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    There was a sparrowhawk flew in during first half chasing a pigeon and that startled them as they buggered off up towards south stand for a bit !

    Its great watching them action, looking out your window and seeing a sparrow hawk pouncing is incredible!


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    Absolutely cannot stand them. Hope something can be done.
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    When I worked at the Royal Ed I was speaking to a pest control guy, he had a falcon on his arm, he said they are not allowed to destroy the gulls but the falcon (and hawks) are sent in during hatching season & peck at the eggs to destroy the embryos inside.
    Saw a hawk in operation outside Kings Cross Station. Seemed to be a railtrack employee, as there was a guy in uniform it returned to.

    It didn't kill any seagulls, but it kept them away. The only guys prepared to have a go were the crows.

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    Can we not get an eagle or plastic owl or something? Scare them away somehow...
    Hertz were selling one, £4000 I think. No worth it.

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    The council used to go about in cherry pickers and shoot these rat b******s as well as the eggs in the nests to keep the population down, I wonder if they still do this? Seagulls are becoming more and more brazen and lesss frightened of humans.

    Used to see the guys in Waverley station on the nightshift picking off roosting pigeons with an air rifle as well until someone/people complained about the dead ones lying on the tracks. Sensitive souls...
    There was some sort of bird - pigeon or seagull I assume - actually nesting in the girders of the East Stand roof last season, down towards the North Stand end circa section 39!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Its great watching them action, looking out your window and seeing a sparrow hawk pouncing is incredible!
    Sparrowhawk's pounce?

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    I sat a few months back on the Castle St rank watching a sparrow hawk attacking the pigeons, couldn't believe what I was watching, pigeon got away too, seemingly it nests near the railway line in the gardens.

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    Its not rocket science. The ground has been empty for weeks, the birds are nesting. All of a sudden thousands of people appear and start hanging around the seagull weans, seagull parents go ape.

    They'll calm down in a couple of weeks when the chicks are away.

    In the meantime folk could really help by not throwing their rubbish away like animals.

    Watched some halfwit the day fling his pie a couple of rows away - then wonders why he was being mobbed for the next half hour.

    Every year. Grown humans losing in a battle of wits with a bird.

    We've got a couple in our yard nesting, i feed them mackerel before i leave some nights, mostly to severely annoy the guys in the unit next door who keep parking their vans across our gate.

    Useful animals.

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    Said it on these threads before signing of a peregrine falcon even more important than Scott Allan.

    After today’s performance which was flat all round even with SJM maybes no!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
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    There was a sparrowhawk flew in during first half chasing a pigeon and that startled them as they buggered off up towards south stand for a bit !
    Excellent urban bird action you saw there. Sparrowhawks aren’t that common, so a good spot.

    As for the dirty gull bassas, the reason they thrive is because of manky humans and inadequate waste disposal. No two ways about it, they prosper on our filth. That today was unbelievable. The6 were swarming into the west stand. We need to get some hawk kites up. Seen them in fields where farmers use them to scare of birds wanting a wee peck at shoots. Worth a go maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
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    There was a sparrowhawk flew in during first half chasing a pigeon and that startled them as they buggered off up towards south stand for a bit !
    I saw that. I was beginning to doubt it was a hawk until you mentioned it. It did clear them for a bit.

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    There was some sort of bird - pigeon or seagull I assume - actually nesting in the girders of the East Stand roof last season, down towards the North Stand end circa section 39!
    The nest was still there today. Right at the front of the last section of the East next to the FF. thats where i thought the hawk came from.

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    Gulls are actually on the decline, according to my RSPB employee Girlfriend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkinho View Post
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    Gulls are actually on the decline, according to my RSPB employee Girlfriend

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    Yep, they've dropped from 50,000,000 in the Easter Road area to 49,999,999 in one close season. There'll be none left in fifty million years.

    I'd start using them as pig feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    The nest was still there today. Right at the front of the last section of the East next to the FF. thats where i thought the hawk came from.
    it chased a pigeon into East a Stand and flew out of there and away out between FF and main stand

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    We should get the sparrow hawk signed. Sounds like a pacy winger.

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    Its not rocket science. The ground has been empty for weeks, the birds are nesting. All of a sudden thousands of people appear and start hanging around the seagull weans, seagull parents go ape.

    They'll calm down in a couple of weeks when the chicks are away.

    In the meantime folk could really help by not throwing their rubbish away like animals.

    Watched some halfwit the day fling his pie a couple of rows away - then wonders why he was being mobbed for the next half hour.

    Every year. Grown humans losing in a battle of wits with a bird.

