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    You told me the deals not complete, I'm just asking you now how we've managed to register a play for Europe whose deal we've not completed ? It's simple really
    The deals not complete because he can't work for us.

    Put it this way, if the visa falls through are we going to be stuck with a player we can't play? Or will the deal be called off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStokeprano View Post
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    You told me the deals not complete, I'm just asking you now how we've managed to register a play for Europe whose deal we've not completed ? It's simple really
    I actually have no idea how work permits work, but we signed him on the 8th of August and 6 days later we dont have the work permit yet.

    I'm 100% sure we are not holding it up, what do you suggest we should be doing to hurry things along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterStJock View Post
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    The deals not complete because he can't work for us.

    Put it this way, if the visa falls through are we going to be stuck with a player we can't play? Or will the deal be called off?
    He is, however, registered with us as far as the footballing authorities are concerned.

    He can't work for us, therefore he can't be paid, either by us or Man City (subject to the £945 mentioned above).

    If he doesn't get his visa, it's back in City's court. They can either cancel his contract with them (with all the legal repercussions that has), or farm him out somewhere where he will get a visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterStJock View Post
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    The deals not complete because he can't work for us.

    Put it this way, if the visa falls through are we going to be stuck with a player we can't play? Or will the deal be called off?
    I would imagine the deal between Hibs and Man C is "subject to work permit". Therefore no permit, no deal.

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    Certainly dragging on a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterStJock View Post
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    The deals not complete because he can't work for us.

    Put it this way, if the visa falls through are we going to be stuck with a player we can't play? Or will the deal be called off?
    So you are allowed to register players with uefa that you haven't yet singed? Thanks for clearing that up, we should've registered horgan when we were first linked to him just incase we signed him at a later date!!

    Should register Scott allan now aswell incase we beat molde and don't conclude the deal before the deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStokeprano View Post
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    So you are allowed to register players with uefa that you haven't yet singed? Thanks for clearing that up, we should've registered horgan when we were first linked to him just incase we signed him at a later date!!

    Should register Scott allan now aswell incase we beat molde and don't conclude the deal before the deadline.
    You're a bit precious, eh?

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    It's certainly a strange one. I would have thought that UEFA/SFA would only register players to play for a club that was employing said player.

    It seems a bit back to front for the football authorities to register him as our player when he isn't even allowed in the country at the moment and currently cannot be paid by any employer (football or otherwise) anywhere in the UK.

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    It's certainly a strange one. I would have thought that UEFA/SFA would only register players to play for a club that was employing said player.

    It seems a bit back to front for the football authorities to register him as our player when he isn't even allowed in the country at the moment and currently cannot be paid by any employer (football or otherwise) anywhere in the UK.
    Spot on mate, better not let dexterstjock see that though, hel think your a bit precious

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    He is registered under UEFA rules, but can't play under the law.
    Could we play him in the away leg though?

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    Did he travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Hibby View Post
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    Could we play him in the away leg though?
    He'd be working for us, a UK employer, so I'd guess not.

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    You're a bit precious, eh?

    U ok hun?

    PM me I'm always here for u xx
    Very insightful respsonse, you sound very clued up on the subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I actually have no idea how work permits work, but we signed him on the 8th of August and 6 days later we dont have the work permit yet.

    I'm 100% sure we are not holding it up, what do you suggest we should be doing to hurry things along?
    Had a wee look on the Home Office website and a fast track visa can take around 10 working days. So I would agree with you, BH, I don't think the hold up is at our end. This just seems like procedure to me.

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    Hope he's available for the County league cup game. I'd like to see us play a 4231 formation with two wingers.

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    From what I was told Hibs had been working on his Work Permit as far back as the first leg of Asteras. The announcement was made that we signed him due to the fact it was leaked that was registered for UEFA and McGinn was potentially leaving and needed to try softening the blow.

    Its a very strange situation and I have a feeling this will not go to plan.

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    This threads going well.

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    From what I was told Hibs had been working on his Work Permit as far back as the first leg of Asteras. The announcement was made that we signed him due to the fact it was leaked that was registered for UEFA and McGinn was potentially leaving and needed to try softening the blow.

    Its a very strange situation and I have a feeling this will not go to plan.
    Siri - explain Brexit Britain...

    a talented person from overseas is not wanted in England but is both wanted and welcomed in Scotland, where we have an important date with a fellow European friendly neighbour.

