Sky sports news Celtic bid for McGinn turned down

***bingo70*** · 05-07-2018 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by SeanWilson

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If SJM was tied to is for 4 years or so, I could see us holding off and telling most bids to get Tae... In the current scenario where he can essentially go on a free as of Jan...makes sense for us to take what we can get. Get your point re difference in fee though, just the sad state of reality.

He can't go for free in January, any club that wants him for free or doesnt want to meet our asking price will need to wait a full season. That's no good to a manager or club that want him now.

At this stage I still don't think there's much relevance to him being out of contract next summer.

**BegbieHSC** · 05-07-2018 03:58 PM

Alan Nixon says Mallan will be in, once McGinn is sorted. Allan part of the deal

**~~IGRIGI~~** · 05-07-2018 04:00 PM

If Mcginn goes and Allan and Malian come in I'll be happy with that.

With Swanson and Slivka in there also we'd be looking healthy in the midfield.

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2018 04:01 PM

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Alan Nixon says Mallan will be in, once McGinn is sorted. Allan part of the deal

Very happy with that.

**BegbieHSC** · 05-07-2018 04:01 PM

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Alan Nixon says Mallan will be in, once McGinn is sorted. Allan part of the deal

Realize my post sounds a lot more certain than he actually is. He’s hinting it’s more likely opposed to definitely.

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2018 04:01 PM

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Realize my post sounds a lot more certain than he is. He’s hinting it’s more likely than definitely.

Ah ok - would be very happy with that!

**BegbieHSC** · 05-07-2018 04:05 PM

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If Mcginn goes and Allan and Malian come in I'll be happy with that.

With Swanson and Slivka in there also we'd be looking healthy in the midfield.

Yip! Huge season for Slivka. Reckon he’ll come into his own, and be a key player this season.

***wookie70*** · 05-07-2018 04:22 PM

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2m for the player and another £500k for the song that those muppets will ultimately steal when he does sign.

That's a bit cheeky given we stole the song

**Michael** · 05-07-2018 04:46 PM

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That's a bit cheeky given we stole the song

If St. Mirren really did invent the song then they'll get their share of the song money too.

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2018 04:47 PM

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If St. Mirren really did invent the song then they'll get their share of the song money too.

Was an Arsenal one for Ozil, I think?

**WoreTheGreen** · 05-07-2018 04:51 PM

Sure it hertz about Molly Martin can’t remember or know to spell his name

**Titch** · 05-07-2018 04:54 PM

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Was an Arsenal one for Ozil, I think?

Was it no West Ham for payet??

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2018 04:56 PM

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Was it no West Ham for payet??

Could be. Someone told me it was Ozil but it's been sung for a few players.

***Jonnyboy*** · 05-07-2018 04:59 PM

Pretty sure it started with Will Grigg

***Billy Whizz*** · 05-07-2018 05:02 PM

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Pretty sure it started with Will Grigg

His song was the Stokes/Keatings song I thought?
Stokesy’s on fire

**Springbank** · 05-07-2018 05:10 PM

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Pretty sure it started with Will Grigg

way out. it was Mickey Weir

**WeeRussell** · 05-07-2018 05:11 PM

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Could be. Someone told me it was Ozil but it's been sung for a few players.

First song to the tune I was aware of was “don’t sack Mackay” re Malky by cardiff (before the scandal)

May well have been sung about a few players prior to that!

***snooky*** · 05-07-2018 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by MyJo

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50 shades of David Gray.....coming soon

Pun intended!

And the Kamberi Sutra

**SeanWilson** · 05-07-2018 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by bingo70

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He can't go for free in January, any club that wants him for free or doesnt want to meet our asking price will need to wait a full season. That's no good to a manager or club that want him now.

At this stage I still don't think there's much relevance to him being out of contract next summer.

Any club that wants him can have him for free in January... Waiting is a separate issue.

**ElginHibbie** · 05-07-2018 05:26 PM

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Any club that wants him can have him for free in January... Waiting is a separate issue.

Norwich could have had Maclean for free ion January but they still paid Aberdeen something, very weird situation like but if McGinn wants to be sure us and St Mirren get something could happen

Would be for a lot less money though

***CropleyWasGod*** · 05-07-2018 05:52 PM

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Any club that wants him can have him for free in January... Waiting is a separate issue.

They can have his promise in January to join them for free, but he won't join them until the end of the season.

If he really wanted to sign for them in January, there would be a fee.

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***bingo70*** · 05-07-2018 05:57 PM

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Any club that wants him can have him for free in January... Waiting is a separate issue.

No they can’t.

He’s contracted to us until next summer.

**SeanWilson** · 05-07-2018 06:13 PM

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They can have his promise in January to join them for free, but he won't join them until the end of the season.

If he really wanted to sign for them in January, there would be a fee.

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Obviously haven't been clear enough. I know this... Essentially can be had for free in January so long as they're willing to wait... Hence why I think we will try and command a fee this window. My point was more around the fact we are up against this scenario with regards to what we actually hold out for.

**SeanWilson** · 05-07-2018 06:14 PM

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No they can’t.

He’s contracted to us until next summer.

Yes, they can!

**ancient hibee** · 05-07-2018 06:15 PM

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Any club that wants him can have him for free in January... Waiting is a separate issue.

Sorry but that's rubbish.He's contracted to Hibs.

***bingo70*** · 05-07-2018 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by SeanWilson

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Yes, they can!

I’m going to assume you know the contractual status and we’re splitting hairs in the wording.

The reality is if another club wants him they can’t buy him and play him in January for free, they’d need to wait until next summer, by which point the manager could have left, they could have got relegated, another club could have signed him, he may have signed a new contract with us, he could get injured, the club after him may have missed their target for the year by a small margin.

All in all a year is a lifetime in football for a team/manager and there’s so many variables that could happen between now and next summer a team is unlikely to wait that long to sign him, if they do plan on doing that another club will probably nip in first to get him.

I stand by my opinion that the fact he’s out of contract next summer is neither here nor there and won’t have much influence on his value this summer.

***Tynie01011973*** · 05-07-2018 06:24 PM

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Yes, they can!

No they can't!

He can only sign a Pre-Contract agreement in January to join the new club once his existing contract expires next summer

**SeanWilson** · 05-07-2018 06:49 PM

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I’m going to assume you know the contractual status and we’re splitting hairs in the wording.

The reality is if another club wants him they can’t buy him and play him in January for free, they’d need to wait until next summer, by which point the manager could have left, they could have got relegated, another club could have signed him, he may have signed a new contract with us, he could get injured, the club after him may have missed their target for the year by a small margin.

All in all a year is a lifetime in football for a team/manager and there’s so many variables that could happen between now and next summer a team is unlikely to wait that long to sign him, if they do plan on doing that another club will probably nip in first to get him.

I stand by my opinion that the fact he’s out of contract next summer is neither here nor there and won’t have much influence on his value this summer.

Yes mate, splitting hairs. I just worded my first post wrongly. I'm perfectly aware of the permutations, however fact of the matter is... Anyone can have SJM for free in January, should he and said club be willing to let him play out the rest of the season with us.