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    They donít go away though do they? They ease off a little but throughout the season itís a massive problem. I wouldnít go to the theatre and expect to not watch the show with fear of being shat on or bombed by birds, I pay money to go to ER to watch the football, today wasnít a Ďslight inconvenienceí it was a total pain in the arse. I get your probably some weird seagull enthusiast but that doesnít mean we sit back and accept the issue.
    Theatres are inside. Seagulls are outside. Easter Road is outside. Do you see how that works? The scrounging squirrels can be a pain at Bard in the Botanics mind you.

    Theatres also don't tend to have people frisbeeing their halfpizza because they can't be bothered to find a bin. (Though to be fair the ER pizza makes a better frisbee than it does a foodstuff)

    The solution is there if people want it enough.

    Personally I can take or leave gulls. I'd rather have red kites, but we shot all of them so here we are.

    The vast majority of the gulls will go away once the chicks fledge. The rest will be dead in the next couple of decades anyway.

    Then we can all moan about the rats.


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    The gulls and moved the problem on elsewhere for example Spring Gardens never had a problem until they started with those hawks/whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barcahibs View Post
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    The solution is there if people want it enough.
    A retractable roof? Would mean we need to fill the corners in also so I'm in.

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    They really were out in force today, worst I've seen and s****ing everywhere.
    I feel fortunate my seat is right at the back but others are not so lucky.

    I noticed recently in the livvy shopping centre up through the roof they have a mechanical hawk thing, it looks pretty cool, ......But how effective it is on deterring bigger birds like gulls, who knows.
    Its one up from a plastic owl :)

    Someone at the club should be looking for a solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanshow View Post
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    They really were out in force today, worst I've seen and s****ing everywhere.
    I feel fortunate my seat is right at the back but others are not so lucky.

    I noticed recently in the livvy shopping centre up through the roof they have a mechanical hawk thing, it looks pretty cool, ......But how effective it is on deterring bigger birds like gulls, who knows.
    Its one up from a plastic owl :)

    Someone at the club should be looking for a solution

    Fans need to complain to get action taken, fan also need to stop throwing unfinished food on the ground as well, parents take note.

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    Theatres are inside. Seagulls are outside. Easter Road is outside. Do you see how that works? The scrounging squirrels can be a pain at Bard in the Botanics mind you.

    Theatres also don't tend to have people frisbeeing their halfpizza because they can't be bothered to find a bin. (Though to be fair the ER pizza makes a better frisbee than it does a foodstuff)

    The solution is there if people want it enough.

    Personally I can take or leave gulls. I'd rather have red kites, but we shot all of them so here we are.

    The vast majority of the gulls will go away once the chicks fledge. The rest will be dead in the next couple of decades anyway.

    Then we can all moan about the rats.
    Yesterday had nothing to do with leftover food. There was none by 2.20 when I arrived but there was still hundreds of seagulls. If itís to do with nesting during the summer then the club need to do something to stop that. Also, unless the club put bins at each seat/row then rubbish will always get left under seats.

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    There was a sparrowhawk flew in during first half chasing a pigeon and that startled them as they buggered off up towards south stand for a bit !

    Give the sparrowhawk a 4yr contract.
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    Fans need to complain to get action taken, fan also need to stop throwing unfinished food on the ground as well, parents take note.
    Who has the disposable income to toss away food at the football? If Iíve spent £5.00 on a pie and hot beef drink you can be damn skippy Iím finishing the lot.
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    These threads happen every season.

    The seagulls are a nightmare and I fully agree itís a massive distraction when you just want to enjoy the football.

    Hibs should be doing something to help and the most simple thing is tell fans to not feed them and bin their waste properly.

    Ideally recycle which Iíve brought up on here before.

    Yesterday was horrendous and it wonít be 2 weeks till they are fixed it will be longer - itís the same every season.

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    The thing is, if people started putting their food in the bins you would have a thread on here saying people are getting up every 2 minutes to go to bins and getting in my way of the game.

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    Its 100% to do with food. The seagulls are only in cities at all because of the food waste we leave lying about. They should be on the coasts - but we've taken all their food away from there.

    There's not much the club can do. The seagulls see ER in the close season as one big empty cliff face, perfect for nesting. Then a couple of weeks later when the chicks are at their most vulnerable and the adults are half starved, a bunch of predators turn up and start throwing food around.

    You can't kill them or interfere with their nests. That's illegal (and also, i would hope, not "Hibs Class"))

    You could try netting or anti nesting spikes on the stadium roofs - that's very expensive.

    You could employ people to walk up and down the roofs and seat areas all day every day before the birds nest - again expensive.

    You could use noisemakers - i suspect the neighbours would complain, and they only work for so long anyway.

    You could try kites, plastic owls, robot hawks - they don't work unless they are constantly repositioned, again expensive.

    You could try getting in a company that flies birds of prey but ER is such a big area that again its going to be expensive and it probably won't work.

    Or fans could stop feeding them. But we've already established that's impossible.

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    Looked to be a nest in the East stand at the FF end, so based on that, they won't be going anywhere quickly.

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    Just neded a guy walking round with a big bird of prey on his arm like they did when I worked at kings cross. It should stop them I think. You can hire ppl for that.

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    Its 100% to do with food. The seagulls are only in cities at all because of the food waste we leave lying about. They should be on the coasts - but we've taken all their food away from there.

