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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentinted View Post
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    I’ve heard it mentioned that perhaps it would be better to do away with the concept of ‘intent’ when interpreting whether or not a handball is deemed ‘deliberate’ and a way round this would be to make all handballs punishable by a penalty (when in the box).
    While I’m always skeptical as to having a match official (or anyone) applying their mind-reading skills (who can really say what the intentions of another person are?), I fear that attacking players would then deliberately attempt to play the ball to the defenders hand/arm.

    The problem I can see with that is a lot of players deliberately kicking the ball toward a defenders arms, knowing full well that, if they get lucky, they'll get a penalty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    The problem I can see with that is a lot of players deliberately kicking the ball toward a defenders arms, knowing full well that, if they get lucky, they'll get a penalty.
    Might solve the perceived problem of Lewie always hitting the first man.

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    The problem I can see with that is a lot of players deliberately kicking the ball toward a defenders arms, knowing full well that, if they get lucky, they'll get a penalty.
    Exactly, and all the technology in the world would be hard pushed to find away to legislate for/against this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Might solve the perceived problem of Lewie always hitting the first man.
    He could end up with a world record in assists in one season.......

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    I do like VAR but for me the one flaw it has is, if this World Cup is an example, it's going to make 'Accidental hand-ball' obsolete !

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    the penalty decision is a joke - framce player gets a touch and hits Perisic whos about 2 yards away, on the way down from a jump - shocking decision by the ref (not VAR)

    Also a shocking decision for the first.....and I was surprised that VAR didn't look at Pogba being offside from teh Griezmann free kick?

    I shouted it straight away when I seen the first replay - was in a packed boozer though - so was he offside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    the penalty decision is a joke - framce player gets a touch and hits Perisic whos about 2 yards away, on the way down from a jump - shocking decision by the ref (not VAR)

    Also a shocking decision for the first.....and I was surprised that VAR didn't look at Pogba being offside from teh Griezmann free kick?

    I shouted it straight away when I seen the first replay - was in a packed boozer though - so was he offside?
    Did he touch the ball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Did he touch the ball?
    no -but he competed for it right behind Mandzukik

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    For what it's worth, I watched the match with about 20 (French) mates. About 75% of them didn't think it was a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    no -but he competed for it right behind Mandzukik
    A player is only offside if he becomes "active".

    I don't think you can become active until the ball arrives and Mandzukik's touch played him on anyway.

    I've just looked at the goal again and I'm not sure he was behind the defender. More in line with him, unless he can score with his arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    S player is only offside if he becomes "active".

    I don't think you can become active until the ball arrives and Mandzukik's touch played him on anyway.

    I've just looked at the goal again and I'm not sure he was behind the defender. More in line with him, unless he can score with his arse.

    https://youtu.be/sp5T6m1bc8Q
    if any part of your body that you can score with (including his erchie :-D) is behind the last defender, hes off

    Pogba made an attempt to play the ball, which makes him active- so hes offside (if indeed he was initially) - I expected it to be looked at closer, but seemed to have been brushed over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    the penalty decision is a joke - framce player gets a touch and hits Perisic whos about 2 yards away, on the way down from a jump - shocking decision by the ref (not VAR)

    Also a shocking decision for the first.....and I was surprised that VAR didn't look at Pogba being offside from teh Griezmann free kick?

    I shouted it straight away when I seen the first replay - was in a packed boozer though - so was he offside?
    More in line than anything, certainly not "clear mistake".

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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    More in line than anything, certainly not "clear mistake".
    doesnt have to be a clear mistake for offside - either hes off or he isnt

    I expected to see a camera angle side on with the (hopefully straight) VAR lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    the penalty decision is a joke - framce player gets a touch and hits Perisic whos about 2 yards away, on the way down from a jump - shocking decision by the ref (not VAR)

    Also a shocking decision for the first.....and I was surprised that VAR didn't look at Pogba being offside from teh Griezmann free kick?

    I shouted it straight away when I seen the first replay - was in a packed boozer though - so was he offside?

    exactly, what the **** is the defender supposed to do, the french player ducked as well, and don't get me started on the griezman diving, horrible little cheat, sometimes the players forget there's 40 cameras watching absolutely everything, shameful behaviour

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