The Sportscene Thread

[bodhibs]

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Are you Lee Wallace

No lol, but I know a geekish amount about grass, both recreational and also what makes a decent surface

[bigwheel]

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To say stevenson doesnt fit a boo boy culture is just ridiculous. He used to get a fair bit of stick not so long ago. Some of it justified and a lot of it over the top. His game has improved massively from then and he consistently performs , so it would be ridiculous to jump on him for having an off day. Whittaker had been poor in most of his games with a couple of games he had done okay.

Can i just add that I totally disagree with anybody dishing out stick or abuse at the games , they are just wallopers..

He’s not the current “boo boy” target though is he? Whittaker is..Any of his errors are being picked up and disproportionately commented on - on here and during games.

People are reacting because some are isolating Whittaker for criticism when actually, during the first half, he was largely left isolated in the holding midfield role, as his midfield colleagues were not tracking their runners..

Nobody minds constructive criticism, and no one is saying he is perfect - just that he was not the main person at fault. For example: People started by finding fault at his contribution, yet Horgan who let his man run passed him and get the assist in wasn’t being mentioned by them.. that’s why some people are defending him

Overall he had a decent game yesterday - that’s not my view - that’s Neil Lennon’s..I’ll take his opinion on it .

[Danderhall Hibs]

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He’s not the current “boo boy” target though is he? Whittaker is..Any if his errors are being picked up and disproportionately commented on - on here and during games.

People are reacting because some are isolating Whittaker for criticism when actually, during the first half, he was largely left isolated in the holding midfield role, as his midfield colleagues were not tracking their runners..

Nobody minds constructive criticism, and no one is saying he is perfect - just that he was not the main person at fault. For example: People started by finding fault at his contribution, yet Horgan who let his man run passed him and get the assist in wasn’t being mentioned by them.. that’s why some people are defending him

Overall he had a decent game yesterday - that’s not my view - that’s Neil Lennon’s..I’ll take his opinion on it .

spot on

[B.H.F.C]

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I ll say again , you are referring to one game yesterday but what about the other games he has played? Regarding lennons comments , Id question his man management if he came out and criticised him in the media.

He keeps playing him so I don’t think he’s singling him out just to be nice. He obviously thinks he’s doing all right. Which would leave you having to question his knowledge of the game based on your previous post?

FWIW he wouldn’t be in my team. But it doesn’t mean others, like Lennon, don’t have any knowledge of the game if they think he is doing all right.

[Leith Green]

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He keeps playing him so I don’t think he’s singling him out just to be nice. He obviously thinks he’s doing all right. Which would leave you having to question his knowledge of the game based on your previous post?

FWIW he wouldn’t be in my team. But it doesn’t mean others, like Lennon, don’t have any knowledge of the game if they think he is doing all right.

Or he is playing him there because he doesn’t have anybody else until milligan and bartley are match fit?

[Leith Green]

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He’s not the current “boo boy” target though is he? Whittaker is..Any of his errors are being picked up and disproportionately commented on - on here and during games.

People are reacting because some are isolating Whittaker for criticism when actually, during the first half, he was largely left isolated in the holding midfield role, as his midfield colleagues were not tracking their runners..

Nobody minds constructive criticism, and no one is saying he is perfect - just that he was not the main person at fault. For example: People started by finding fault at his contribution, yet Horgan who let his man run passed him and get the assist in wasn’t being mentioned by them.. that’s why some people are defending him

Overall he had a decent game yesterday - that’s not my view - that’s Neil Lennon’s..I’ll take his opinion on it .

Are you happy with whittakers performances overall this season?

[Diclonius]

Their penalty shout was a stonewaller. Ours less clear cut but the right decision.

[B.H.F.C]

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Or he is playing him there because he doesn’t have anybody else until milligan and bartley are match fit?

He’s regularly played in front of Bartley plenty of times when he’s fit, even going back to a number of big games at the end of last season.

[bigwheel]

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Are you happy with whittakers performances overall this season?

that's not really what we are discussing.


