I'm liking it so far. Delays are minimal and wrongs have been righted.
View Poll Results: Do you think VAR at the world cup is a success or failure?
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Thread: World Cup VAR
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18-06-2018 02:07 PM #1
World Cup VAR
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18-06-2018 02:19 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's only when there's a clear mistake that the ref is asked to look again.
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18-06-2018 02:50 PM #4
I like it, but I can't see it being widely implemented outside of an international tournament (aside from perhaps the Champions League).
The cost (financial and personnel) of having something like this across all levels of the game would be prohibitive.
I still feel a few decisions have either been overlooked or incorrectly awarded (the penalty for France vs Australia for example wasn't clear cut IMO, but then I'm not a professional referee, and it WAS reviewed by a panel of them), but in the instances of Sweden's penalty for example, it protected against a gross injustice.
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18-06-2018 02:53 PM #5
a wrong wasn't righted last night with the clear push by the swiss gadgy with the equaliser, cheating VAR git Failure :)
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"The Miranda moment was very clear. The second play you can interpret but the first one you can't discuss - the people responsible for that must work within fairness. You have to be fair.
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18-06-2018 02:58 PM #7
Long over due to have technology.
I still would have officialls looking at video replays make the decisions rather than the ref stopping the game and going across to side of pitch to have a look.
Rugby have it spot on with TMO and football still needs to give the refs microphones so they can explain decisions throughout games.
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18-06-2018 02:59 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-06-2018 03:01 PM #9
Really dislike it, and most of the stuff it is used for is still subjective anyway.
Goal line technology is all we needed.
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18-06-2018 03:02 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
How is that better?
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18-06-2018 03:03 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-06-2018 03:05 PM #12
It's been more of a success than failure but I still don't like it, still stand by it will make the game too clinical the more it's refined and worked on, grey areas are part of what makes the game, I don't want it black and white
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18-06-2018 03:10 PM #13
I like it, although they do seem to be a bit slapdash in whats reviewed or not, im not sure it is.
I know radge said everything is reviewed, but there was a clear penalty in the Argentina game where we all thought it was a dive, apart from the player who was after watching the replay clearly chopped down.
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18-06-2018 03:12 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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18-06-2018 03:19 PM #15
VAR aside does anyone else think there will be a lot more penalties awarded domestically next season?
Seems the refs have been instructed to be particularly vigilant on the holding and pushing going on at set pieces/corners etc.
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18-06-2018 03:25 PM #16
I despise it. Another step to making it a sanitised sport for the rugby and cricket crowd.
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18-06-2018 03:28 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you mean that VAR was used to correctly award a penalty today? Fair enough - the referee and linesman should easily have been able to make that call though.
I don't like the addition of VAR to football. Goals are the most important thing in football, so I'm happy for technology to be used to determine if the ball crossed the line or not. I don't like it for subjective things.
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18-06-2018 03:30 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Plus there's a welcome side effect in that it'll make it a lot harder for referees to be accused of cheating.
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18-06-2018 03:35 PM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Goals ARE the most important thing, and penalties are a signficant opportunity to score one - when they're marginal, or unclear, and are either wrongly awarded/not-awarded, they can have massive financial ramifications.
So getting those decisions correct is every bit as important as goalline technology IMO - use of VAR for every single throw-in, free kick, injury etc? Yeah, it could become excessive. But if it cuts out cheating, accusations of cheating, missing critical decisions, it's a good thing.
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18-06-2018 03:36 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maradona would have been sent off for the hand of god incident if they had VAR.
People might enjoy England's misfortune, but it was blatant cheating.
Same for the Thierry Henry hand balls against Ireland. I'm glad some of the cheating will be stopped.
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18-06-2018 03:39 PM #21
Limited success for me, I think it needs a few tweaks.
I could see why the ref didn't give what was a stonewaller for Sweden, because on first sight it looked (to me) like the Korean had got the ball first, but on seeing the other angle it was a clear penalty. On the downside South Korea were on the attack when the game was stopped - if they'd got the ball upfield a bit quicker and scored there could have been a few problems. Likewise a booking or sending off offence in what is effectively a void passage of play eg handling the ball on the line at the other end.
I still wonder if an appeal system might work - Sweden would have made some sort of official appeal (like time outs in the American game) and the game is stopped immediately until the ref see the video and then makes his decision. That would carry its own problems which would have to be ironed out but to my mind voiding out a whole sequence of play doesn't hang right.
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18-06-2018 04:05 PM #27This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And I'd also ask you to not be so patronising towards fans of other sports, we're all Hibees on here (well most of us!).
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18-06-2018 04:15 PM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nothing better than the debates of was it or was it not a goal/penalty/red card that comes from human decisions in the heat of the moment.
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18-06-2018 04:16 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
would they just not have been yellows?
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18-06-2018 04:30 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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