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Thread: Bookie Bashing 2018/19 Season
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11-08-2018 07:53 PM #241
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11-08-2018 09:59 PM #243This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
1. Bet £x pre-match and £x in play and if the in play bet loses, your stake is refunded as cash
2. Bet £x pre-match and get an £x free in play bet.
These two offers work out exactly the same. Are you saying you've had a different offer in the past?
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11-08-2018 10:56 PM #244
Boom!
Spurs
Bournemouth
Chelsea
Wolves-Everton draw
Returned £90.73 from a £5 bet
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12-08-2018 05:41 AM #245
What's Sundays bets then? Nothing looking too interesting to be honest..
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12-08-2018 07:49 AM #246This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-08-2018 12:04 PM #249
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Mallan 20/1 first goal and 8/1 anytime scorer with bet 365
Had him 16/1 last weekend
Other bookies only have him 13/2 first goal scorer !
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12-08-2018 05:07 PM #250This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-08-2018 06:10 PM #252
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14-08-2018 01:08 PM #253
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Challenge Cup tonight.
And tomorrow.
The main feature of this from the betting angle has been the bookies pricing Premier colts teams way too short.
In '16 they priced them as if they were reserves. Three went out to Non-League opponents at the first hurdle. Only Celtic got through two rounds. They were then horsed about 5-1 by Livi, who were in League One.
Last year the bookies over estimated the U-20s again. The seeding rule preventing U-20s playing each other was dropped. Sainties played Sheep. The other ten went w5 - l5. All six U-20S left in were hoyed out in round two.
I think the stats for the first two seasons overall were w13 - l23.
Question is though, have the bookies swung the other way now? It's U-21s this term. Does that make a difference? I'd say the problem for colts isn't the lack of physical development at 19, so much as the lack of experience of playing v. canny 30-y-o bricklayers who've been part-time SPFL pros for 8 or 10 years.
However, some of tonight's odds are tempting. Huns 17/5 v. Falkirk at Stirling. Jambos 3/1 v. Ross County. Celtic 6/4 at Annan. Sheep 7/1 😨 at Raith. Presumably the senior clubs will be resting a few players.
I don't have a firm opinion either way, but this is the hardest tourney for bookies to price-up and the one where they make most mistakes.
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14-08-2018 01:30 PM #254
I don't think I'd touch the Challenge Cup with a bargepole.
Similar to the League Cup down South (and to an extent these days, the FA cup) - you don't know how seriously teams are going to take it and how strong a team they'll put out.
I try to avoid any temptation in these competitions......
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14-08-2018 03:47 PM #255
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I'm sounding like a betting shop horserace mug punter here - the ones who enthuse "You're getting 10/1 the favourite!" before the Wokingham, Cambridgeshire or Stewards' Cup, as though the jolly was Phil Ivey playing whist or ginrummy at a Women's Institute evening.
But we are getting 10/1 the favourite in the outright market.
A few lower league teams won this in the early years but only Queen of the South from outwith the Championship have won it since the Millennium. Aye, players will be rested - but that may well apply to Stirling & Forfar as much as to the Arabs, Jags and Staggies.
I think this going to a decent Championship side is a better than 50:50 chance.
I'm having a wee play outright.
Foreigners?
Connah's Quay had a run last term, but they'd not be challengers in League 1. Not good enough. 40/1 reflects that.
TNS must be respected. This may as well have been specifically designed for them. They're not as good as the top Championship clubs, but they're better than the stragglers. They should arguably be favs in a home tie against a top Championship team that's resting a few key players. Standard & style of play in the Championship is close to what TNS are likely to face in early Champions League rounds. They'll hack-up in the Welsh League again. Closest chasers Bangor have been controversially relegated. Clubs must be licensed in Wales and Bangor have failed to satisfy the League of the stability of their income streams. TNS will take this seriously and will be thereabouts. 14/1 is a fair price for the perennial Welsh champs. (Who play in England.)
I'm ruling out the English duo. They're likely the same standard as TNS and would hold their own in the Championship. However, 46 games is a lot for English Division 5 clubs, who might have half a dozen FA Cup ties pre-Xmas and an FA Trophy fixture pile-up in the New Year. If it was Gateshead & Barrow, I'd be less dismissive. Sutton & Borehamwood are in London. They are full-time clubs, but how will they get up here in midweek? Any novelty value of a trip to Scotland will have worn thin before we discover if they go missing on the proverbial wet Wednesday November night in Dingwall. They're 25/1 each. No thanks.
The Northern Irish pair are the top two in the league from last season. Crusaders finished 2pts ahead of Coleraine, who were 20pts ahead of Glenavon... Who beat Molde in their first Europa League qualifier last month😨. The top two might be slightly better than TNS and NI clubs have tended to take this competition quite seriously: Crusaders didn't rest many players last season even though they were in a title race back home. 16/1 looks a fair price for both.
The League of Ireland duo are tricky to sum-up. Dundalk & Cork are way better than anything in the Championship, but they're way better than anything in the L.o.I. as well and they're not in the Challenge Cup. Sligo Rovers and Bohemians are.