But to answer - he had a poor start - I did note though during those games that he was often playing in positions that were not his preferred (left side of a 3 in one game)..Since he came on away in Greece (where he did well by the way)..he has done OK. He was decent yesterday and also did well against Aberdeen. He's not going to be a first pick is he? When Milligan gets up to speed. But he will do a decent shift and get enough game time over the season.

[Leith Green]

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He’s regularly played in front of Bartley plenty of times when he’s fit, even going back to a number of big games at the end of last season.

Yeah but the point being that he cant drop him cos he hasnt had anyone to bring in

[B.H.F.C]

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Yeah but the point being that he cant drop him cos he hasnt had anyone to bring in

There are other midfielders sitting on the bench. If Lennon really thought he was as bad as some on here do he wouldn’t be in the team. And he certainly wouldn’t be singling him out for praise after a game.

[Leith Green]

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that's not really what we are discussing.


But to answer - he had a poor start - I did note though during those games that he was often playing in positions that were not his preferred (left side of a 3 in one game)..Since he came on away in Greece (where he did well by the way)..he has done OK. He was decent yesterday and also did well against Aberdeen. He's not going to be a first pick is he? When Milligan gets up to speed. But he will do a decent shift and get enough game time over the season.

I agree with what your saying. I just think its harsh labelling his critics as boo boys. From what ive saw his performances have merited criticism. I ll say again , folk dishing out abuse at games are clowns. People who criticise his performances arent and it doesnt make them boo boys

[Leith Green]

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There are other midfielders sitting on the bench. If Lennon really thought he was as bad as some on here do he wouldn’t be in the team. And he certainly wouldn’t be singling him out for praise after a game.

We dont have any defensive midfielders though do we

[B.H.F.C]

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We dont have any defensive midfielders though do we

We’ve largely played with 3 at the back so could easily have played without a holding midfielder if we’d wanted to. Lennon has shown plenty times that he’ll play Whittaker through choice rather than nesessity.

[Golden Bear]

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We dont have any defensive midfielders though do we

I'm sure big Efe could do a job in there!

[bigwheel]

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I agree with what your saying. I just think its harsh labelling his critics as boo boys. From what ive saw his performances have merited criticism. I ll say again , folk dishing out abuse at games are clowns. People who criticise his performances arent and it doesnt make them boo boys

Fair enough, but at games, and on here, any mistake he is making is getting moaned at or criticised more than others. He is currently the one being "picked on"more than others. That to me is "boo boy" behaviour. Constructive criticism is interesting and fair game..when it is unfair, it is reasonable to call it out too..

[Borderhibbie76]

Spot on mate well said

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He’s not the current “boo boy” target though is he? Whittaker is..Any of his errors are being picked up and disproportionately commented on - on here and during games.

People are reacting because some are isolating Whittaker for criticism when actually, during the first half, he was largely left isolated in the holding midfield role, as his midfield colleagues were not tracking their runners..

Nobody minds constructive criticism, and no one is saying he is perfect - just that he was not the main person at fault. For example: People started by finding fault at his contribution, yet Horgan who let his man run passed him and get the assist in wasn’t being mentioned by them.. that’s why some people are defending him

Overall he had a decent game yesterday - that’s not my view - that’s Neil Lennon’s..I’ll take his opinion on it .

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[The Pointer]

We got lucky yesterday, of that there's no dispute, but come Monday morning each of the players will be handed some footage (is it a memory stick these days?) showing their own performance, which they will then go over and work on how to cut out their errors.

Obviously I'll take the three points but I'd rather it didn't depend on Maclaren cutely sticking his foot where it shouldn't have been.

[blackpoolhibs]

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We got lucky yesterday, of that there's no dispute, but come Monday morning each of the players will be handed some footage (is it a memory stick these days?) showing their own performance, which they will then go over and work on how to cut out their errors.

Obviously I'll take the three points but I'd rather it didn't depend on Maclaren cutely sticking his foot where it shouldn't have been.

Why should his feet not have been there?

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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Neil Lennon said he thought Whittaker had a good game. Are you questioning his knowledge of the game?

I don’t think Whittaker should be starting in the middle of the park and hope Milligan comes in and takes that position.

