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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Over the last two seasons since the format of the League Cup changed, only one team has failed to qualify with 9 points and that was Peterhead last season.

    If they lose the 3 points they got against Cove Rangers, the maximum number of points they'll be able to get is 8 points and only one team has qualified with that number of points which again was Peterhead two years ago and they won their group that year.

    No team has qualified with 8 points or less as a runner up.

    Basically if Cove Rangers get awarded the win from their match against Hearts, then Hearts are almost certainly out.

    And yes, the hearing is tomorrow.
    Even if they have the points deducted, I think two wins from their two games at Tynecastle guarantees they go through.


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    Yessir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Even if they have the points deducted, I think two wins from their two games at Tynecastle guarantees they go through.

    It’s very unlikely that will be enough. Only the 4 best 2nd placed teams go through unseeded in the next round.

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    It’s very unlikely that will be enough. Only the 4 best 2nd placed teams go through unseeded in the next round.
    So they do, forgetting about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    It’s very unlikely that will be enough. Only the 4 best 2nd placed teams go through unseeded in the next round.
    8 points could see them win the group though which would take them through.

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    8 points could see them win the group though which would take them through.
    Hopefully Inverness win at home to Raith on Tuesday and end any possibility of that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Even if they have the points deducted, I think two wins from their two games at Tynecastle guarantees they go through.
    It won’t guarantee they’ll go through. As SDG says, most of the next runners who’ve qualified have needed 9 points for 2nd place. If Caley beat Raith on Sunday, they will top the group
    Picture of who are likely to get the 4 best runners up spot, won’t be clearer until the midweek games are clearer
    After points, it’s GD that counts, and if they are given a 3-0 defeat against Cove, that will probably rule them out

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    8 points could see them win the group though which would take them through.

    Yes but they would need Raith to beat Inverness up north which I personally can’t see happening.

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    It’s all all an exercise in futility anyway. That hearts team is gash and ICT will hump them

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    It’s very unlikely that will be enough. Only the 4 best 2nd placed teams go through unseeded in the next round.
    Correct.

    If Killie and St Mirren both win their final two games, they'll be on 10 points.

    If Motherwell win their final two games, they'll be on 10 points. Queen of the South already have 9 points.

    Patrick Thistle/Ayr United both likely to achieve more points than 8.

    St Johnstone/Montrose both likely to achieve more than 8 points.

    After that there's probably another two groups where the second place team could achieve more than 8 points.

    All ifs and buts though at this stage. All will be clearer by midweek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Over the last two seasons since the format of the League Cup changed, only one team has failed to qualify with 9 points and that was Peterhead last season.

    If they lose the 3 points they got against Cove Rangers, the maximum number of points they'll be able to get is 8 points and only one team has qualified with that number of points which again was Peterhead two years ago and they won their group that year.

    No team has qualified with 8 points or less as a runner up.

    Basically if Cove Rangers get awarded the win from their match against Hearts, then Hearts are almost certainly out.

    And yes, the hearing is tomorrow.
    Thanks for clarifying everything. We will now need to wait on the Spfl. More interested in who we get in Europe though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Even if they have the points deducted, I think two wins from their two games at Tynecastle guarantees they go through.
    It very much doesn’t.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It very much doesn’t.


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    Aye I’m aware of that now, it hadn’t occurred to me that not all second placed teams qualify.

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    Anyone know what time the outcome [3-0 score to Cove, in all likelihood] is due to be announced today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by springbank View Post
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    anyone know what time the outcome [3-0 score to cove, in all likelihood] is due to be announced today?
    2pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by essexhibee View Post
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    2pm
    Meeting starts at 2 apparently so probably a bit later

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