    There's not much the club can do. The seagulls see ER in the close season as one big empty cliff face, perfect for nesting. Then a couple of weeks later when the chicks are at their most vulnerable and the adults are half starved, a bunch of predators turn up and start throwing food around.

    You can't kill them or interfere with their nests. That's illegal (and also, i would hope, not "Hibs Class"))

    You could try netting or anti nesting spikes on the stadium roofs - that's very expensive.

    You could employ people to walk up and down the roofs and seat areas all day every day before the birds nest - again expensive.

    You could use noisemakers - i suspect the neighbours would complain, and they only work for so long anyway.

    You could try kites, plastic owls, robot hawks - they don't work unless they are constantly repositioned, again expensive.

    You could try getting in a company that flies birds of prey but ER is such a big area that again its going to be expensive and it probably won't work.

    Or fans could stop feeding them. But we've already established that's impossible.
    Our fans havenít been in the stadium since mid may. I was one of the first in on Sunday... so how can this be the fault of the fans? Mind boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by May2116 View Post
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    Our fans havenít been in the stadium since mid may. I was one of the first in on Sunday... so how can this be the fault of the fans? Mind boggling.
    Because they left a big empty stadium for several weeks- perfect for birds to nest in - and then turned up looking and acting like predators in front of birds with young. They then started throwing food about in front of half starved animals.

    I don't get what's so difficult to understand?

    I could try saying it in seagull?

    "Caw".

    It's a problem created by humans. If we didn't throw food about the gulls wouldnt be here at all. They'd be starving to death on sea cliffs.

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    Because they left a big empty stadium for several weeks- perfect for birds to nest in - and then turned up looking and acting like predators in front of birds with young. They then started throwing food about in front of half starved animals.

    I don't get what's so difficult to understand?

    I could try saying it in seagull?

    "Caw".

    It's a problem created by humans. If we didn't throw food about the gulls wouldnt be here at all. They'd be starving to death on sea cliffs.
    ĎActing like predatorsí - sitting in a football stadium watching a football match... Sooner the pests are all gone the better.

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    Am no a tree-hugging, grungy hippy type but I always marvel at the arrogance of our species as we lord it up, demanding the extermination (euphemistically referred to as Ďcontrolling numbersí) of other species that happen to annoy some of us.
    The birds have been around a lot longer than we have and will probably be here long after weíre gone...how dare they interrupt a game of football!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Sure there's gulls at Pittoders also.
    Aberdeen have a guy with a hawk. Saw him going round the pitch before the last match.

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    Its 100% to do with food. The seagulls are only in cities at all because of the food waste we leave lying about. They should be on the coasts - but we've taken all their food away from there.

    There's not much the club can do. The seagulls see ER in the close season as one big empty cliff face, perfect for nesting. Then a couple of weeks later when the chicks are at their most vulnerable and the adults are half starved, a bunch of predators turn up and start throwing food around.

    You can't kill them or interfere with their nests. That's illegal (and also, i would hope, not "Hibs Class"))

    You could try netting or anti nesting spikes on the stadium roofs - that's very expensive.

    You could employ people to walk up and down the roofs and seat areas all day every day before the birds nest - again expensive.

    You could use noisemakers - i suspect the neighbours would complain, and they only work for so long anyway.

    You could try kites, plastic owls, robot hawks - they don't work unless they are constantly repositioned, again expensive.

    You could try getting in a company that flies birds of prey but ER is such a big area that again its going to be expensive and it probably won't work.

    Or fans could stop feeding them. But we've already established that's impossible.
    In a nutshell

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    I'm sure I read somewhere that there was a machine you could get which played a high pitched sound of some kind which kept them away(?)

    The rubbish/food lying around probably doesn't help, but I don't know why there are so many of them and they are so bad.

    These machines should be banned.

    They generate noise pollution, horrendous things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by May2116 View Post
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    Yesterday had nothing to do with leftover food. There was none by 2.20 when I arrived but there was still hundreds of seagulls. If itís to do with nesting during the summer then the club need to do something to stop that. Also, unless the club put bins at each seat/row then rubbish will always get left under seats.
    Given one guy I spoke to recently tried to survey the roof nesting population of gulls within Edinburgh and came up with over 1000 prs and that gulls have been known to travel up to 50km for food (between London & a rubbish tip), how would the club do this?
    It is just financially not possible, even if they just restricted their efforts to Leith. That said they wouldn't be allowed to either as previously mentioned they ste protected.
    During the same conversation with the bloke who done the surveying he mentioned that the increase in the city breeding population's might not just be about food!
    It seems that there is a 5 degrees difference in temperature to being in the city rather than outside this means a brood is more likely to succeed.
    He also mentioned he was puzzled when doing his surveys that many nests were not located where you would expect, behind chimneys, in gutters and valleys etc, but jammed tight between the actual chimney pots!
    It wasn't until hearing about the links with temperature that he thought most likely these birds were there for that reason as the heat from gas fires etc rise up through these pots.
    As I say the gulls are here to sTay and we need to adapt our way of living to discourage them further.

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    The weird thing is they seemed bugger off at half time (in the FF at least) only to make a reappearance as soon as the second half was under way.
    i thought this was weird too. Maybe they were only there for the football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allezsauzee View Post
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    i thought this was weird too. Maybe they were only there for the football?
    They're not daft we're told.

    While everyone else is queueing for an overpriced pie that consists of cardboard, wallpaper paste and sawdust they nip off to Greggs and still get back in plenty time for second half dive bombing and generally taking the piss out of their evolutionary inferiors.

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