World Cup VAR

[JeMeSouviens]

I'm liking it so far. Delays are minimal and wrongs have been righted.

[scuttle]

Not for me so far, some incidents not getting reviewed so too inconsistent

[Hibbyradge]

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Not for me so far, some incidents not getting reviewed so too inconsistent

Every incident is automatically reviewed.

It's only when there's a clear mistake that the ref is asked to look again.

[Sylar]

I like it, but I can't see it being widely implemented outside of an international tournament (aside from perhaps the Champions League).

The cost (financial and personnel) of having something like this across all levels of the game would be prohibitive.

I still feel a few decisions have either been overlooked or incorrectly awarded (the penalty for France vs Australia for example wasn't clear cut IMO, but then I'm not a professional referee, and it WAS reviewed by a panel of them), but in the instances of Sweden's penalty for example, it protected against a gross injustice.

[JeMeSouviens]

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I like it, but I can't see it being widely implemented outside of an international tournament (aside from perhaps the Champions League).

The cost (financial and personnel) of having something like this across all levels of the game would be prohibitive.

I still feel a few decisions have either been overlooked or incorrectly awarded (the penalty for France vs Australia for example wasn't clear cut IMO, but then I'm not a professional referee, and it WAS reviewed by a panel of them), but in the instances of Sweden's penalty for example, it protected against a gross injustice.

I think it will be operating in the CL and the big (ie. rich) European leagues within a couple of years. I doubt we'll have it in Scotland any time soon.

[Stevie Reid]

Really dislike it, and most of the stuff it is used for is still subjective anyway.

Goal line technology is all we needed.

[jgl07]

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I think it will be operating in the CL and the big (ie. rich) European leagues within a couple of years. I doubt we'll have it in Scotland any time soon.

A shame.

I wonder how many years Rangers would have been denied trophies if VAR had been in use?

[cabbageandribs1875]

a wrong wasn't righted last night with the clear push by the swiss gadgy with the equaliser, cheating VAR git Failure :)


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"The Miranda moment was very clear. The second play you can interpret but the first one you can't discuss - the people responsible for that must work within fairness. You have to be fair.

[Hibernian Verse]

Credit where it is due, this World Cup has been hugely successful so far.

[scuttle]

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Every incident is automatically reviewed.

It's only when there's a clear mistake that the ref is asked to look again.

What about the swiss guys push last night ,that looked a clear mistake imo

[Mon Dieu4]

It's been more of a success than failure but I still don't like it, still stand by it will make the game too clinical the more it's refined and worked on, grey areas are part of what makes the game, I don't want it black and white

[blackpoolhibs]

I like it, although they do seem to be a bit slapdash in whats reviewed or not, im not sure it is.

I know radge said everything is reviewed, but there was a clear penalty in the Argentina game where we all thought it was a dive, apart from the player who was after watching the replay clearly chopped down.

[danhibees1875]

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It's been more of a success than failure but I still don't like it, still stand by it will make the game too clinical the more it's refined and worked on, grey areas are part of what makes the game, I don't want it black and white

I'm with you on this one.

[GreenCastle]

Long over due to have technology.

I still would have officialls looking at video replays make the decisions rather than the ref stopping the game and going across to side of pitch to have a look.

Rugby have it spot on with TMO and football still needs to give the refs microphones so they can explain decisions throughout games.

[Northernhibee]

I despise it. Another step to making it a sanitised sport for the rugby and cricket crowd.

[Hibbyradge]

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I despise it. Another step to making it a sanitised sport for the rugby and cricket crowd.

It's about getting more decisions right.

Plus there's a welcome side effect in that it'll make it a lot harder for referees to be accused of cheating.

[Hibernian Verse]

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I despise it. Another step to making it a sanitised sport for the rugby and cricket crowd.

As a fan of both football and rugby I can tell you that Rugby games are far better officiated than football games.

And I'd also ask you to not be so patronising towards fans of other sports, we're all Hibees on here (well most of us!).

[Northernhibee]

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As a fan of both football and rugby I can tell you that Rugby games are far better officiated than football games.

