Hearts field ineligible player vs Cove.

**Del Boy** · 23-07-2018 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Paisley Hibby

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But they played 2 ineligibile players

One was an unused sub.

**SquashedFrogg** · 23-07-2018 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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We don’t. That’s more than a bit OTT.

Still corrupt - which isn't a good thing.

**we are hibs** · 23-07-2018 03:26 PM

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We don’t. That’s more than a bit OTT.

You must have missed the part where rangers cheated clubs for years and got away with it

**marinello59** · 23-07-2018 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

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Still corrupt - which isn't a good thing.

Where’s the corruption? Mismanaged and lacking consistency, Yes. But corrupt?

**Ozyhibby** · 23-07-2018 03:28 PM

Gives them a great chance of qualifying if they win their 2 games.
Scottish football is run by imbeciles.

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***Bostonhibby*** · 23-07-2018 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by we are hibs

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You must have missed the part where rangers cheated clubs for years and got away with it

But they sometimes have to call themselves The rangers now. That's the type of punishments five way agreements and "moving on" gets you, sadly.

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**Ozyhibby** · 23-07-2018 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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Where’s the corruption? Mismanaged and lacking consistency, Yes. But corrupt?

The lack of transparency make such allegations very easy to make.
The LNS decision where the SFA changed or withheld evidence was clear corruption.
If the SFA don’t think so they can sue me if they like.

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***Jim44*** · 23-07-2018 03:30 PM

I get the impression that the KB muppets think the decision was a victory, that they are now almost certain to qualify and that we, somehow are seething losers.

***Bishop Hibee*** · 23-07-2018 03:31 PM

I thought a 3 point deduction and a 10K fine was a shoo-in. I reckoned without SPFL shamelessly having different rules for clubs st different levels. Farcical.

***Aldo*** · 23-07-2018 03:32 PM

Bottled it big time and once again it is there for all to see!

Left them enough room to qualify

Shocking decision imho!

Cove are the ones that will feel more aggrieved (mind you a lot on here will)

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***danhibees1875*** · 23-07-2018 03:33 PM

To be fair, Hearts could have played me and still beaten Cove - calling the game a draw, as weird a conclusion as that is to come to, is still a punishment. It's not as if they actually cheated, they just overlooked a bit of paper work.

**Gordy M** · 23-07-2018 03:35 PM

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To be fair, Hearts could have played me and still beaten Cove - calling the game a draw, as weird a conclusion as that is to come to, is still a punishment. It's not as if they actually cheated, they just overlooked a bit of paper work.

Its not a draw though....unless Cove have also been awarded points??

**Ralphy C** · 23-07-2018 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by PapillonVert

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If the beaks have declared the game was a draw, logically you would think that CR would be awarded 1 point. You don't get 2 pts for a draw. But, hey, this is Scottish football officialdom at its most opaque, so who knows?

Looks like the result stands but two points deducted for breaking rules of competition, makes some sense as the points are deducted win,lose or draw the match.

**Real Emerald** · 23-07-2018 03:35 PM

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To be fair, Hearts could have played me and still beaten Cove - calling the game a draw, as weird a conclusion as that is to come to, is still a punishment. It's not as if they actually cheated, they just overlooked a bit of paper work.

If they're calling it a draw then they should lose a goal and cove receive a point and a goal otherwise Cove get nothing from Hearts breaking the rules against them.

**GillyHibee** · 23-07-2018 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by danhibees1875

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To be fair, Hearts could have played me and still beaten Cove - calling the game a draw, as weird a conclusion as that is to come to, is still a punishment. It's not as if they actually cheated, they just overlooked a bit of paper work.

They did cheat. They have played an unregistered player, which is against the rules.

I hope that Cove Rangers put something into the SFA.

**Austinho** · 23-07-2018 03:37 PM

Silly decision. What if (and it’s a big if) Hearts go on to win the competition? Would be highly contentious.

Still, while we’re finding out our European opposition, Hearts are finding out how much they’ve been penalised for their incompetence- joke is still on them, scandal or not.

**SquashedFrogg** · 23-07-2018 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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Where’s the corruption?Mismanaged and lacking consistency, Yes. But corrupt?

