Sky sports news Celtic bid for McGinn turned down

[CapitalGreen]

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I don't understand your point about SB.

Hibs have won 3 Scottish and 3 League cups in our 147 year history. That suggests we're unlikely to win something.

The likelihood of winning a competition is determined by the relative strength of your squad to the other participants, not how you fared in the competition 100 years ago.

[Ringothedog]

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I don't understand your point about SB.

Hibs have won 3 Scottish and 3 League cups in our 147 year history. That suggests we're unlikely to win something.

It’s 143 years 😉

[brog]

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It’s 143 years 😉

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Yep, & the League Cup didn't exist for the first 71 years, otherwise it's a really good point.

[Eyrie]

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I don't understand your point about SB.

Hibs have won 3 Scottish and 3 League cups in our 147 year history. That suggests we're unlikely to win something.

And four league titles.

Otherwise it's a really good point

[Springbank]

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And four league titles.

Otherwise it's a really good point

and a Tennents Sixes
otherwise it's a really good point

[Bostonhibby]

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It’s 143 years

It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it.

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[ancient hibee]

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It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it.

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That’s what gets results.

[Speedy]

Does anyone have any links to quotes with SJM saying he wants to go to Celtic?

Seems to have become a .net fact

[Sergio sledge]

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There is absolutely no way Hibs will pay McGinn more money and then agree to sell him for less than they’ve turned down now.Why should they?He’s contracted to be here and is a good pro who won’t throw the toys out of the pram if he doesn’t move now.

Did we not do exactly this with Cummings? Decided another season with the player was worth more than what was being offered for him, but wanted to get something back when he did eventually leave, so convinced him to sign a new deal to ensure we got something even though it was less than what was being offered.

[Greenworld]

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Did we not do exactly this with Cummings? Decided another season with the player was worth more than what was being offered for him, but wanted to get something back when he did eventually leave, so convinced him to sign a new deal to ensure we got something even though it was less than what was being offered.

We did but that was to get promoted different scenario this time

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[Sergio sledge]

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We did but that was to get promoted different scenario this time

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Yeah, much easier to quantify the financial benefit of keeping the player in that case. There is a precedent though, the OP was saying that there's no way we would do something like that.

[lord bunberry]

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There is absolutely no way Hibs will pay McGinn more money and then agree to sell him for less than they’ve turned down now.Why should they?He’s contracted to be here and is a good pro who won’t throw the toys out of the pram if he doesn’t move now.

Is that not exactly what we did with Cummings?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Is that not exactly what we did with Cummings?

We don't actually know that.

Whilst we did get about £500k for him when he left, the Peterborough chairman reckons he cost Forest £1m. To what extent he is fibbing, or whether we got additional cash after a year or when he was capped, we will find out in our next accounts.

[lord bunberry]

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We don't actually know that.

Whilst we did get about £500k for him when he left, the Peterborough chairman reckons he cost Forest £1m. To what extent he is fibbing, or whether we got additional cash after a year or when he was capped, we will find out in our next accounts.

True, but I suspect that the Peterborough chairman has more to gain by exaggerating the worth of his new signing. If McGinn did sign a new deal with a £1.5m sell on clause, I don’t think hibs would be against that. We get him for another year and we get only 500k less than Celtic are offering now.

[Bostonhibby]

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True, but I suspect that the Peterborough chairman has more to gain by exaggerating the worth of his new signing. If McGinn did sign a new deal with a £1.5m sell on clause, I don’t think hibs would be against that. We get him for another year and we get only 500k less than Celtic are offering now.

Everyone in the upper echelons of posh for the last couple of decades has been somewhere between total slaivers and professional snake oil salesman but even a broken watch is right once so you never know.

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[lord bunberry]

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Everyone in the upper echelons of posh for the last couple of decades has been somewhere between total slaivers and professional snake oil salesman but even a broken watch is right once so you never know.

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Is Barry Fry still pissing in the corners?

[Bostonhibby]

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Is Barry Fry still pissing in the corners?

His presence is still there, which keeps quite a few neutrals elsewhere

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[poolman]

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and a Tennents Sixes
otherwise it's a really good point

2 drybourgh cups and a summer cup 😀

[Ringothedog]

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and a Tennents Sixes
otherwise it's a really good point

And 2 Drybrough cups otherwise it’s a really good point

[Springbank]

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And 2 Drybrough cups otherwise it’s a really good point

we seem to have more really good points than hearts and cove rangers combined

[BILLYHIBS]

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Is Barry Fry still pissing in the corners?

Lord Burnberry, it saddens me to say this but you will have to find a new sign off now that Simon Murray has departed for foreign shores. Perhaps there is inspiration in the current transfer window?


Girls don’t like boys girls like Simon Murray!

[Hibbyradge]

Right then ya bunch of bams on this thread

The Dryborough Cup, Spring Cup, Tenants sixes don't exist any more and Celtic aren't going to lose the league anytime soon otherwise all your points are very good too!

And you can add the Coronation Cup to that lot too.

