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    Pedophile hunting groups

    See there is a relatively new peado hunting group in Scotland (the first one in Scotland I think), Wolfpack Hunters.

    For those who don't know, basically these groups set up fake accounts online, pretending to be underage kids and catching online groomers. They film the stings when they go and meet the offenders. They don't entrap the offenders, they make it clear to them that they are underage and then from there they see if the offender continues to groom.

    Personally think these groups are great. Caught so many preditors. Online grooming is a growing problem and these vile people need caught before any real child is harmed. Only thing i would say is that the videos should not be uploaded to social media UNTIL the trial has taken place and the person has been found guilty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 21.05.2016 View Post
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    See there is a relatively new peado hunting group in Scotland (the first one in Scotland I think), Wolfpack Hunters.

    For those who don't know, basically these groups set up fake accounts online, pretending to be underage kids and catching online groomers. They film the stings when they go and meet the offenders. They don't entrap the offenders, they make it clear to them that they are underage and then from there they see if the offender continues to groom.

    Personally think these groups are great. Caught so many preditors. Online grooming is a growing problem and these vile people need caught before any real child is harmed. Only thing i would say is that the videos should not be uploaded to social media UNTIL the trial has taken place and the person has been found guilty.
    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21.05.2016 View Post
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    See there is a relatively new peado hunting group in Scotland (the first one in Scotland I think), Wolfpack Hunters.

    For those who don't know, basically these groups set up fake accounts online, pretending to be underage kids and catching online groomers. They film the stings when they go and meet the offenders. They don't entrap the offenders, they make it clear to them that they are underage and then from there they see if the offender continues to groom.

    Personally think these groups are great. Caught so many preditors. Online grooming is a growing problem and these vile people need caught before any real child is harmed. Only thing i would say is that the videos should not be uploaded to social media UNTIL the trial has taken place and the person has been found guilty.
    I like the Walter Mitty hunters, they out folk who pretend to have served in the forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Hear hear. Are we to become a nation of vigilantes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Agreed. Thereís one that pops up on my Facebook from time to time called Edinburgh Exposed. They donít put up any evidence, they just put up a photo of someone, their name, area they live and put up a wee paragraph about what theyíve allegedly done. I wouldnít be surprised if theyíre just taking peopleís word for it and folk are direct messaging them fake stories about people they donít like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Which rules out Americans (and Mibbes Aye based on his spelling of "pediatrician").

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    Agreed.

    And how do these people know they're not interfering with on going official investigations that may even be international?
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    Agreed.

    And how do these people know they're not interfering with on going official investigations that may even be international?
    Anything I have ever read about the police attitude to groups like that has always been guarded. Along the lines of "public assistance is welcome, but leave it to us, please."

    There was an incident in Glasgow recently where a "target" was confronted by such a group. He panicked, drove away and, in the course of that, ran into a young girl. The argument is that, without their involvement, she wouldn't have been injured.

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    Check out "Chris Hansen vs predator" on YouTube, the guy is the alpha on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    Check out "Chris Hansen vs predator" on YouTube, the guy is the alpha on this
    ďTo catch a predatorĒ I believe is the name of the show.

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    Iíve always thought there was something a bit sinister about these groups. Just donít believe their only motivation is protecting children. If it was, they could just report their findings to police and not post on Facebook.

    As others have said, they could well be interfering with ongoing investigations. That, and they have no clue about how evidence should be properly gathered.

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    I realise we can't turn into a society full of vigilantes and go around taking the law into our own hands but these guys are very careful to stay within the law. They know that the case is ****ed if they step outside the law. It's a good way of catching these cretins and they have been successful in catching many which can only be a good thing.

    I agree with the point that there probably is a bit of "oh look at us, we're heroes" about it but so what, it's getting predators caught and that's the main thing. There are some real monsters out there that, if they did meet a real child, would do a lot of harm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
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    Iíve always thought there was something a bit sinister about these groups. Just donít believe their only motivation is protecting children. If it was, they could just report their findings to police and not post on Facebook.

    As others have said, they could well be interfering with ongoing investigations. That, and they have no clue about how evidence should be properly gathered.
    Agree something sinister about the groups, almost like they are getting enjoyment out of the 'sting' and pretending to be a young girl/boy.

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    Do some of them not work alongside police?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Personally, I'd prefer to trust my law enforcement to the professionals.

    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    After all the cover ups they have done over the years...are you for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    Do some of them not work alongside police?
    Unsure. I do know in NZ that Police do basically what these guys are doing anyway. Iím sure itís the same in the UK. These groups like to portray themselves as doing work Police arenít doing but I donít believe thatís the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    After all the cover ups they have done over the years...are you for real?
    Who are "they"?

    The professionals or the decent spellers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    And those than can spell "paedophile" correctly.

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    What about people that have trouble spelling that? ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    What about people that have trouble spelling that? ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The worst of the wurst.

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    Quite right, my old sausage!

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    Quite right, my old sausage!
    You got a link to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Who are "they"?

    The professionals or the decent spellers?

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    http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016...-police-chief/

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31907201

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...201.html%3famp


    A ten second google search returns so many examples itís hard to know where to start.

    Letís be honest the Ďestablishmentí be that the police or countless other institutions have been covering up this type of abuse for decades.

    Iím not comfortable with vigilantes and even more so when it involves posing as under age children but to suggest we can just leave it to the police is rather ignoring their and others massive failings in this area...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016...-police-chief/

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31907201

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...201.html%3famp


    A ten second google search returns so many examples itís hard to know where to start.

    Letís be honest the Ďestablishmentí be that the police or countless other institutions have been covering up this type of abuse for decades.

    Iím not comfortable with vigilantes and even more so when it involves posing as under age children but to suggest we can just leave it to the police is rather ignoring their and others massive failings in this area...
    My post wasn't really serious. I knew what he meant. ☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    You got a link to that?

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    As long as he doesn't have a link to my young sausage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    My post wasn't really serious. I knew what he meant. ☺

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    Aaah sorry, rather missed that 🤪

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    An example that came up on my timeline yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/weejohnhoyayee/s...709276160?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    An example that came up on my timeline yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/weejohnhoyayee/s...709276160?s=21
    A cringeworthy watch all round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-O View Post
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    A cringeworthy watch all round.
    Not great at all.

    The guy obviously knows heís ****ed it cause he is shaking like a leaf.
    Horrendous really. I wouldnít say with confidence that he was going to do it, but itís hard to ignore what he had already done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    An example that came up on my timeline yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/weejohnhoyayee/s...709276160?s=21
    I really don't know what to make of that, it's extremely uncomfortable to watch that's for sure.
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