Sky sports news Celtic bid for McGinn turned down

[lord bunberry]

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We absolutely do have to sell if we want to build an indoor play area.

The house analogy doesn't work because you can stay in it for as long as you want. It isn't able to sign a pre-contract with another householder in January.

We're just repeating the same points but I'll ask this once again.

How much would people be prepared to pay in order to secure John McGinn's services for 8.5 months?

Because that is in effect what we would be doing if we keep him and let him walk for nothing next May.

I very much doubt that building an indoor playing area will be dependent on us selling McGinn. It’s a requirement for project brave, and I would be very surprised if the board signed up to brave without having a plan for funding the indoor area. There’s already talk of involving the local council and making it a community facility.
The club is being run by in a very professional manner and I doubt they would commit to a major plan in the hope that a player might be sold down the line.

[where'stheslope]

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In the real world McGinn cannot sign for them at Christmas. He can sign a pre contract agreement from January 2019 and join them in almost one year from now. As an aside it’s Celtic that give us the money not Mc Ginn and in the real world McGinn will no doubt end up signing for the side that offers him the best deal, and that may not turn out to be Celtic.

You've not grasped my point, Celtic can offer us £20 million tomorrow and John McGinn can say no thanks I'm staying, then come the next transfer window, sign a pre-contract agreement for them and we get nothing??????
And by that scenario, McGinn loses us money, but plays on for us for a further year, unless we come to an agreement for his last 6 months.

[superfurryhibby]

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You've not grasped my point, Celtic can offer us £20 million tomorrow and John McGinn can say no thanks I'm staying, then come the next transfer window, sign a pre-contract agreement for them and we get nothing??????
And by that scenario, McGinn loses us money, but plays on for us for a further year, unless we come to an agreement for his last 6 months.

Yes, I think I understand that.

My point is that he is contracted to Hibs for another season, he can sign pre contract with anyone he likes. We don’t lose him for nothing in January like you said, we lose him at the end of June 2019.

It’s been well discussed on here that declining to sell at the price supoosedly offered, minus St Mirren’s cut and other deductions, may not be a huge gamble for Hibs. Losing money is not a given in this scenario, if the side do well in fhe league, cup runs, europa run etc.

[Brooster]

I said in March £2.5m plus Allan plus 1 more on loan. I still stand by that. All this posturing is a sham.

[Stevie Reid]

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I said in March £2.5m plus Allan plus 1 more on loan. I still stand by that. All this posturing is a sham.

Would be a tremendous bit of business.

[H18 SFR]

Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

[Billy Whizz]

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Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

Hopefully been outbid by an English team

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

huffy gits

[SirDavidsNapper]

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Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

I'd be absolutely delighted if that's the case

[Heisenberg]

Using total guesswork I think he’ll be gone before Thursday.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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I'd be absolutely delighted if that's the case

All very well but what about Scott Allan? I want that lad pulling the strings in our midfield

[Waxy]

It’s all very well having an good relationship with a bigger club. We cant let them take the Mickey though. Perhaps an Other club will pay better wages to SJM than Celtic.

[green day]

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Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

Tell them that it's not a negotiation when you bid a pathetic amount in the full knowledge that it's way below the other parties expectation.

Negotiation is coming to an agreement acceptable to both parties.

About time these fannies got it through their thick skulls.

[Big_Franck]

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Tell them that it's not a negotiation when you bid a pathetic amount in the full knowledge that it's way below the other parties expectation.

Negotiation is coming to an agreement acceptable to both parties.

About time these fannies got it through their thick skulls.

100%. I hope they have given up with their shan offers. We'll have our best player for another year or we'll get good money from down south and won't have to watch him playing for them. **** Celtc.

[Sioux]

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Two Celtic minded mates hearing that Celtic have withdrawn from negotiations.

I'm sure this is nonsense. By all accounts there is nothing to negotiate. Either they pay what Hibs want or they don't.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Sorry if previously posted, but anyone else concerned that Celtic will to totally chuck the you out the pram over this?

We sell McGinn to an English club, but then they have a bitter and unrealistic price for Allan and any other future player of interest

Without using the words, would a lesser fee and player + loan be better to keep the “special relationship” with Celtic (I feel dirty just saying it) but they have a massive stranglehold over Scottish and the pool of talent within it, is it worth keep on their good side

Ducks and runs for cover

[B.H.F.C]

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Sorry if previously posted, but anyone else concerned that Celtic will to totally chuck the you out the pram over this?

We sell McGinn to an English club, but then they have a bitter and unrealistic price for Allan and any other future player of interest

Without using the words, would a lesser fee and player + loan be better to keep the “special relationship” with Celtic (I feel dirty just saying it) but they have a massive stranglehold over Scottish and the pool of talent within it, is it worth keep on their good side

Ducks and runs for cover

F*** Celtic and who cares what they think. We do what’s right for us.

