I really hope that Barcelona side isn't remembered by calling it "tiki-taka"...
I think if you went to Spain and talked about those teams (Spain 2008-12 and Barcelona 2008-12) and used the words "tiki-taka" youd get laughed at. It's a silly name that means nothing, like calling the German national side "die mannshaft".
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Thread: The Decline & Fall of Tika-Taka?
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11-07-2018 01:33 PM #31
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11-07-2018 01:35 PM #32
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Cruyff era Holland, Pele's Brasil (esp 1970), Cruyff's Ajax, Gullitt's Milan and - though it pains me to say it - the Real Madrid of the late 50s. All at least as good and probably better than Barcelona/Spain. The Dalgleish era and onward Liverpool should probably be included too. Maybe you need to take a slightly longer historical view?
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11-07-2018 01:51 PM #36
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My abiding highlight is when we tikka takkad through the Gorgie rearguard seven times in the one afternoon.
Unforgettable.
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11-07-2018 02:14 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuotePM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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11-07-2018 02:21 PM #39
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I can't stand it so hope it is on its way out. At least a hump up the park can lead to some excitement.
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11-07-2018 02:25 PM #40
The rise of the set piece as championed by Liam “the deliverer” Henderson 🇳🇬🏆
"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire
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11-07-2018 02:25 PM #41
It was never about just keeping the ball for the sake of it, it was ball retention to carve out an opening, Barca did it with pace and guile, their players were quite simply fabulous at the time, controlled build up and precise defence splitting passes and attacked with pace on the counter when opponents lost the ball. Look at Man City right now, the new Barca similar style, 65-70% possession, are they boring jeez they were outstanding this year at times, Guardiola instilling the same style as he did at Barca.
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11-07-2018 02:35 PM #42
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But that’s the point though, isn’t it? Some successful football teams are so dominant that they don’t just win trophies but they define a style of play, and everyone else either copies them or works out how to spoil their game.
Tiki taka absolutely belongs up there with the best. By any standard, the 2008-2012 achievements of Barcelona and Spain were exceptional.
The haterz have it wrong.
The 3-3 game between Spain and Portugal at this World Cup is widely regarded as one of the best matches of the tournament, and Spain were in proper tiki taka mode that night.
Football tactics are about innovation and reaction. No one style can dominate forever. Yet tiki taka still has a huge influence a decade on.
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11-07-2018 04:11 PM #48
The football played by Barca and Spain during that era was, literally, second to none. With your Xavis and Iniestas proving flawless, it was a joy to behold watching them in full flow; the problem was that every coach in the world thought football could be won on percentages of possession, and teams imitated the style without the substance of your Iniestas, Xavis and Messis. The problem for Spain, and Barca - and every imitator under the sun - is they don't have Xavi and Iniesta at their peak pulling the strings any more, and so the show's over. What a midfield pair they were, though.
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11-07-2018 04:19 PM #49
I've never enjoyed watching a team that wasn't hibs as much as Barcelona when Messi iniesta and Xavi were at it. Some of the quick passing and one two's were out of this world. I remember watching arsenal doing to Barcelona what Barcelona had done for so long to others. Wilshere ran the midfield against Busquets, Xavi and iniesta that night.
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11-07-2018 04:32 PM #50
I think England's biggest asset is that they play with energy and directness. With a bit of luck, they could win it, although I still fancy France.
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11-07-2018 05:28 PM #51
Tika taka done correctly is very watchable, with quick passes and incisive movement to create openings combined with close pressing to immediately recover possession if the ball is lost.
Tika taka done badly becomes possession for the sake of it with no threat to the opposition, and about as exciting as having a non-restricted view seat in the half-finished stand at the PBS.Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within.
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11-07-2018 05:58 PM #53
You're definitely right there pal, with the journalists' mantra... for me, living in Spain at the time following Rayo Vallecano, watching the national team or Barca was just the fruition of Johann Cruyff's perception of Total Football. And it was beautiful to see. Even when the team you were following became the victim.
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Surely both short passing in tight spaces and long passing, to take advantage of big spaces, are both about speed of thought, speed of action and control in execution? I. Cathro
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Doesn't bother me at all, just giving my thoughts.
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