Zidane deserves more credit, not only amongst the best when playing but performed well in management, winning 3 CL trophies in a row. Zidane has proved himself in every possible way, winning leagues, world cups and numerous cup competitions. Has to be up there when talking about the GOAT.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Pele
45 20.64% -
Maradona
38 17.43% -
Ronaldhino
2 0.92% -
Ronaldo (Brazil)
5 2.29% -
Messi
57 26.15% -
Ronaldo (Portugal)
35 16.06% -
Maldini
1 0.46% -
Zidane
6 2.75% -
Cruyff
14 6.42% -
Beckenbauer
0 0% -
Di Stefano
3 1.38% -
Someone not listed above
12 5.50%
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17-06-2018 11:13 AM #121
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17-06-2018 11:45 AM #122
For me it’s only between Messi and Ronaldo as I never got to see Pele, Maradona And others play.
Although watching videos etc the standard was completely different back then and nowhere near the quality it is today.
Messi is more of likeable player and I think that plays massively in his favour as a lot of people seem to take a real disliking to Ronaldo as they think he is a poser, arrogant and much more.
They’re both tremendous players who continuously outdo each other and we are lucky to see them play in the same era.
God knows who will take the title of being the best once they retire.
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17-06-2018 11:55 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You havent watched the 1970 World Cup Final then? Or the '78 final?
Quality was abound back then. Too many names to mention.
Never mind Brazil or Argentina, who won those finals i list
European clubs had many "world class" players in the 70s
A who's who of quality players.indeed.Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 17-06-2018 at 11:57 AM.
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17-06-2018 12:03 PM #124
get Marco Van Basten included, a total footballer from the Dutch total football era even though his career was sadly cut very short after injury
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17-06-2018 12:41 PM #125
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17-06-2018 12:56 PM #126
For me the only debate to be had is who's the best of an era. Football changes from era to era never mind from when pele played to when messi played.
Football was barely available to watch "back in the day" so how comparisons can be made baffles me tbh
In this modern era, lionel Messi is the most naturally gifted out of the 2 greats we're watching although the constant dick measuring to compare the 2 is so ****ing boring imo. Loving watching both of them play.
My favourite player I've seen though, is Zinedine Zidane
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Its no possible for younger fans to be able to compare today with yester year.
Apart from the obvious of watching The Tornadoes early 70s, I think that decade was brilliant.
Watching World stars on TV was becoming more common by then.... and in colour !
Scotland qualified for 2 World Cups in the 70s.
1974 side was possibly our best squad.
A great decade for football,and so many class footballers.
And Scotland clearly had a world class footballer in King Kenny.
Sorry!... Sir King Kenny;-)Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 17-06-2018 at 01:26 PM.
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17-06-2018 08:24 PM #132
Pele. 3 WC winners medals and targeted in the other 2 intervening competitions when two footed tackles to the haw maws was seen as worthy of a wagging finger. Maradona comes close. Cruyff threw the toys out the pram despite having superb talent. Best came from the wrong country. The argument is usually whether the old gods could play today. Definitely. Today's players could not compete back then as what makes them great today would have been kicked out of them.... All IMHO
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Find it amazing so many people try to claim Messi and other stars couldn’t be effective decades ago just because what is deemed an acceptable challenge has changed over the years.
They play according to how the games are played these days. I’m sure they would adapt if the rules were suddenly different again.
Defenders struggle to get close enough to Messi to kick him. This wouldn’t change regardless of the rules. The man is an unbelievable talent.
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18-06-2018 01:55 PM #137
Really surprised with the lack of votes for Zidane and Ronaldinho.
Zidane for me is the best player iv seen. For me he was the complete player.
and Ronaldinho made football look so easy... just a shame after success at barca he just didnt fancy it anymore.
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I always think of who was the most unplayable at their peak.
sure messi and ronaldo have most likely done it at the highest level/stayed fit for a long time,
the modern player is different. messi for sure was born with the greater gifts.
But for me, its Maradona, play him in any team, in any generation, he will be a star,
He made very good teams, the best on the planet. argentina/napoli
the other Id have to say, is brazilian ronaldo, watching him in his first 5-6 years
was indeed phenomenal there has not been another all out striker with that amount of natural talent iever,, for me.
CR, whilst making himself the best in the world, was not born with the same talent as others,credit to him, but i cant say
he is better than the other ronaldo, who if fit for 12-14 years would have had a scary career, considering his inuries, he still has some records to his name,!
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I am a messi fan. but this is a fairpoint, If messi cannot be successful with the argentina team of now, then him playing in place of maradona in the 86 team... that argentina team is not improving, its declining and likely not winning the world cup, thats teh difference between the 2 for me,
Messi doesnt score that goal against england. infact.. neither, of the goals, as he wouldnt handball it either ;)
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I've voted for Ronaldo, as the likes of Pele had a great team round him! With Ronaldo, he makes the others around him play better than they probibly would for Portugal.
When he played for Man Utd, he was outstanding, and they have missed him ever since he left.
Arriving at Real Madrid he has set record after record and at 33 still has as much influence in games as when he first started.
Everyone thought we would never see another Pele, yet years later in a much faster game Ronaldo just beggars belief on a football park.
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I accept the maradona argument, the footage I’ve seen of him is utterly brilliant as well. I just don’t accept the assumption that Messi couldn’t have handled the physical game.
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Gareth Bale has turned a mediocre Welsh side into a team that was challenging for a Euro final place. He's also won the Champions League four times. He's as much deserving of a place on the list as George Best.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Best wasn't a 'great'. But to have included him, would have brought into the equation many other's who are just as deserving as George Best.
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19-06-2018 07:09 AM #150
Anyone who doubts the sheer class and ability of George Best clearly did not see him play.
I note he is not on the list, neither are Eusebio or Puskas.
There have been so many "great" players in my lifetime.
Choosing one is not easy.
George would have "walked" into any International team on the planet.
And he would have been a sensation at a World Cup Finals. (if he wasn't kicked off the park,as Eusebio was in 1966)
Along with Pele and Eusebio,George was the finest player i saw in the 60s ....................
...........apart from Willie Hamilton!Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 19-06-2018 at 07:13 AM.
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