The SC and LC are the only competitions we have a realistic chance of winning which is a very, very good point.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Right then ya bunch of bams on this thread

The Dryborough Cup, Spring Cup, Tenants sixes don't exist any more and Celtic aren't going to lose the league anytime soon otherwise all your points are very good too!

And you can add the Coronation Cup to that lot too.

The SC and LC are the only competitions we have a realistic chance of winning which is a very, very good point.

The East of Scotland Shield is still going.

How many times have Celtic won that, smartarse?

[lord bunberry]

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Lord Burnberry, it saddens me to say this but you will have to find a new sign off now that Simon Murray has departed for foreign shores. Perhaps there is inspiration in the current transfer window?


Girls don’t like boys girls like Simon Murray!

It took me ages to try and work out how to do that Simon Murray thing. I might just keep it in the hope that he returns . Either that or I will attempt in a rare moment of sobriety to change it, the former is currently the leading contender.

[Hibbyradge]

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The East of Scotland Shield is still going.

How many times have Celtic won that, smartarse?

[J-C]

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Is that not exactly what we did with Cummings?

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We don't actually know that.

Whilst we did get about £500k for him when he left, the Peterborough chairman reckons he cost Forest £1m. To what extent he is fibbing, or whether we got additional cash after a year or when he was capped, we will find out in our next accounts.

Funnily enough I bumped into his dad today and had a wee chat re Jason.

He stayed that one extra year to help Hibs get promotion but insisted in a clause in his contract at the end of the promotion year, this was met by Nottingham F. He was offered 10x his wages on moving, a sum you'll find hard to knock back, unfortunately Warburton preferred 1 up top and Jason likes playing with a strike partner. He's gone to Peterborough to get game time as they play a 4-4-2.

I asked him if Jason had any regrets about leaving too soon, his reply was not when someone offers to pay you 10 times your wages.

[DetroitHibs]

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There's a lot of teams leave it late - look at the activity on the day the transfer window shuts right up until the very last minute.

That would strongly suggest that this isn't a "Hibs thing" as many on here present it as but a wider issue in football.

Most likely many players and a fair few teams are looking for the bigger, better deal which, like it or not, Hibs are not going to be for players of the quality we want. Flo we played a blinder on with the loan deal and Mallan probably wanted back to Scotland and had no possibility of the OF or Aberdeen hence we were the best option.

Now, take MacLaren for example - it sounds as though he wants to play in England more than he wants to play at Hibs but that he wants to play for Hibs more than he wants to play (or not play) for Damstadt. It also sounds like we're in contact with him (and probably with others too).

It may be the case that there are 2 or 3 on an equal footing and whichever comes to fruition first is our new striker. It may be that we really want MacLaren and are not prepared to push other options through while there's still a chance of signing him. As it nears the end of the window Hibs become a more attractive proposition to MacLaren or getting a deal through may become a more attractive option to Hibs.

I suspect there's a lot of that kind of thing going on.

This is where we disagree. I think the club should push the boat out this season and splash the cash. We are sitting on a potential asset in John McGinn if he leaves and are recording record season ticket sales. Not only that, but actually getting in to Europe proper is a huge windfall also.

So no I don't think we should be signing players for the hell of it, but actually paying for good quality players. Like I said and you failed to mention. We are weaker now than when we ended the season. This competition should be given 100% priority right now.

[Just Jimmy]

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Funnily enough I bumped into his dad today and had a wee chat re Jason.

He stayed that one extra year to help Hibs get promotion but insisted in a clause in his contract at the end of the promotion year, this was met by Nottingham F. He was offered 10x his wages on moving, a sum you'll find hard to knock back, unfortunately Warburton preferred 1 up top and Jason likes playing with a strike partner. He's gone to Peterborough to get game time as they play a 4-4-2.

I asked him if Jason had any regrets about leaving too soon, his reply was not when someone offers to pay you 10 times your wages.

English football is ruined. if that's true, and even if Cummings was on £1k per week, then Forest who haven't won as much as a raffle for ages, and were a bit of a pickle a few years back, were paying Jason Cummings 10k per week.

No wonder we can't complete for players. it's a farce

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[Greenworld]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...ginn-1-4772885

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[ian cruise]

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This is where we disagree. I think the club should push the boat out this season and splash the cash. We are sitting on a potential asset in John McGinn if he leaves and are recording record season ticket sales. Not only that, but actually getting in to Europe proper is a huge windfall also.

So no I don't think we should be signing players for the hell of it, but actually paying for good quality players. Like I said and you failed to mention. We are weaker now than when we ended the season. This competition should be given 100% priority right now.

The only problem with approach of we are sitting on an asset with John McGinn is that he is an asset with a depreciating value. If no one comes in for him with an acceptable value most likely he's going nowhere and he leaves for free, leaving us to cover the money we spent from other revenue that we had intended for elsewhere. Its a gamble.

We don't even know we're guaranteed 2 million Celtic are reported to have offered as we knocked it back, so they could move on to other targets easily enough.