**marinello59** · 23-07-2018 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by we are hibs

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You must have missed the part where rangers cheated clubs for years and got away with it

So if it had been Cove who made a clerical error and received the same punishment you would be expressing exactly the same degree of outrage? I doubt you would even raise an eyebrow.

***danhibees1875*** · 23-07-2018 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Gordy M

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Its not a draw though....unless Cove have also been awarded points??

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If they're calling it a draw then they should lose a goal and cove receive a point and a goal otherwise Cove get nothing from Hearts breaking the rules against them.

Fair points, which seems harsh on Cove relative to other similar incidents. It seems like the win stands and they're deducted 2 points for the mistake (as someone says above). It just effectively nullifies their points for the win down to a draw equivalent.

Originally Posted by GillyHibee

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They did cheat. They have played an unregistered player, which is against the rules.

I hope that Cove Rangers put something into the SFA.

They made a mistake with some paperwork, played some player who they've had signed for a while who isn't exactly a stand out player (I'm guessing). It's not a deliberate act to break the rules and gain advantage, so it's not cheating IMO.

**~~660~~** · 23-07-2018 03:45 PM

They’ll finish second and go out most likely it would seem.

**Geo_1875** · 23-07-2018 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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So if it had been Cove who made a clerical error and received the same punishment you would be expressing exactly the same degree of outrage? I doubt you would even raise an eyebrow.

But they have been making "clerical errors" for years and always seem to get away with it. Something stinks and it's not just their fans.

**marinello59** · 23-07-2018 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

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Good point, well made. You can’t argue with well reasoned stuff like that. I’m out.

***Johnny_Leith*** · 23-07-2018 03:48 PM

Establishment club. No surprise.

**SquashedFrogg** · 23-07-2018 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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So if it had been Cove who made a clerical error and received the same punishment you would be expressing exactly the same degree of outrage? I doubt you would even raise an eyebrow.

And why would he? Cove (a) aren't a rival club, and (b) haven't got history of cheating within the Scottish game*

*Haven't actually checked this fact

**SquashedFrogg** · 23-07-2018 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by marinello59

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Good point, well made. You can’t argue with well reasoned stuff like that. I’m out.

***Billy Whizz*** · 23-07-2018 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by 660

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They’ll finish second and go out most likely it would seem.

Two wins could put them on the same points as Inverness. At the moment Inverness have a goal advantage of +4 v Hearts
Inverness would need to match or better Hearts score tomorrow night.
If Hearts go into last game v Inverness on -4 goals, a 3-0 victory would let them top the group
It’s too early to say if they finished 2nd on 9 points, if they could get one of the four runners up spots

What a boost this has given them and their fans, and 2 potentially big gates as well

**grammyb111** · 23-07-2018 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by danhibees1875

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Fair points, which seems harsh on Cove relative to other similar incidents. It seems like the win stands and they're deducted 2 points for the mistake (as someone says above). It just effectively nullifies their points for the win down to a draw equivalent.

They made a mistake with some paperwork, played some player who they've had signed for a while who isn't exactly a stand out player (I'm guessing). It's not a deliberate act to break the rules and gain advantage, so it's not cheating IMO.

This is where I am too, they didn't cheat. In a league situation you can't very well award points to the team they were playing against, the same error could have been made against anyone and impacts the rest of the league. In a straight knock-out, the punishment being a replay/losing team going through doesn't impact other teams so is more fair.

Can't see how they can justify the punishment being 2pts, but I agree with the points not being awarded to Cove.

***Billy Whizz*** · 23-07-2018 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

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Two wins could put them on the same points as Inverness. At the moment Inverness have a goal advantage of +4 v Hearts
Inverness would need to match or better Hearts score tomorrow night.
If Hearts go into last game v Inverness on -4 goals, a 3-0 victory would let them top the group
It’s too early to say if they finished 2nd on 9 points, if they could get one of the four runners up spots

What a boost this has given them and their fans, and 2 potentially big gates as well

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***Spike Mandela*** · 23-07-2018 03:53 PM

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Where’s the corruption? Mismanaged and lacking consistency, Yes. But corrupt?

Where's the corruption???? Have you had your eyes and ears shut for the last 6 years. The authorities in this country don't even hide how blatant they are. This fudge is a joke but Hearts quite rightly probably defended themselves by pointing to the treatment of Rangers cheating.