A few people chipping in a tenner a month may not make a difference to Barker, but a few thousand chipping in a tenner a month will certainly make a difference in the kind of player we can get (to replace Barker or otherwise) and what we can offer them.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
as always though, it’s down to individual choice and affordability. I just don’t agree with the argument that there’s no point to it.
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07-06-2018 08:40 AM #151
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07-06-2018 08:55 AM #152
In the future will the HSL income have a bearing on how Hibs price the cost of a season ticket?
Keeping season tickets affordable is very important in maintaning new members we have attracted.
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07-06-2018 09:31 AM #154
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Excellent news. I make it that's at least £2,500 raised in a few days (for this year) just by starting this thread. Maybe we could keep it going through June & you could update us on new joiners in much the same way as Hibs do with season tickets. I think if people see more joining up & can see a tangible sum resulting, eg £50k or higher, then it may encourage others to sign up. Great job, many congrats.
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07-06-2018 11:21 AM #156
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07-06-2018 11:34 AM #157This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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07-06-2018 11:47 AM #160
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07-06-2018 03:45 PM #162This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That's got nothing to do with a few people saying they do not want to contribute to HSL, it's just simple arithmetic.
Unless we get bought over by an Arab sheikh with an endless amount of money, we have no chance of competing with Rangers as far as wages are concerned, when they have around 30,000 more season ticket holders than us.
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07-06-2018 03:49 PM #163
I must have spent thousands following Hibs since 1963, but I suppose another tenner won't hurt.
It's a bit thick though!
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07-06-2018 03:51 PM #164This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Perhaps not on overall wage bill, but in a few key areas.
Aberdeen are doing it, with a bit more investment focussed in the right areas, why not Hibs?
Those who say "why bother with HSL" are usually those jumping out their seats greetin about the quality of our players.....
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07-06-2018 04:13 PM #165This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Aberdeen are a fair comparison and they do pay more than us just now so that alone should encourage people to donate to HSL but I don't think Rangers are necessarily a good comparison.
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07-06-2018 09:50 PM #166
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When HSL pass the 2000 member number I would like to see them make a big thing of this. We need to generate momentum and hopefully a "bandwagon" effect will kick in! Just a thought.
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I support HSL and have donated a few quid every month since it started. But another poster is probably correct, the donation schemes of Hibs, Hertz and Aberdeen will pretty much just end up cancelling each other out.Last edited by green&left; 08-06-2018 at 10:57 AM.
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08-06-2018 10:03 AM #169
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Agree totally with cwg it's a fact any donations to HSL will help our manager to kick on again and improve the quality of our squad I urge all hibbys if possible to donate even a small amount one thing we surely all agree on we want the best team as possible to take us as Lenny says to the next level he has proven in the transfer market to be very astute let's do this my fellow hibbys Ggtth
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08-06-2018 03:02 PM #170
If you can afford to commit then it's a no brainer. The money goes straight to new signings.
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08-06-2018 04:22 PM #172
Can anyone point me in the direction of where it specifically states that the funds will be used for player recruitment?
As far as I can see HSL themselves say on their own website that all the money raised is passed to Hibs and it's up to the club to use the money as they see fit.
I don't actually have a problem with the above statement by the way, as it's outlined very clearly what their intentions are and it's then up to each individual if they want to donate.
I've seen a few people say that all funds go to the manager and I just wondered where people had got this understanding from that all funds raised by HSL would be passed to the club in order to buy new players. Although that may well be what happens, I can't see it confirmed anywhere.
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08-06-2018 04:38 PM #173This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There was a story on here recently about GC using HSL money to pay for a psychologist for Ryan Porteous. That suggests that GC gets the money, and spends it on the football operation.
If that's the case, it's wide of the mark to suggest that the money is only spent on players and their wages.
Like you, though, I don't have a problem with that scenario.
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08-06-2018 04:45 PM #174madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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08-06-2018 04:56 PM #175This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
All I had pointed out is that some people appear to be of the understanding that all funds raised by HSL go straight to Neil Lennon to spend on new players and I just asked where people had read this as I do not believe that this is necessarily true.
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08-06-2018 04:58 PM #176This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I suppose I'm just highlighting that there may be a misunderstanding out there that it's all about transfer fees and wages.
HOWEVER....since you've put it out there.... see if Lewie doesn't do that every game.....there will be questions.
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08-06-2018 06:02 PM #177This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It is certainly very positive that this thread has generated some discussion about HSL, perhaps more importantly it has generated more contributors to HSL and by default to the mighty Hi-Bees.
My slight dyslexia I promise to work even harder on. As for the heading “Can I/we/you afford not to!” perhaps some read things into words that they wish or want (Context) This was more of a call to all Hibs supporters not to ignore what other clubs are doing along similar paths. (Just squeezed into 5 words. Try getting a heading into 5 words) May have been better using the word “We”, but all have 20/20 vision with hindsight.
For sure there is a whole lot more that could be done with and by HSL but they all give their time voluntarily which I completely understand. All I do is contribute I have no affiliation whatsoever.
But perhaps this is a missing opportunity to get help, with such things as a monthly newsletter which shows the progress being made. As others have already said on this thread, in my humble opinion they should forget about percentages and speak about targets for each month, then show totals in cash raised for that month, even if not reached.
There are more than enough on this forum who I am sure could contribute to articles etc, for a newsletter, perhaps they could even set it up as many appear to write Blogs and such. This could be sent out once a month to all on the database. Then it could also be read on the official website.
Its all about clear communication, and I for one would want to see hard cash figures rather than what percentage of shares have been purchased (although important its boring) This could be covered in the newsletter by official HSL.
Articles from players past and present etc, you may even be able to get some advertisers which would bring in a wee bit more cash.
To get 16 to 20 people signing up with one thread shows the power that the forum has, it’s up to HSL to use it better.
Aim for 50 people a week, so what if you don’t reach it, tell us the numbers also the cash amounts raised each month, then momentum can grow, both by word of mouth and seeing results.
Anyway that’s enough from me for now.
GGTTH
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08-06-2018 06:25 PM #178
Re the question about how the money is spent, the way I view it is that HSL donations effectively protect/enhance the playing budget.
In the example above about the psychologist - Hibs might have done that regardless, but then that money would have to come from somewhere of HSL wasn't paying donations, and sooner or later that money comes from Lennon's budget.
You could argue that the club paid for the physiologist and from the budget and then HSL paid into the budget to compensate, or you could say HSL paid for the psychologist. It doesn't really matter but it shows why it's not dishonest or even disingenuous to say that HSL directly impacts the money Lennon can spend on transfers or wages.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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08-06-2018 06:49 PM #179madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I agree with your point, that is why I replied to the posts before. Player acquisition seems to be people's focus and at no point have we heard from HSL "this money will go straight to player acquisition". A budget for playing staff is wide-ranging for me, I'm happy for my money to go towards that if it means Porteous goes onto become a top player etc. You definitely have highlighted a valid point though, people do think all the money we are raising is going to signing players (don't entirely blame them for getting fixated on that at the moment though because it has been very quiet on that front!)
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08-06-2018 07:10 PM #180
I'm pretty sure the original quote (loosley) was that our money would be "ring fenced for the manager to put towards Sporting Ambition"
That covers a few things, but in my mind... All good.
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