Oil Shaw

[Arch Stanton]

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Finally a bit of sense.

I’m excited about Oli Shaw, but the constant revisionism on here does my nut in.

Regardless of what he does or doesn’t do in the rest of his career, JC was great for us. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

'constant revisionism' will always get you, won't it! In ways the Spanish Inquisition' won't, to be sure!

[Jones28]

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Love Oli but he's a bit to go to be as good as Cummings at same age.

Cummings first season he didn't score apart from the playoffs I don't think?

Genuinely think Shaw is better. Better finisher, quicker, better decision maker and as he showed last night he can have a dig from distance.

[hibbysam]

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The main thing is that he's finding himself in these positions, the goals will come.

I'd be more worried if he wasn't getting into positions for great chances.

I totally agree. And hopefully it comes with the experience. However, once your in the first team these are the big decisions you need to be getting right, especially when your missing the chances yourself.

[hibbysam]

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The one first half from SJM's pass ? I think he was quite right to have a shot on that occasion as he was through on goal and drawing the keeper out. Sometimes a striker does, as you say, need to play with their head up - but he is getting into great scoring positions and I'd be more worried if he wasn't scoring or being too hesitant in front of goal. One thing with Oli is he is a really confident lad who never allows his head to go down when he misses the target. His goal last night was excellent and his all round game is coming on no end.

You could also argue Flo could have slipped players in against Blackburn however he opted three times to shoot from distance outside the box. It's striker's mindset to score goals and often it's at the expense of that 'obvious' pass.

Yeah that one, Flo was on the penalty spot with an open goal, as you say he had drawn the keeper out and the angle ended up fairly narrow as he was running in from the left corner of the box.

I also agree about Flo, I used to liken him to an amateur striker when he first signed due to these long shots, he’s not got a great strike on him from distance (too often drags and scuffs shots wide). Best to get these out the way now though and hope it all clicks again but early signs are positive if these are the gripes we have.

[Smartie]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

[Big_Franck]

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Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

Agreed, and that's before we look at his record of goals against them. And the importance of those goals.

[BSEJVT]

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Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

One of the best posts on here for a long long time

Absolutely 100% the case

[Elephant Stone]

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Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

[Iggy Pope]

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Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

Spot on Smartie, spot on.

[ancient hibee]

Cummings record of a goal every 2games(approx)speaks for itself even if most were in the lower league.However he was very badly advised on his decision to leave and his choice of club.Quite a few of us predicted what would happen and his career has suffered.Hope Posh and he are good for each other.

[Arch Stanton]

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Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

I don't think Cummings gets any disrespect on here - genuine discussion on his ability seems fair enough to me. You can actually be respectful without dishing out uncritical admiration.

Anyway, a long discussion about Cummings on an Oli Shaw thread is hardly respectful to Shaw, IMO.

[Iggy Pope]

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I don't think Cummings gets any disrespect on here - genuine discussion on his ability seems fair enough to me. You can actually be respectful without dishing out uncritical admiration.

Anyway, a long discussion about Cummings on an Oli Shaw thread is hardly respectful to Shaw, IMO.

It's how it evolves unfortunately. In other news we have selling our top player of the past 4 seasons versus the merits of an indoor pitch.

[Hibernian32]

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Cracking goal , looks like he works well with Flo . The most exciting young striker weve had since the Riordan/Fletcher days .

Cummings? Griffiths? Stokes?

[SRHibs]

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Cummings? Griffiths? Stokes?

Griffiths wasn’t technically “ours” so it wasn’t quite the same, and I’m personally more excited about Flo’s potential than I was Stokes or Cummings. He’s exciting, but he also has a maturity about him. Flo has the potential to make us an absolute fortune if he keeps progressing like he has been.

EDIT: Oh he was talking about Shaw. In that case I agree, Shaw is exciting but very rough around the edges. Flo though. 😍

[Keith_M]

BP or Shell?