    We've got a couple in our yard nesting, i feed them mackerel before i leave some nights, mostly to severely annoy the guys in the unit next door who keep parking their vans across our gate.

    Useful animals.
    Sorry, and this might sound totally daft, but I don’t pay £20 to sit in a stand ducking and diving from hundreds of seagulls who are flying at people. Today was more about avoiding birds than watching football. Hibs must do something about it, I don’t think I’ve noticed the issue in any other stadium but it’s a terrible problem at ER.

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    The club really need to do more on this. It’s embarrassing. Buy a hawk or whatever. There was 100s of them and not one bought a ticket today. 😂

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    I sat a few months back on the Castle St rank watching a sparrow hawk attacking the pigeons, couldn't believe what I was watching, pigeon got away too, seemingly it nests near the railway line in the gardens.
    That was one lucky pigeon, the wood pigeon in my back garden didn't stand a chance with sparrow hawk that got it.

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    Sorry, and this might sound totally daft, but I don’t pay £20 to sit in a stand ducking and diving from hundreds of seagulls who are flying at people. Today was more about avoiding birds than watching football. Hibs must do something about it, I don’t think I’ve noticed the issue in any other stadium but it’s a terrible problem at ER.

    My yam mate mentioned that they have a similar problem with those flying c**** at the PBS as well. One guy in the Wheatfield got really frustrated and tried to punch one. 😂 Must just be Edinburgh then with this seagulls at football games problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    We should get the sparrow hawk signed. Sounds like a pacy winger.
    With an eye for gull?

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    My yam mate mentioned that they have a similar problem with those flying c**** at the PBS as well. One guy in the Wheatfield got really frustrated and tried to punch one. 😂 Must just be Edinburgh then with this seagulls at football games problem?
    Sure there's gulls at Pittoders also.

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    I think it's a Faroes plot to make their boys feel at home on Thursday.

    It might put our players off but the Faroes boys will feel right at home.

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    Sorry, and this might sound totally daft, but I don’t pay £20 to sit in a stand ducking and diving from hundreds of seagulls who are flying at people. Today was more about avoiding birds than watching football. Hibs must do something about it, I don’t think I’ve noticed the issue in any other stadium but it’s a terrible problem at ER.
    How often are you in other stadiums that have been lying empty at this time of year?

    What do you want Hibs to do about it?

    The hawk shaped kite things don't work (unit next to us has one, the gulls perch next to it while they wait on me putting their fish out :))

    Plastic owls and suchlike don't work (unit next door has one of them too ;))

    You could net the roofs of every stand but it'd cost a fortune - and the nets need to be maintained and replaced all the time.

    You can't destroy the birds, their chicks or their nest, that's against the law. You also can't restrict access to the nests, that's also illegal.

    You could try to persuade people not to throw their litter about but that's impossible apparently.

    You could get Petrie to persuade a white tailed eagle to nest in his 'tache but it's a bit inconvenient for him (gulls laugh at sparrowhawks).

    Or you could wait a couple of weeks and they'll go away on their own.

    Quite rightly (imo) we value the bird's continued existence more than we value a slight inconvenience to people.

    But it's ok, Herring Gulls are a Red List species - meaning their numbers have declined by more than 50% over the last 25 years and they're globally in decline - so give it a few more years and the problem will solve itself.

    And then we'll all be moaning about paying more taxes to fund the extra refuse collection that's needed to remove all the organic waste from our streets that the birds currently collect for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barcahibs View Post
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    How often are you in other stadiums that have been lying empty at this time of year?

    What do you want Hibs to do about it?

    The hawk shaped kite things don't work (unit next to us has one, the gulls perch next to it while they wait on me putting their fish out :))

    Plastic owls and suchlike don't work (unit next door has one of them too ;))

    You could net the roofs of every stand but it'd cost a fortune - and the nets need to be maintained and replaced all the time.

    You can't destroy the birds, their chicks or their nest, that's against the law. You also can't restrict access to the nests, that's also illegal.

    You could try to persuade people not to throw their litter about but that's impossible apparently.

    You could get Petrie to persuade a white tailed eagle to nest in his 'tache but it's a bit inconvenient for him (gulls laugh at sparrowhawks).

    Or you could wait a couple of weeks and they'll go away on their own.

    Quite rightly (imo) we value the bird's continued existence more than we value a slight inconvenience to people.

    But it's ok, Herring Gulls are a Red List species - meaning their numbers have declined by more than 50% over the last 25 years and they're globally in decline - so give it a few more years and the problem will solve itself.

