Yes it is. If he’s gone out and went about getting booked then fine that’s on him. He’s now asked a ref to go and book him. That’s cheating!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: Corruption In The Game.
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28-06-2018 09:01 PM #31
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28-06-2018 09:02 PM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 09:07 PM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Corruption would be the ref booking him for no reason because he wanted him to miss a crucial game or be available for a crucial game.
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28-06-2018 09:10 PM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 09:15 PM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 09:19 PM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The ref though should be struck off (although I assume retired) but also showing such poor conduct could have an effect on future employment as his integrity is called into serious question
the player is a twat for asking, he could have got himself booked without needing to ask about it. Presumably it was Rudi Skacel.
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28-06-2018 09:22 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 09:29 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You would expect better from a referee, but for some players you can kind of understand if they come from a 'deprived' background, leave school early and find themselves earning obscene money.
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28-06-2018 09:45 PM #41
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Corruption is how most sports are generally run now!
Qatar got the world cup with alot of brown envelopes.
However....what is classed as corruption in sport?
England in a sense bribed Thailand for the 2022 vote.
Thailand did NOT vote England.....So England never went through with the game in Bangkok!
What scale is bribery acceptable?
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28-06-2018 09:48 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
IMO I would be surprised if refs I have seen are corrupt, but I wouldnt rule it out. Yes they make poor decisions. However we cant just say they are all corrupt just because we have seen a few poor decisions.
These guys have to make split second decisions that fans cant agree on even with multi angle slow motion replays.
There is more likely to be some unconscious, or even conscious, bias. But is that corruption ?
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28-06-2018 09:50 PM #43
Corruption is a form of dishonesty undertaken by a person entrusted with a position of authority, often to acquire personal benefit.
There was no dishonesty in the example quoted and there is as yet no evidence of acquiring personal benefit.
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28-06-2018 09:53 PM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I still don’t think this example was one of corruption either, if it was what did the ref get out of it? Surely for it to be corrupt the ref would have to benefit from making an alternative decision without undue incentive?
Seems a fairly normal conversation to me.....”book me ref”......”can’t book you for nothing pal, you’ll need to boot the ball awaynor something”.....,”good idea”
Maybe a bit naive by the ref but don’t see the problem, would rather a player got deliberately boooed for booting a ball away than risking hurting someone with a dodgy foul.
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28-06-2018 09:56 PM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Thats how Matt Le Tissier lost a fortune.
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28-06-2018 10:00 PM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 10:03 PM #47This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Been involved in many a bust up with Refs. I was once sent from the dugout by a ref I had history with. I asked why and was told just to go. Afterwards they made up some story between them that got me a six game ban. Some of them are corrupt at EVERY LEVEL.
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28-06-2018 10:08 PM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Having many a dust up with refs says to me you’re too quick to challenge them. They’re not professionals, they don’t have TV replays, just a bunch of amateurs giving up their time so games of football can go ahead.
That’s not corruption, sounds like they just thought you were a dick.
No offence
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28-06-2018 10:20 PM #49
Only happens with foreign refs. Scottish refs are all honest as the day is long.
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28-06-2018 10:38 PM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 10:43 PM #51
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28-06-2018 10:49 PM #52
Players like Bobby Thomson and his ilk didn’t need to liaise with referees to ensure a booking or two. To claim corruption is just a wee bit over the top for me.
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29-06-2018 12:14 AM #53This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-06-2018 12:50 AM #54
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I just do not understand why he even needed to ask ref, there are loads of things you can get booked for and dissent is pretty easy and simple to do without asking ref.
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29-06-2018 08:12 AM #55
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Taking the bold part separately, a little voice keeps saying to me "What if the ref is making this up or embellishing what really happened to stoke up a bit of controversy and get him on a few more telly shows? Or maybe he has an upcoming book to promote" .
Just call me Mr Cynical.
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29-06-2018 08:41 AM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I would always challenge them on big calls when I felt my team were getting a **** decision. Problem is they don't like explaining and justifying them. How long does it take to explain a massive call in a game? 5-10 seconds? Nah, some of them think it's all about them. Arrogant twats. Some of them are fantastic. Got on great with those ones. The ones who took the time out to explain decisions, not just to me but the players as well. So yeah I'll stick by my assessment of officials and say the arrogant ones who thought I was a dick, the feeling was mutual.
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