[green day]

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Sorry if previously posted, but anyone else concerned that Celtic will to totally chuck the you out the pram over this?

We sell McGinn to an English club, but then they have a bitter and unrealistic price for Allan and any other future player of interest

Without using the words, would a lesser fee and player + loan be better to keep the “special relationship” with Celtic (I feel dirty just saying it) but they have a massive stranglehold over Scottish and the pool of talent within it, is it worth keep on their good side

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No. It's not a special relationship when one is a bully and one is subservient.

Ask Theresa May

[CropleyWasGod]

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No. It's not a special relationship when one is a bully and one is subservient.

Ask Theresa May

You never read 50 Shades?

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[jacomo]

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All very well but what about Scott Allan? I want that lad pulling the strings in our midfield

Looks like Stevie Mallan fancies that role.

[Keith_M]

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You never read 50 Shades?

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50 Shades of Orange?

[The_Horde]

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Looks like Stevie Mallan fancies that role.

Much better when he dropped deep on Thursday I thought. Scott Allan also played deeper last time he was here.

[Smartie]

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Sorry if previously posted, but anyone else concerned that Celtic will to totally chuck the you out the pram over this?

We sell McGinn to an English club, but then they have a bitter and unrealistic price for Allan and any other future player of interest

Without using the words, would a lesser fee and player + loan be better to keep the “special relationship” with Celtic (I feel dirty just saying it) but they have a massive stranglehold over Scottish and the pool of talent within it, is it worth keep on their good side

Ducks and runs for cover

They can then go try bullying someone else and see if they get away with it.

They might, they might not.

If we let them bully us now, they'll continue to do so.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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F*** Celtic and who cares what they think. We do what’s right for us.

But that’s my point

If keeping on side with them IS right for us then what

Ps I agree with your first sentence

[SouthMoroccoStu]

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They can then go try bullying someone else and see if they get away with it.

They might, they might not.

If we let them bully us now, they'll continue to do so.

But because of their power over Scottish football they will continue to bully us and anyone else who has a player they want

Least they haven’t gone gone the #handitin press route the Huns tried with Allan the first time round

[Smartie]

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But because of their power over Scottish football they will continue to bully us and anyone else who has a player they want

Least they haven’t gone gone the #handitin press route the Huns tried with Allan the first time round

If we don't give in to them when they try to get a bit wide with us (as they appear to be doing this time) then they might think twice about this being the best way to deal with us in future.

We've done well in our dealings with them in the recent past, as have they with us. If they want to continue to have a win/win relationship then they can continue as they have in the past.

If they want to try it on they can beat it.

All they have to do is pay the going rate for a talented young Internationalist, and allow us to pay the going rate for a fringe player of theirs who is realistically never going to make an impact on their first team.

[hibbydog]

Celtic can **** off for all I care.

Yes, I’d really love to see Scott Allan in a hibs strip again.

Yes, the St Mirren situation means it makes total sense to get players rather than money.

But we can’t be so subservient. If they offer something that is acceptable to us, then we can talk.

But if they’re going to insult us with derisory offers, they can do one. They’re not the only club with enough money for SJM.

Delighted that we have Dempster and Petrie fighting our corner.

We will get an outcome that’s best for us.

[Greenworld]

It's great stuff guessing however a fanatical hearts fan has said deal will be done tomorrow...I love it here said 3.6 million plus Allan is being offered tomorrow.
When I wake up sober let's see lol

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[superfurryhibby]

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Celtic can **** off for all I care.

Yes, I’d really love to see Scott Allan in a hibs strip again.

Yes, the St Mirren situation means it makes total sense to get players rather than money.

But we can’t be so subservient. If they offer something that is acceptable to us, then we can talk.

But if they’re going to insult us with derisory offers, they can do one. They’re not the only club with enough money for SJM.

Delighted that we have Dempster and Petrie fighting our corner.

We will get an outcome that’s best for us.

If players are included in the deal then their transfer values will be considered when taking into account money due to St Mirren.

[neil7908]

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But that’s my point

If keeping on side with them IS right for us then what

Ps I agree with your first sentence

It's a good question and this is where it comes into fans views versus the folk running the club who should be thinking coldly and logically about our long term future.

What is crucial is how much we value and want Scott Allan and how we hard we think it would be to bring in an equivalent player of his ability. If a team from England offer us £3m but Celtic come in with £2.5m plus Scott Allan then we have a decision. Allan probably isn't worth £500k but can we find a better attacking midfielder to bring in? If not then the best way things for the club would be to sell to Celtic.

Also, I have no love for them but I don't see them spitting the dummy out if we accepted as higher offer from somewhere else. That'll happen all the time in football and won't stop teams doing business with each other. It's only folk like Newco that tend to to act in that fashion I suspect.