    Scotland's représentative is, however, left frustrated because the décisions (affecting our performance) are taken in London where théy couldnt care less about Hibs or Leith or the Scottish coefficient.

    Scotland can and probably will reject London but not until it is too late and we (Hibs/Scotland) are out of Europe against our Will...

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    So you are allowed to register players with uefa that you haven't yet singed? Thanks for clearing that up, we should've registered horgan when we were first linked to him just incase we signed him at a later date!!

    Should register Scott allan now aswell incase we beat molde and don't conclude the deal before the deadline.
    This guy’s having a nightmare.

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    So you are allowed to register players with uefa that you haven't yet singed? Thanks for clearing that up, we should've registered horgan when we were first linked to him just incase we signed him at a later date!!

    Should register Scott allan now aswell incase we beat molde and don't conclude the deal before the deadline.
    He’s signed for us. He just doesnt have working rights in our country yet. Uefa won’t care about that and wouldn’t check. It’s the club that would’ve fined for playing someone who doesn’t have working clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    From what I was told Hibs had been working on his Work Permit as far back as the first leg of Asteras. The announcement was made that we signed him due to the fact it was leaked that was registered for UEFA and McGinn was potentially leaving and needed to try softening the blow.

    Its a very strange situation and I have a feeling this will not go to plan.
    You think it could end up one of those, we tried hard but couldn't get it over the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Siri - explain Brexit Britain...

    a talented person from overseas is not wanted in England but is both wanted and welcomed in Scotland, where we have an important date with a fellow European friendly neighbour.

    Scotland's représentative is, however, left frustrated because the décisions (affecting our performance) are taken in London where théy couldnt care less about Hibs or Leith or the Scottish coefficient.

    Scotland can and probably will reject London but not until it is too late and we (Hibs/Scotland) are out of Europe against our Will...
    Do you realise that, post-Brexit, all those who type the letter "e" with an acute accent will be charged with sedition, and sent to the Tower?

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    This guy’s having a nightmare.
    Its a tounge in cheek response to dexterstjock who says the deals not completed but hes registered in our europa league squad.

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    He’s signed for us. He just doesnt have working rights in our country yet. Uefa won’t care about that and wouldn’t check. It’s the club that would’ve fined for playing someone who doesn’t have working clearance.

    yeah he has signed for us which is what i was saying all along, dexterstjock says he hasnt signed and the deals not completed, so ive said for a laugh we should have registered horgan and allan! Sorry im no in the hibs.net licenced tounge in cheek club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silky View Post
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    Had a wee look on the Home Office website and a fast track visa can take around 10 working days. So I would agree with you, BH, I don't think the hold up is at our end. This just seems like procedure to me.
    You have to be Meghan Markle to qualify for one of those!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStokeprano View Post
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    out of interest why would uefa allow hibs to register a player for europe that is still registered to man city ? And why would hibs have an article on the official club website stating thomas agyepong has completed his registration if hes still at man city ? ( what does completed his registration mean ? ) thanks in advance
    he has signed a loan deal with hibs so thats why he will be registered, not hard to understand surely? we will be paying very little of his wage so man city will still be paying him, they will be paying all his wage untilthe visa is sorted, not sure why you are trying to make an issue out of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyStokeprano View Post
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    yeah he has signed for us which is what i was saying all along, dexterstjock says he hasnt signed and the deals not completed, so ive said for a laugh we should have registered horgan and allan! Sorry im no in the hibs.net licenced tounge in cheek club.
    You're clearly going out your way to make friends in here eh?

    Just tone down your response a bit and youll get on fine.
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    You think it could end up one of those, we tried hard but couldn't get it over the line.
    It seems to have dragged on for a while and I’m not even sure he has any international caps to help his case? If I had to predict he’ll either be here by Minsk (if we get through) or we’ll have cancelled it with enough Transfer Window left so City can send him off to somewhere else and we can find someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    he has signed a loan deal with hibs so thats why he will be registered, not hard to understand surely? we will be paying very little of his wage so man city will still be paying him, they will be paying all his wage untilthe visa is sorted, not sure why you are trying to make an issue out of it?
    No-one can pay him. He can't work here.

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    I kind of want this to fail as we already have Horgan in his position and could spend whatever we would be paying Man City on McGinns replacement.

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