World Cup thread

[Lago]

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So many takers do that now. Wait for the keeper to move before hitting it. I'm surprised more keepers don't try whay Schmeichel did.

I'm with you I like the Harry Kane approach. Top corner and blast it.

Darren Jackson could hit a penalty!

[Michael]

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They should do away with keepers at penalties and replace them with the moving/popping up targets you get in fairgrounds.

I'd also like to see penalties without a keeper, but the players are blindfolded and spun around 12 times before they kick it.

[iwasthere1972]

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They should do away with keepers at penalties and replace them with the moving/popping up targets you get in fairgrounds.

Both the goalkeeper and the penalty taker have to wear binocular glasses.

[Sir David Gray]

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How was that not a red card? If the penalty is given then it must have been a goalscoring opp?

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Rule changes a few years back. You can't get a red and a penalty.

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Cheers, commentators have clarified that now too

That's wrong.

You absolutely can give away a penalty and also get a red card.

It's all a question of whether the player who's committed the foul has been deemed to make a genuine attempt to win the ball or not.

If he has then a yellow card must be given. If he hasn't then he'll be sent off.

[ancient hibee]

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That's wrong.

You absolutely can give away a penalty and also get a red card.

It's all a question of whether the player who's committed the foul has been deemed to make a genuine attempt to win the ball or not.

If he has then a yellow card must be given. If he hasn't then he'll be sent off.

See posts 4525 and 4526 for a more concise explanation.

[Mibbes Aye]

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See posts 4525 and 4526 for a more concise explanation.

So it becomes a question of whether he was trying to play the ball. I've not seen it since, but I thought he wasn't trying to play the ball at the time.

[Michael]

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That's wrong.

You absolutely can give away a penalty and also get a red card.

It's all a question of whether the player who's committed the foul has been deemed to make a genuine attempt to win the ball or not.

If he has then a yellow card must be given. If he hasn't then he'll be sent off.

Right, but I was explaining why he got a yellow.

[Bristolhibby]

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What's the point of having officials on the line if they never pull goalies up for being well off their line before the kick is taken?

I was having this argument with my mates. Does my nut in.

J

[JimBHibees]

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I was having this argument with my mates. Does my nut in.

J

Incredible how far both goalies were able to come off their lines Subasic was waiting for the ball at one of the pens. Huge advantage to the goalies if that isn't pulled up. Akinfeev was at it also but De Gea didn't bother trying to save any of the shots. For the supposed best goalie in the world he isn't very good is he.

[we are hibs]

You could ask what's the point In linesman now when they're bring told to keep their flag down and let VAR decide. Not needed for the ball crossing the line, not needed for offside calls.

[hibsbollah]

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What's the point of having officials on the line if they never pull goalies up for being well off their line before the kick is taken?

If that rule was rigidly enforced nine out of ten pens would be goals and the process would be a lot less fun. The keeper needs to get a power jump to make a normal save so making him wait on his line till the last minute is unnaturally hampering him at pens as it is.

I think it's about right as it is.

[Hibbyradge]

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You could ask what's the point In linesman now when they're bring told to keep their flag down and let VAR decide. Not needed for the ball crossing the line, not needed for offside calls.

They've not been told to let VAR decide.

They've been told to delay flagging to see what develops, in case they were mistaken.

For example, the attacking team might score a goal if the flag is delayed, but the game would be stopped if the flag went up immediately.

[Bristolhibby]

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Incredible how far both goalies were able to come off their lines Subasic was waiting for the ball at one of the pens. Huge advantage to the goalies if that isn't pulled up. Akinfeev was at it also but De Gea didn't bother trying to save any of the shots. For the supposed best goalie in the world he isn't very good is he.

See the Hun goalie for our penalty shootout in the 2004 League Cup semi final.

Soooo far off his line.

J

[Bristolhibby]

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If that rule was rigidly enforced nine out of ten pens would be goals and the process would be a lot less fun. The keeper needs to get a power jump to make a normal save so making him wait on his line till the last minute is unnaturally hampering him at pens as it is.

