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    I thought Hitler had the socialist faction of the party murdered?
    This is what I fear may happen to the SJW' s in today's push for a promised new socialist utopia. They will be used to bring In a one world socialist government and then murdered once they are no longer useful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    You tell me I answered a question he asked. I could be wrong.

    Suppose the point in making is true socialism always leads to the death of millions. Germany were socialist under Hitler, Russia socialist under Stalin, China socialist under Mao.

    To be honest I'm clearly no expert but history shows socialism is not the answer to any nations problems.
    I suppose though there is socialism then there is socialism, there is nationalism then there is nationalism etc etc.

    They are fairly broad umbrellas which cover the very reasonable as well as the downright disgraceful.

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    Natural reaction after years of "you're a racist" as a standard response to anyone who dared question open border immigration and the effect it has had culturally and economically on the working class of the UK.
    Well.....if the shoe fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeTeam View Post
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    This is what I fear may happen to the SJW' s in today's push for a promised new socialist utopia. They will be used to bring In a one world socialist government and then murdered once they are no longer useful.
    World politics is lurching alarmingly to the Right and you are worried about a 'one world socialist government'??? Is that serious or very dry humour?

    Had to Google SJW. Second search page has an article using the term by the BNP. That's instructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester B View Post
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    World politics is lurching alarmingly to the Right and you are worried about a 'one world socialist government'??? Is that serious or very dry humour?

    Had to Google SJW. Second search page has an article using the term by the BNP. That's instructive.
    Yep, but as it turns out, many former Labour voters who thought they we're socialists actually turned out to be national socialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester B View Post
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    World politics is lurching alarmingly to the Right and you are worried about a 'one world socialist government'??? Is that serious or very dry humour?

    Had to Google SJW. Second search page has an article using the term by the BNP. That's instructive.
    He has linked to and promoted a youtube channel filled with the vilest anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Not entirely sure why he's still allowed to post. Absolute wrong 'un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
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    Troll.
    But I'll bite. You believe attacking a bookstore is a natural reaction? I suspect you haven't got the deepest understanding of history...
    Or of anything else much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    I agree with every single aspect of that.

    But I draw the line at some of the downright vile bigotry and hatred that gets spewed by the 3 usual suspects with pretty reasonable predictability.

    Christ, as a free speecher I'd even want to be tolerant of that if only because it exposes itself with its own mindless stupidity.

    What really makes my champers flat and turns my prawn sandwiches sour is the inability to cite any evidence when challenged. eg:

    "Immigrants are the problem."

    "Why?"

    "Dunno."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester B View Post
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    Was typing the same thing but beaten to it. Anyone find it odd that we clearly have fans with far right views and we are a club which was actually formed by immigrants?
    It is a bit of a contradiction, but I think it is quite a well known phenomenon- those of 'immigrant communities and working classes being the most ignorant and hostile.

    I know some of my family have fairly horrible views on these type of things. When I point out that's what people used to say about Catholics (and still do in some places!) I get blank looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Christ, as a free speecher I'd even want to be tolerant of that if only because it exposes itself with its own mindless stupidity.

    What really makes my champers flat and turns my prawn sandwiches sour is the inability to cite any evidence when challenged. eg:

    "Immigrants are the problem."

    "Why?"

    "Dunno."
    It's a fair point - you censor the type of language that's increasingly being used by "Poster A", "Poster B" and "Poster C" on here and it goes underground, leading to the empowered emergence of far-right ideals that we're increasingly seeing.

    However, there's a balance for me between free speech and not providing these wahoos with a platform. That balance is probably personal and subjective though.

    Given the stark warning admin have just put on the main board about posting behaviour, I'd like to hope that these 3 will be weeded out and removed before too long. I don't mind having passionate, constructive disagreements and arguments with people on here. It's always been a great part of .net, but having to firefight with genuine racist ideals isn't something we should welcome in the interests of "debate".

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    A troll will often post a controversial, or offensive view, then either refuse to enter into debate on it, or constantly try to divert the discussion onto other topics. A typical example will be:

    Troll: Let's all join in expressing our condolences to Paul Chuckles on the death of his brother Barry.
    Victim: Oh dear, oh dear, why are you saying that?
    Troll: So, you're saying he's a paedophile, is that it?
    Victim: What....?
    Troll: The thing that worries me about paedophiles is that they always pretend you don't know what you are saying. If the socialists get their way, it will be legalised.

    etc

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    Popped in the other day to show my support but the book selection was pretty crap so sod them.
    A whole section on transgender issues and 2 (rather Janet-and-John level) books on the housing crisis.

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