Unhelpful and Unofficial World Cup 2018 Thread

[One Day Soon]

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I'm not saying there haven't been 2 Germanies, I'm saying that the current one is the same as the 1949-1990 "West" one.

England/Us/UK is as the French would say, a different pair of sleeves altogether.

The current one has the whole of East Germany added to it, meaning it's a lot more like the one prior to 1946...

So now we're talking about three Germanies. Or is it four?

Don't start bringing the US into FFS, it's complicated enough already.

[JeMeSouviens]

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The current one has the whole of East Germany added to it, meaning it's a lot more like the one prior to 1946...

So now we're talking about three Germanies. Or is it four?

Don't start bringing the US into FFS, it's complicated enough already.

Aha, I was wondering when to bring the US into it. There were 2 Americas in the 1860s, but the USA claimed the territory of both and everyone* considers it the same country as the current USA now.

Have they ever beaten us at the World Cup?


* almost.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The current one has the whole of East Germany added to it, meaning it's a lot more like the one prior to 1946...

So now we're talking about three Germanies. Or is it four?

Don't start bringing the US into FFS, it's complicated enough already.

Just think if there had been a World Cup in 1942. They'd have had Austria and the Sudetenland to choose from an aw.

[One Day Soon]

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Aha, I was wondering when to bring the US into it. There were 2 Americas in the 1860s, but the USA claimed the territory of both and everyone* considers it the same country as the current USA now.

Have they ever beaten us at the World Cup?


* almost.

I cant' find any record of us playing against the United States (pre civil war), the Confederacy or the United States (intra civil war), the United States of America (post civil war) or any of the non United States mainland Territories during the period up to 1889 in either home, away or unofficial World Cup fixtures. So I'm saying no, no version of the US has ever beaten us at the World Cup.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I cant' find any record of us playing against the United States (pre civil war), the Confederacy or the United States (intra civil war), the United States of America (post civil war) or any of the non United States mainland Territories during the period up to 1889 in either home, away or unofficial World Cup fixtures. So I'm saying no, no version of the US has ever beaten us at the World Cup.

So we're one-up on the Republic of Englandshire then?

[Ryan69]

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Ahem ...

There are some excellent Belgian Beers.
Chimay Blue is my favourite..:)

[One Day Soon]

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So we're one-up on the Republic of Englandshire then?

Well, we're always that. That's the line regardless of anything else.

[blackpoolhibs]

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There are some excellent Belgian Beers.
Chimay Blue is my favourite..:)

And of course their most famous export.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/1494...g-history-as-a

[CMurdoch]

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Uruguay:

Always a good principle to save the worst ‘til last. And these are among the very worst. What a bunch of anti-football, dirty, hacking, low life thugs. Yes, it’s Mexico 1986 and Scotland’s opening game against Uruguano in the group of death with West Germany, Denmark and Uruguay. Charlie Nicholas literally booted off the park, Jose Batista red carded in just 56 seconds for violent conduct and every passage of play punctuated by flying Uruguayan elbows. Never forgiven them and never will. It should be brought up with every Uruguayan you may meet – including the ones who don’t follow football. Can they win it? I don’t know, can Satan rule heaven?

Uruguay was our last match in the group.
An extra player for the whole match and still we couldn't break them down to qualify.
A very sad day.

[Eyrie]

Outstanding work, and probably more entertaining than the World Cup games I'll sit through waiting for our season to start.

[One Day Soon]

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Uruguay was our last match in the group.
An extra player for the whole match and still we couldn't break them down to qualify.
A very sad day.

A very violent day.

It was like 11 footballers against 10 street thugs. In fact the most galling thing in some ways was the referee managing to book only three of them.

I've been nursing 32 years of rage about that game.

[JeMeSouviens]

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A very violent day.

It was like 11 footballers against 10 street thugs. In fact the most galling thing in some ways was the referee managing to book only three of them.

I've been nursing 32 years of rage about that game.

Imagine a S Korea v Uruguay final. You might explode. ;-)

[One Day Soon]

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Imagine a S Korea v Uruguay final. You might explode. ;-)

Impossible final to referee. I mean, who would they choose to cheat for?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Impossible final to referee. I mean, who would they choose to cheat for?

Rangers, nap.

[AZhibee]

Bravo 👏 👏 👏

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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It's all been downhill since Clovis if you ask me.

Was that the advert with the guy trying to get up a hill on his bike?

[stantonhibby]

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I may be reading between the lines, but do you have a soft spot for Italy?

I also have a feeling ODS is not a huge fan of Ronaldo.

[matty_f]

I can't believe I've not read this thread until now!

Brilliant stuff!

[One Day Soon]

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I also have a feeling ODS is not a huge fan of Ronaldo.