I think it's about right as it is.

That was what my mate was saying. But if that’s the case, change Law 14 of the game. Do not even mention the distance between ball and goalie.

J

[Sylar]

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If that rule was rigidly enforced nine out of ten pens would be goals and the process would be a lot less fun. The keeper needs to get a power jump to make a normal save so making him wait on his line till the last minute is unnaturally hampering him at pens as it is.

I think it's about right as it is.

Is there a reason the keeper couldn't start behind his line and step up to it then? Rather than shortening the distance to the ball?

The Croatia laddie was about 2 yards off his line for a few of the Danes' penalties last night.

[Hibbyradge]

Brazil v Mexico at 3.00pm.

Could another favourite go out?

[hibsbollah]

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Is there a reason the keeper couldn't start behind his line and step up to it then? Rather than shortening the distance to the ball?

The Croatia laddie was about 2 yards off his line for a few of the Danes' penalties last night.

That's not a bad idea.

[SJNB Hibby]

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Brazil v Mexico at 3.00pm.

Could another favourite go out?

I would be shocked if Brazil lose, but its all about Mexican confidence
If Brazil score first its all over, an early goal for Mexico would likely be a mistake(see Scotland 1982)

[heretoday]

Come on you greens!

[SanFranHibs]

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I would be shocked if Brazil lose, but its all about Mexican confidence
If Brazil score first its all over, an early goal for Mexico would likely be a mistake(see Scotland 1982)

So you think Mexico's best chance is not to score at all

[Hibbyradge]

I am loving this game!

[SJNB Hibby]

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So you think Mexico's best chance is not to score at all

EARLY I said, but pens after 0-0 may be their best hope---had a couple of minor chances though

[Lago]

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I am loving this game!

Mexico playing really well, you have to wonder how the rangers managed to pick up so many duds

[Pretty Boy]

I'm probably in a minority of one but I have never taken to Brazil. Is it a nostalgia thing for a lot of people remembering the 70s and early 80s? Of the WCs I can really remember (98-present) Brazil have been pretty dull at 3 of them and only really lived up to their flair reputation in 2002. 98 they were good but functional rather than sparkling.

I don't like their strip either.

[Ronniekirk]

Am not really enjoying this game so far and the previous two that went to penalties weren't much better
Maybe that last game of the Season at Easter Rd had me expecting too much
Can't wait for half time to sit out in the Sunshine



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[AugustaHibs]

Fagner is honking. Dives in at every tackle and atleast a yard too slow every time

[JeMeSouviens]

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I'm probably in a minority of one but I have never taken to Brazil. Is it a nostalgia thing for a lot of people remembering the 70s and early 80s? Of the WCs I can really remember (98-present) Brazil have been pretty dull at 3 of them and only really lived up to their flair reputation in 2002. 98 they were good but functional rather than sparkling.

I don't like their strip either.

I am not quite old enough to remember 74, 78 I only really remember the Scotland games and the final but Brazil in 82 are seared on my memory. Probably the same for anyone that watched that WC: Socrates, Zico, Eder, Falcao etc. But I think the fact that they didn't win playing that way caused them to go much more pragmatic since then. The 94 win (0-0 final won on pens about summed it up) was dull stuff indeed.

[Ronniekirk]

Why are some posts for e.g. Mine and pretty boys posts coming up twice Seen this a lot recently


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[Iggy Pope]

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See the Hun goalie for our penalty shootout in the 2004 League Cup semi final.

Soooo far off his line.

J

See Conrad in the Dundee Utd semi.
Best left up to the ref!

[ian cruise]

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I'm probably in a minority of one but I have never taken to Brazil. Is it a nostalgia thing for a lot of people remembering the 70s and early 80s? Of the WCs I can really remember (98-present) Brazil have been pretty dull at 3 of them and only really lived up to their flair reputation in 2002. 98 they were good but functional rather than sparkling.

I don't like their strip either.

They had some great teams and players in the 90s but last decade they've been surprisingly meh.

Can't agree with you on the strip though, always one of my favourites.