like the thought that Sir Alan of Stubbs will benefit to the tune of over a million quid(?) from the sale of his man today. Due to st mirren’s sell on clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shore Thing View Post
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    I like the thought that Sir Alan of Stubbs will benefit to the tune of over a million quid(?) from the sale of his man today. Due to st mirren’s sell on clause.
    I don't purely due to the fact st mirren are in the same league as us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart93 View Post
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    I don't purely due to the fact st mirren are in the same league as us.
    Good point! I’m letting my sentimental side get the better of me 😄

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    Given £20million plus is now regularly banded about even for Championship players, the sky is the limit. If he ends up performing in the Premier League, even more. £80 odd million for Harry Maguire or Zaha!

    Even a 10% sell on clause could end up being worth as much, or more, than what we just got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shore Thing View Post
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    I like the thought that Sir Alan of Stubbs will benefit to the tune of over a million quid(?) from the sale of his man today. Due to st mirren’s sell on clause.
    To be used against Hibs.

    Fair play for having add on fees, I’m sure we do the same thing.

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    33% 😏

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    He’s already worth £10m+ given he’s signed a 4 year deal. I think he’ll be worth £20m by the end of the season. Crazy money down south and it seems to be getting worse


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    what I've heard is 2 million on promotion at end of this season, if they get if course. if not then a 10% sell on

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    Does anyone know how sell ons work, do they carry on forever?

    Say the St Mirren 33% is true and we get 15% of the next sale, does 5% go to St Mirren with 10% to us?

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    Does anyone know how sell ons work, do they carry on forever?

    Say the St Mirren 33% is true and we get 15% of the next sale, does 5% go to St Mirren with 10% to us?
    no just for the first transfer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21sMay View Post
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    no just for the first transfer
    What does the contract say?

    We got a couple of sell-on fees for Fletcher and, I think, Bamba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    What does the contract say?

    We got a couple of sell-on fees for Fletcher and, I think, Bamba.

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    obviously I don't know what the transfer says but I had never heard about any future sell ons after the initial transfer . maybe I'm mistaken ? apologies if so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    Does anyone know how sell ons work, do they carry on forever?

    Say the St Mirren 33% is true and we get 15% of the next sale, does 5% go to St Mirren with 10% to us?
    Yes any money we recieve from future sales St Mirren recieve whatever their percentage is.

    FWIW worth of course Hibs will have some sort of sell on clause, given the English market it would be insane not to have some invested in future transactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Lennon said he’s sure there will be add-ons, bonuses and so on to come.

    If Villa sold him in Jan they’d get +£10m.
    Do managers get a say in how much a player goes fir? Anastasia wondered their involvement

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    Quote Originally Posted by LustForLeith View Post
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    Do managers get a say in how much a player goes fir? Anastasia wondered their involvement
    Pardon? I think you may have had enough. Anastasia also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    Does anyone know how sell ons work, do they carry on forever?

    Say the St Mirren 33% is true and we get 15% of the next sale, does 5% go to St Mirren with 10% to us?
    As with everything in life the "devil is in the detail" but I could see St. Mirren getting 33% (if that's the actual figure) of any additional fee we receive.

    For example if we have a 10% sell on clause and AV sold him for £30M two years from now we would be entitled to £3M of which St. Mirren would get £1M out of our £3M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibbySpurs View Post
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    As with everything in life the "devil is in the detail" but I could see St. Mirren getting 33% (if that's the actual figure) of any additional fee we receive.

    For example if we have a 10% sell on clause and AV sold him for £30M two years from now we would be entitled to £3M of which St. Mirren would get £1M out of our £3M.
    I doubt it. There have to be a separate sell on clause for that. St Mirren will get their percentage of any fees we get from Aston villa but after that the money is ours. Sjms signing could turn out to be our bes transfer since fletcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhibby View Post
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    I doubt it. There have to be a separate sell on clause for that. St Mirren will get their percentage of any fees we get from Aston villa but after that the money is ours. Sjms signing could turn out to be our bes transfer since fletcher.
    I hope that is the case also, just pointing out how potentially it could work if St. Mirren are entitled to anything from a further sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Stanton View Post
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    Pardon? I think you may have had enough. Anastasia also..
    You've got to have some sympathy for the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhibby View Post
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    I doubt it. There have to be a separate sell on clause for that. St Mirren will get their percentage of any fees we get from Aston villa but after that the money is ours. Sjms signing could turn out to be our bes transfer since fletcher.
    I am sure Queens Park got something from Andy Robertson going to Liverpool and would imagine that will be standard these days, St Mirren may not get as much 33% of any future fees we get but I would bet they would get something

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhibby View Post
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    I doubt it. There have to be a separate sell on clause for that. St Mirren will get their percentage of any fees we get from Aston villa but after that the money is ours. Sjms signing could turn out to be our bes transfer since fletcher.
    ...And we also got more than 1 sell-on fee for SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhibby View Post
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    I doubt it. There have to be a separate sell on clause for that. St Mirren will get their percentage of any fees we get from Aston villa but after that the money is ours. Sjms signing could turn out to be our bes transfer since fletcher.
    We won't know for sure without seeing the contract; but I'd imagine the person you quoted would be right. It would make the most sense if the contract said StM get X% of all future income from SJM. Otherwise I'm not sure where you would draw the line with add-ons, and StM could end up aggrieved if a deal was done with add-ons down the line (probably common enough for it not to be Hibs being sly) that they didn't get a chunk of.

    Although they can't be too aggrieved, they've done pretty well out of someone who still needed to be developed and was on the verge of leaving for £0 to America apparently.
    Mon the Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    ...And we also got more than 1 sell-on fee for SF.

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    We did but that is unusual. Maybe that is what rod was meaning when he said the sell on clause is nowhere near 33%. It was one throwaway line by the St Mirren chairman appeasing his fans. Its never been confirmed by either club so its likely to be around 20% IMHO with maybe a 10% of a transfer after that. That's sounds plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhibby View Post
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    We did but that is unusual. Maybe that is what rod was meaning when he said the sell on clause is nowhere near 33%. It was one throwaway line by the St Mirren chairman appeasing his fans. Its never been confirmed by either club so its likely to be around 20% IMHO with maybe a 10% of a transfer after that. That's sounds plausible.
    That sounds like complete guesswork.

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    We had a sell fee with Scott Brown look how that’s turned out,makes it even sweeter sjm never went to celtic.

    Ggtth

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