What annoys me is that he seems to be getting treated completely differently by an element of our support. Doesn’t really matter what is posted on here but I think it’s noticeable at games in terms of the reaction towards anything negative he does. You hear people moaning about him before a ball is even kicked and they are just waitig for that first mistake to jump on thereafter.

Spot on. It’s pathetic from a section of our support at the moment. Clowns behind me yesterday were desperate for him to make a mistake yet were absolutely silent anytime he made a good pass or did anything positive

[cmcd]

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We got lucky yesterday, of that there's no dispute, but come Monday morning each of the players will be handed some footage (is it a memory stick these days?) showing their own performance, which they will then go over and work on how to cut out their errors.

Obviously I'll take the three points but I'd rather it didn't depend on Maclaren cutely sticking his foot where it shouldn't have been.

We got lucky yesterday but evend out by them getting lucky at Rugby Park last season.I didn't hear there manager complaining then

[cabbageandribs1875]

[QUOTE=The Pointer;5552056]We got lucky yesterday, of that there's no dispute, but come Monday morning each of the players will be handed some footage (is it a memory stick these days?) showing their own performance, which they will then go over and work on how to cut out their errors.

Obviously I'll take the three points but I'd rather it didn't depend on Maclaren cutely sticking his foot where it shouldn't have been


broadfoot swiped the back leg away from McLaren...FACT etc

[Smartie]

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We got lucky yesterday, of that there's no dispute, but come Monday morning each of the players will be handed some footage (is it a memory stick these days?) showing their own performance, which they will then go over and work on how to cut out their errors.

Obviously I'll take the three points but I'd rather it didn't depend on Maclaren cutely sticking his foot where it shouldn't have been.

Were we lucky?

McLaren did what he was on there to do. We edged a close game against a good side by 1 goal.

It was hardly daylight robbery.

Lennon used what he had available effectively.

[Winston Ingram]

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Efe’s ‘tackle’ should have been a penalty. Too laid back as usual. Hopefully big Daz gets back to full match fitness soon. Glad to see Porteous getting starts though

I thought Efe finally managed to get through a game without a calamitous **** up. After watching the highlights, he literally just let Brophy have a free shot for the 1st and then got away with a trademark brain fart challenge on Broadfoot at the end.

[lapsedhibee]

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Their penalty shout was a stonewaller.

Not so sure. "Caught him on the ankle" but Broadfoot went down holding his head.

[Sammy7nil]

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Not so sure. "Caught him on the ankle" but Broadfoot went down holding his head.

If he caught him on the ankle and he went down holding his baws it is still a penalty

[Borderhibbie76]

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I thought Efe finally managed to get through a game without a calamitous **** up. After watching the highlights, he literally just let Brophy have a free shot for the 1st and then got away with a trademark brain fart challenge on Broadfoot at the end.

Yup once again 2 calamitous errors...lucky for him his names not Steven Whittaker so a section of our support could start booing him when he gets subbed. Efe makes these mistakes on a weekly basis and it's really got to stop...

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[Leith Green]

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Yup once again 2 calamitous errors...lucky for him his names not Steven Whittaker so a section of our support could start booing him when he gets subbed. Efe makes these mistakes on a weekly basis and it's really got to stop...

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I just watched the highlights on tv .. He just lets their guy score the first unchallenged. Poor defending from him , his challange on Broadfoot was poor as well. He has been ropey so far this season

[lapsedhibee]

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If he caught him on the ankle and he went down holding his baws it is still a penalty

Indeed, but the fact he was holding his head made me wonder whether he really was caught on the ankle, or just decided he wanted his team to have a penalty.

[Borderhibbie76]

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I just watched the highlights on tv .. He just lets their guy score the first unchallenged. Poor defending from him , his challange on Broadfoot was poor as well. He has been ropey so far this season

He sure has mate...the cynic in me us saying he wanted away and is gutted it never happened before the window closed. I'm pretty certain he will be away in Jan but let's hope he finds some form before then. Couldn't believe what I read on match day thread on Sat - some saying he strolled the game??

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