The L.o.I. is mid-season. 8 games left. 10-team league. Bray are tailed-off. Bottom down - that'll be Bray. 2nd-bottom play-offs v. Div.1 side. Sligo and Bohs are currently 8th & 7th respectively, 5pts & 7pts respectively ahead of 9th-placed Limerick. The gulf between Premier & Div.1 over there is huge. Neither side will risk jeopardising their top-flight status for the Fizzy-Pop Cup. However, Limerick are in financial trouble and the pair might be safe by the time round two arrives. There's also the FAI Cup. That's played August to November for top teams. Top teams came in last weekend. Sligo went out last weekend. Bohs got through and have a winnable trip to Div.1 Galway in the last-16. They'll likely be concentrating on the FAI Cup, so I'd make Sligo the more threatening of the pair. Sligo are full-time. For all their trophies and (largely condemned) 40,000 capacity coliseum, Bohs are part-time, so may not be at full-strength in Scotland on a Tuesday, even if they fancied a crack at the Challenge Cup. Bohs no value at 16/1; Sligo fair at 20/1.
Of our lot, Arabs, Ross & Jags are around 10/1. Arabs should beat Sainties Colts. Jambos Colts away may be more difficult for Ross. Jags' task looks straightforward at Stranraer. Caley are 14/1 because they play Pars (20/1) first up. I'm not having either in my portfolio. Same goes for Falkirk. The Huns ploy of pulling their kids out of the Development League to play glamour friendlies was interesting. I fancy their kids to beat the Bairns, if most of the fringe first-teamers play.
For those looking for slighty bigger prices, Dumbarton v. Morton is annoying.
I'm going for the Jags at 10/1 and adding Ayr (away at Queen's Park first up) and Q.o.S. (away to Stenny first up) each-way.
May even have a fiver each-way on Peterhead at 150/1. They open v. Brechin. They made the final v. The Rangers and not too many number fives warming benches in the Championship will be confident of keeping Lyle & McAllister quiet for 90 minutes.
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14-08-2018 06:10 PM #256
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Site let me have £1.97 each way on the Blue Toon😂😂.
Where do they get these sums from?
Not a bookie where I have an overall winning record or a winning record on football.
I'm sure they would've taken the whole tenner if I'd phoned. That's bloody silly for a tenner though😁.
Likely the site would've taken the other £6.06 if I'd gone back on a while later, but St.Mirren v. Killie kicked-off at 6:58.
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14-08-2018 09:23 PM #257
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Another £200 tonight, think it was Dover 1-3 down at home and came back to win 4-3. Three wins this season, £245, £150 and £200, my best form for a long time.
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14-08-2018 09:41 PM #258
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I didn't play, other than the outright Irn-Bru bets.
Celts, Huns, Sheep & Gunts u-21s all lost.
'Well u-21s won 3-0 at East Stirlingshire, but they should've done, as they were 10/11. Accies u-21s saw-off Clyde 4-1 at 11/4. Livi u-21s were 13/2 to beat Forfar and were 1-0 up with 20 minutes to play when the floodlights failed. The Daily Record would be interested to hear from anyone who saw an Oriental guy, carrying a monkey-wrench and an acca betting slip with "Forfar 1/3" on it, sneaking out of the ground at around ten-past-nine.
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14-08-2018 09:50 PM #262
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14-08-2018 09:53 PM #263
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...Mr. Guldberg also goes for:
Maribor -1
Rosenborg to win to nil
Midtjylland -2
Burnley to win
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Thats not a bad bet to be honest.
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14-08-2018 10:01 PM #265
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Derek Guldberg also does the coefficient stats tips column.
Goes for:
Zrinski "draw no bet" at big odds v. Ludogorets.
Uni.Craiova "draw no bet: at bigger odds v. Leipzig.
Steaua at 3/4 to beat Hajduk.
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16-08-2018 07:36 AM #267
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Racing Post is frugal with its tips today. It's stopped printing the various league tables, such is seemingly the lack of interest in the Europa League.
Wee sprog Liam Flin does the column and selects Molde at 8/11 as one of his tips. You'd have to be wary of a column that contains the sentence, "Rangers hold a 3-1 advantage in their tie with Maribor and can finish off the job at Ibrox"😨... But that looks to be an auto-correct or typo error. He recommends the Huns at 5/4 in the "draw no bet" market. (As above, Derek Guldberg of the RFO, for which Flin also writes, tipped Maribor -1 in this week's paper.)
The market on tonight's Molde v. Hibs game resembles a dog race in the good old days at Powderhall. One might expect syringes could've been involved. Either that or Greek/Soviet-style roadworks, power cuts and fire alarms were numerous at the Hibs hotel last night.
The 8/11 Molde has become a best 11/17 and that's a standout with one of the online casinos. Hibs have marched out from a best of 17/4 with Bet365 in the Racing Post's odds table, obviously last night's prices, to 5/1 with BetVictor, Ladbrokes and BetFred. Around half a point longer is available with some of the tax haven bookies.
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