    And then we'll all be moaning about paying more taxes to fund the extra refuse collection that's needed to remove all the organic waste from our streets that the birds currently collect for free.
    I’m not sure where you’re based or if you make it along to ER. These pests appear to be on the increase in the UK. Maybe globally their numbers are in decline - doesn’t appear the case here. There have been numerous stories over the past few years of people being attacked and injured and pets being killed by them. They are a menace and need controlling pronto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkinho View Post
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    Gulls are actually on the decline, according to my RSPB employee Girlfriend

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    She is right, one of which the Herring Gull has been recently listed as amber listed. That is it is of concern, although the UK is a strongold for this species the listing concerns the European breeding range as a whole.
    The other species you see is the summer visiting Lesser black backed Gull which nests throughout Edinburgh.
    Loads of which can be found on rooftops around Leith, particularly the flat topped industrial ones near the harbour as well as down at Granton. Opposite Go-outdoors for instance.
    Whilst this species is not listed as "of concern" it is still protected in Britain as is much of our wildlife.
    That is unless your on a grouse moor, but that's another story!!!
    Anyway get used to these gulls as there here to stay!

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    I'm based in central Scotland and I was at ER today.

    Anecdotes aren't data, people are actually employed to monitor species numbers - i used to be one of them.

    Herring Gull numbers are down more than 70% since the 1970s. That's just a fact.

    What may be happening is that the remaining populations are moving away from the coasts (because we've massively polluted and over-fished the oceans leaving them nothing to eat) and into the towns where there is a plentiful supply of food provided by morons throwing their chips onto the ground.

    It makes it look like there's more of them even as their numbers disappear of a cliff.

    And despite what facebook and the Daily Mail would like you to believe seagulls don't routinely kill cats/dogs and children are far more at risk of death or injury from swallowing discarded cigarette butts than they are from seagulls.

    FWIW the only reason we have so many seagulls in towns is because we already shot all the Red Kites.

    Get rid of the seagulls and I'll predict rat populations will explode.
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    How often are you in other stadiums that have been lying empty at this time of year?

    What do you want Hibs to do about it?

    The hawk shaped kite things don't work (unit next to us has one, the gulls perch next to it while they wait on me putting their fish out :))

    Plastic owls and suchlike don't work (unit next door has one of them too ;))

    You could net the roofs of every stand but it'd cost a fortune - and the nets need to be maintained and replaced all the time.

    You can't destroy the birds, their chicks or their nest, that's against the law. You also can't restrict access to the nests, that's also illegal.

    You could try to persuade people not to throw their litter about but that's impossible apparently.

    You could get Petrie to persuade a white tailed eagle to nest in his 'tache but it's a bit inconvenient for him (gulls laugh at sparrowhawks).

    Or you could wait a couple of weeks and they'll go away on their own.

    Quite rightly (imo) we value the bird's continued existence more than we value a slight inconvenience to people.

    But it's ok, Herring Gulls are a Red List species - meaning their numbers have declined by more than 50% over the last 25 years and they're globally in decline - so give it a few more years and the problem will solve itself.

    And then we'll all be moaning about paying more taxes to fund the extra refuse collection that's needed to remove all the organic waste from our streets that the birds currently collect for free.
    They don’t go away though do they? They ease off a little but throughout the season it’s a massive problem. I wouldn’t go to the theatre and expect to not watch the show with fear of being shat on or bombed by birds, I pay money to go to ER to watch the football, today wasn’t a ‘slight inconvenience’ it was a total pain in the arse. I get your probably some weird seagull enthusiast but that doesn’t mean we sit back and accept the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barcahibs View Post
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    I'm based in central Scotland and I was at ER today.

    Anecdotes aren't data, people are actually employed to monitor species numbers - i used to be one of them.

    Herring Gull numbers are down more than 70% since the 1970s. That's just a fact.

    What may be happening is that the remaining populations are moving away from the coasts (because we've massively polluted and over-fished the oceans leaving them nothing to eat) and into the towns where there is a plentiful supply of food provided by morons throwing their chips onto the ground.

    It makes it look like there's more of them even as their numbers disappear of a cliff.

    And despite what facebook and the Daily Mail would like you to believe seagulls don't routinely kill cats/dogs and children are far more at risk of death or injury from swallowing discarded cigarette butts than they are from seagulls.

    FWIW the only reason we have so many seagulls in towns is because we already shot all the Red Kites.

    Get rid of the seagulls and I'll predict rat populations will explode.
    I don’t read the Mail and I’ve seen gulls swooping down aggressively and ripping food from people’s hands. You may be a fan but I’m not. They may have some benefits but they are a menace in many situations. At the football is one of them. I got shat on today - but only on the arm. That isn’t what turned me against them incidentally. I just think they’re a nuisance.

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