And I'd also ask you to not be so patronising towards fans of other sports, we're all Hibees on here (well most of us!).

Well, if people like their sport lacking controversy then fair enough.

Nothing better than the debates of was it or was it not a goal/penalty/red card that comes from human decisions in the heat of the moment.

[Hibernian Verse]

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Well, if people like their sport lacking controversy then fair enough.

Nothing better than the debates of was it or was it not a goal/penalty/red card that comes from human decisions in the heat of the moment.

See the last rugby world cup for controversy. Our own country was involved. I appreciate your point of view but for me a fair result with fair decisions is more important than whether or not I can have a discussion in the pub

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[Stevie Reid]

Clearly can't help inconsistent refereeing.

[AZhibee]

Video review has been a tremendous benefit to all sports used, but there is usually a time period of ironing out the wrinkles, and fans getting used to it.

[hfc rd]

Before the World Cup started, I was totally against VAR due to all the dubious decisions being made in the FA Cup. Having said that, it’s been a very good addition to this World Cup. 1-2 small grey areas still need to be worked upon but it’s been more a success than a failure during this World Cup so far.

[Forza Fred]

Experienced VAR for half a season here in Oz.

My summation

Will it REDUCE wrong decisions.........Yes
Will it result in No wrong decisions.......No
Will wrong decisions be given AFTER viewing the VAR.....Yes
Will it affect the natural ‘flow’ of the game.......Yes
Will there be times that the VAR is NOT used when most think it should....Yes

Humans are involved, mistakes will continue to be made......VAR will reduce that, but not eliminate wrong decisions....and I guess the question is.......is the stop/start nature of the technology worth the outcome?

I’m still undecided after several months.....

[CallumLaidlaw]

I’m all for it. Anything to get more decisions right. Folk saying it ends debate - couldn’t disagree more. There will be plenty of debate.


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[Forza Fred]

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I’m all for it. Anything to get more decisions right. Folk saying it ends debate - couldn’t disagree more. There will be plenty of debate.


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Hopefully referees WILL be able to end debate about their decisions.....it’s a game of fitba where one team is trying to beat the other at fitba.......debate only arises through decisions that are not clear.

We lost the game, but won the debate....😟

[CallumLaidlaw]

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Hopefully referees WILL be able to end debate about their decisions.....it’s a game of fitba where one team is trying to beat the other at fitba.......debate only arises through decisions that are not clear.

We lost the game, but won the debate....

I don’t just mean around refs decisions. We’ll still have plenty to debate. I’m also not too worried that all of a sudden 100% of decisions will be correct. It still comes down to opinion. But as long as it improves, and helps get the glaring ones right, I’m behind it.
They do need to get more consistent at calling reviews tho. Kane got dragged to the ground last night - was a stonewaller.


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[Scouse Hibee]

Goal line technology is enough for me. Last night showed that VAR still doesn't guarantee the correct decisions will be made.

[hibbysam]

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Goal line technology is enough for me. Last night showed that VAR still doesn't guarantee the correct decisions will be made.

For me it’s about the certainties, goal line, offside, in or out the box etc, the referee still referees the game himself, and can check over the black and white decisions, handballs, fouls etc are all down to interpretation.

[Hibbyradge]

Are people really arguing that because it only helps to get some of the difficult decisions right, not all of them, it shouldn't be used at all?

The system, and the way it's used, is in its infancy. It will be tweaked and it will improve.

Some decisions will still be controversial because a human being is interpreting the images, but if it helps get more decisions right, then I'm all for it.

In any case, we might as well get used to it. It's here to stay.

[Stevie Reid]

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Are people really arguing that because it only helps to get some of the difficult decisions right, not all of them, it shouldn't be used at all?

The system, and the way it's used, is in its infancy. It will be tweaked and it will improve.

Some decisions will still be controversial because a human being is interpreting the images, but if it helps get more decisions right, then I'm all for it.

In any case, we might as well get used to it. It's here to stay.

On the flipside, why is your argument a justification for using it at all? If using it leads to getting some things right, and some things wrong, how are we any better off than before? The person ultimately making the decisions remains as fallible as ever, as has been shown in this WC.