Plays for Real, planet sized ego, plays for Real. Easy decision.

[jacomo]

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Plays for Real, planet sized ego, plays for Real. Easy decision.

Many more reasons could be added to the list, including the observation that his own team mates seem to loathe him.

I think his ludicrous touch line antics at Euro 2016 - where he went off injured and then started barking out instructions from the technical area - pushed me over the edge.

[Newry Hibs]

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A very violent day.

It was like 11 footballers against 10 street thugs. In fact the most galling thing in some ways was the referee managing to book only three of them.

I've been nursing 32 years of rage about that game.

All I can think of about that game is 'Steve Nicol. Steve bloody Nicol'

[One Day Soon]

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Many more reasons could be added to the list, including the observation that his own team mates seem to loathe him.

I think his ludicrous touch line antics at Euro 2016 - where he went off injured and then started barking out instructions from the technical area - pushed me over the edge.

I somehow managed to forget about that buy you're absolutely right. That whole episode was farcical. Shakespearean tragedy meets football match. Plus there's that utterly ridiculous advert for the stomach muscle exercising gizmo.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Plays for Real, planet sized ego, plays for Real. Easy decision.

I think you're just Galacticos intolerant. :-)

[jacomo]

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England:

There is only one serious question to be asked about England’s chances - if England triumph would Gareth Southgate be the most plug manager ever to win the World Cup. Yes, yes he would. Can they do it? Let’s hope so, Putin would **** cacti if they did. Thankfully we’ve never had to play them in a world cup.

Off the pitch, England face a tricky away fixture. The Russian lads have apparently been told to reign in their natural aggression, but it’s a bit much to expect them to remain on the defensive through out.

Expect the real battle to happen on the flanks, as each side tries to find weaknesses in their opponent without drawing too much attention from the officials.

[One Day Soon]

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I think you're just Galacticos intolerant. :-)

Completely. It's the club where the spirit of football goes to die.

[HoboHarry]

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Just think if there had been a World Cup in 1942. They'd have had Austria and the Sudetenland to choose from an aw.

They probably would have chosen French and Polish players anaw.......

[One Day Soon]

Today's cheeky wee World Cup bit of colour. The Guardian has features on all time 1st 11s for various countries and they can be found here: https://www.theguardian.com/football...p-all-time-xis Warning! Contains some Spain content.

For those with broader tastes they also have a handy guide to all 736 individual players participating in the tournament. Hands up everyone who knew that Iceland and Udinese midfielder Emil Hallfredsson imports red wine from the Valpolicella valley into Iceland as a hobby? Or Colombia's Luis Muriel who apparently splits his non footballing time between learning accordion and looking after horses on his farm. "As soon as I had the chance to build a farm I didn't think twice about it, I just wanted to get some horses." https://www.theguardian.com/football...ngs-goals-caps

I may have to update some of my original national assessments as new information comes to light. Uruguay and Spain needn't wait anxiously by the letter box for love letters however.

[jacomo]

Here’s a question: which squad is most likely to get caught in a golden shower blackmail operation organised by the FSB?

Or are they reserving that for match officials?

[jacomo]

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Mexico:

Nope. Not going to happen. A team that will always, always ultimately choose siesta over fiesta when it comes to doing it in a major competition. Nice food but no staying power.

With stories coming out about the squad enjoying a 24hr party with 30 hookers after their recent game, could Mexico be the most likely to be black mailed by the FSB following a golden shower with prostitutes?

Or is the Russian secret service focusing on framing the match officials instead?

[One Day Soon]

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With stories coming out about the squad enjoying a 24hr party with 30 hookers after their recent game, could Mexico be the most likely to be black mailed by the FSB following a golden shower with prostitutes?

Or is the Russian secret service focusing on framing the match officials instead?

Anything is possible.

It's a World Cup - which means FIFA are involved so there probably won't be too many meetings that don't begin with rolled up notes, white powder, used banknotes and a weekly pass to the nearest expensive knocking shop.

Throw in Putin's Russia and you can easily see 'surprising' refereeing decisions, unexpected outbreaks of food poisoning, night before game hotel disruptions, etc.

And then there's the question of order and Russia's reputation - which Putin will have strong views about. So we can expect to see Russian paramilitaries armed to the teeth, trained ruthlessly, deployed tactically and intervening swiftly and with aggression. And that's just their casuals. Who is going to police the streets?

I'm not saying that this will be the most corrupt World Cup in history, but there's a fair chance that this will be the most corrupt World Cup in football history.

'Mon the Peru.


By the way lads, I made the mistake of watching the highlights again of THAT Italy v South Korea game earlier today followed by the next round game of South Korea against Spain. I'm more or less back up to DEFCON 1 with the Koreans again because of it. They're right in the mix again with the Uruguayans for most despised football shame.