Sky sports news Celtic bid for McGinn turned down

[cockneymike]

Anyone know what the rules are about being Cup tied for European games? I.e could SJM play for us in the first European game but still play for Celtic in CLthe qualifiers? I know it’s ok to play for different teams on qualifiers and the CL group stages. Just thinking it would be good to have him help us get the show on the road if unwashed haven’t yet come up with the right cash

[Ozyhibby]

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Anyone know what the rules are about being Cup tied for European games? I.e could SJM play for us in the first European game but still play for Celtic in CLthe qualifiers? I know it’s ok to play for different teams on qualifiers and the CL group stages. Just thinking it would be good to have him help us get the show on the road if unwashed haven’t yet come up with the right cash

If we are close to a deal we won’t risk an injury.


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[Jim44]

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If we are close to a deal we won’t risk an injury.


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If no deal is agreed we should play him. Resting him is a display of deference to Celtic and will encourage them to play hardball knowing we are about to ‘surrender’ to their conditions. It’s hardly a life threatening gamble, and so what if he picks up a couple of knocks? We need to be at full strength to ensure that our guys have not wasted their money on the Greek trip.

[iwasthere1972]

Can't we just sell him to Southampton and cut out the middle man?

[Jim44]

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Can't we just sell him to Southampton and cut out the middle man?

If we did that, I think we would risk not getting Allan at some point. OK, we might get more cash and no McGinn coming back to haunt us but I’d rather we had Allan and put up with McGinn for three or four games against Celtic each season.

[Bob Box Fish]

£2.75m and Scott Allan that’s the ticket 👍

[GloryGlory]

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If we did that, I think we would risk not getting Allan at some point. OK, we might get more cash and no McGinn coming back to haunt us but I’d rather we had Allan and put up with McGinn for three or four games against Celtic each season.

With the signing of Kamberi (and also possibly Maclaren), our recruitment team has shown it can find and identify talent. If we didn't get Scott Allan, I'd be reasonably confident that we could identify another player for that position.

[Speedy]

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If we did that, I think we would risk not getting Allan at some point. OK, we might get more cash and no McGinn coming back to haunt us but I’d rather we had Allan and put up with McGinn for three or four games against Celtic each season.

Why would Celtic refuse to sell us Allan? He's clearly not in their plans

[brog]

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With the signing of Kamberi (and also possibly Maclaren), our recruitment team has shown it can find and identify talent. If we didn't get Scott Allan, I'd be reasonably confident that we could identify another player for that position.

We probably already have 2 in Mallan & Swanson. I doubt we'll get better on the open market but Scotty is a must for me.

[CMurdoch]

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Can't we just sell him to Southampton and cut out the middle man?

[Jim44]

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Why would Celtic refuse to sell us Allan? He's clearly not in their plans

Are you telling me that Lawwell and Celtic wouldn’t stoop to pettiness if they didn’t get their way in signing McGinn? Whether he is or isn’t in their plans they could very well stand in his way of moving to us, even if it was cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[3pm]

Is McGinn due money from this?

[Hibbyradge]

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Are you telling me that Lawwell and Celtic wouldn’t stoop to pettiness if they didn’t get their way in signing McGinn? Whether he is or isn’t in their plans they could very well stand in his way of moving to us, even if it was cutting off their nose to spite their face.

I don't think they would be spiteful if we kept them informed of what was happening.

If we get a bigger bid elsewhere and they don't want to match or better it, there should be no problem.

[AlbertK86]

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Is McGinn due money from this?

Yep he gets a percentage


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[J-C]

I'm always amazed at the number of people on here with inside information regarding players contracts and possible clauses in future contracts, these players must be such blabbermouths telling every Tom, Dick and Harry about detail in their contracts.

[Greenworld]

https://celtsarehere.com/celtic-set-...eal-this-week/

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[SirDavidsNapper]

£3m plus Scott Allan and a hefty sell on clause. I'd be happy with that. When he inevitability goes to Southampton we'll make a fortune.

[franks]

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Can't we just sell him to Southampton and cut out the middle man?

Brilliant.

[Jim44]

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I don't think they would be spiteful if we kept them informed of what was happening.

If we get a bigger bid elsewhere and they don't want to match or better it, there should be no problem.

I hope you’re right, but nothing surprises me in our football backwater.

[keep the faith]

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With the signing of Kamberi (and also possibly Maclaren), our recruitment team has shown it can find and identify talent. If we didn't get Scott Allan, I'd be reasonably confident that we could identify another player for that position.

I'm not. Sorry but players like Scott Allan don't come around very often.

[Springbank]

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https://celtsarehere.com/celtic-set-...eal-this-week/

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i surprise myself saying this but that report seems plausible and the outcome would be fairly satisfactory, if it pans out that way

[J-C]

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I'm not. Sorry but players like Scott Allan don't come around very often.

Fortunately Allan has never really produced it anywhere else except here, if he had he'd be outwith our budget.

[Heisenberg]

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I'm always amazed at the number of people on here with inside information regarding players contracts and possible clauses in future contracts, these players must be such blabbermouths telling every Tom, Dick and Harry about detail in their contracts.

Bit like you with the JC deal then eh?

[Speedy]

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Are you telling me that Lawwell and Celtic wouldn’t stoop to pettiness if they didn’t get their way in signing McGinn? Whether he is or isn’t in their plans they could very well stand in his way of moving to us, even if it was cutting off their nose to spite their face.

I don't think they would. Get themselves say £250k plus saving the same again in wages rather than waiting for him to leave for nothing in 12 months.

Would be different if we flat out refused to sell to Celtic but if they are simply outbid it would be fine.

[J-C]

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Bit like you with the JC deal then eh?

Only thing in that was the fact his dad is a very good mate, I had no info re his wages at the time, I was just told it was a £500k get out clause.

Apart from that I have zero knowledge when it comes to wages etc unless it's from Football Manager

[blackpoolhibs]

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Only thing in that was the fact his dad is a very good mate, I had no info re his wages at the time, I was just told it was a £500k get out clause.

Apart from that I have zero knowledge when it comes to wages etc unless it's from Football Manager

Cant say i have ever seen you post anything on this subject in the past J-C.

[CapitalGreen]

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Anyone know what the rules are about being Cup tied for European games? I.e could SJM play for us in the first European game but still play for Celtic in CLthe qualifiers? I know it’s ok to play for different teams on qualifiers and the CL group stages. Just thinking it would be good to have him help us get the show on the road if unwashed haven’t yet come up with the right cash

Cup tied rule no longer exists in European competition.

[J-C]

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Cant say i have ever seen you post anything on this subject in the past J-C.

Hahaha the one and only real bit of ITK I've ever had, you'll hear about it for years to come

[Diclonius]

Looks like it might be the same as the original Allan transfer - Celtic pay a reduced fee but allow Allan to come to us for nothing, as with McGeouch in 2015.

[Hermit Crab]

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Looks like it might be the same as the original Allan transfer - Celtic pay a reduced fee but allow Allan to come to us for nothing, as with McGeouch in 2015.

We paid money for McGeouch.