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  1. 31-05-2018 09:09 AM #31
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    Tunisia:

    For some reason I’m associating Laurel and Hardy, French Foreign Legion, dates and palm trees. What I’m not associating is any kind of decent World Cup performance. Could they surprise us though? Yes they could, if by surprise we mean crash out at the group stage having achieved little. I don’t know though, just one England slip-up and maybe, just maybe, they can squeeze out of their group…
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  2. 31-05-2018 09:09 AM #32
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    Uruguay:

    Always a good principle to save the worst ‘til last. And these are among the very worst. What a bunch of anti-football, dirty, hacking, low life thugs. Yes, it’s Mexico 1986 and Scotland’s opening game against Uruguano in the group of death with West Germany, Denmark and Uruguay. Charlie Nicholas literally booted off the park, Jose Batista red carded in just 56 seconds for violent conduct and every passage of play punctuated by flying Uruguayan elbows. Never forgiven them and never will. It should be brought up with every Uruguayan you may meet – including the ones who don’t follow football. Can they win it? I don’t know, can Satan rule heaven?
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  3. 31-05-2018 09:09 AM #33
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    And breathe...
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  4. 31-05-2018 09:19 AM #34
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    Great work ODS, enjoyed reading it
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    That's very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Senegal:

    I know literally nothing about Senegal. So they’ll probably win it.
    It's where France gets all it's good footballers from.

    Bloody funny thread

    "I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"

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  7. 31-05-2018 09:49 AM #37
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    reading this thread is the first time I've been remotely excited about this world cup!


    ''Bring on the porn star''
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  8. 31-05-2018 10:08 AM #38
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    Top work!
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  9. 31-05-2018 10:28 AM #39
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    Love the thread.
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  10. 31-05-2018 10:33 AM #40
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    I may be reading between the lines, but do you have a soft spot for Italy?
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  11. 31-05-2018 10:37 AM #41
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    Germany:

    Ah Germany. The old enemy. The eternal foe. Impossible not to have a sneaking admiration for their relentless organisation, tournament guile, methodical application. It’s a bit like Italy decided to play in white, without swagger, with no epic squad/football association scandal - and made a point of trying to wind up the Dutch. When Germany come to play every other country in Europe should be nervous…Never beaten us in the finals.
    The game where Strachan couldn't get over the ad board.
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  12. 31-05-2018 10:38 AM #42
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    Belgium:

    Chocolate aside, this team may be the first decent thing this country has produced in its entire history. Can a country that feels like Europe’s motorway service station on the way to somewhere else win it? Ask supporters of Man C, Man U and Napoli.
    Ahem ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    The game where Strachan couldn't get over the ad board.
    That was West Germany. Bit like Rangers, doesn’t exist any more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    I may be reading between the lines, but do you have a soft spot for Italy?
    Does it show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    The game where Strachan couldn't get over the ad board.
    You're talking about West Germany, not The Germany. The Germany have never beaten this particular country in a world cup finals.
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    Ahem ...


    OK, I'll give you chocolate and whatever that is.
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    That was West Germany. Bit like Rangers, doesn’t exist any more
    Oh yeah. Mind you, it might have a different name for us, but I think pre and post unification is all "Deutschland", under the same constitution, to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    You're talking about West Germany, not The Germany. The Germany have never beaten this particular country in a world cup finals.
    I think "West Germany" in English is a bit like "Southern Ireland". To German and Irish people there's just "Germany" and "Ireland", albeit they might not be in control of all they consider their territory at a particular time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    I think "West Germany" in English is a bit like "Southern Ireland". To German and Irish people there's just "Germany" and "Ireland", albeit they might not be in control of all they consider their territory at a particular time.

    Oh well in that case we won a world cup in 1966 too because England are just part of the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    OK, I'll give you chocolate and whatever that is.
    Their contribution to the lexicon of British satire:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrvXoin9NcA
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Oh well in that case we won a world cup in 1966 too because England are just part of the UK.
    So we were World Champions in 66 AND 67? Cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Their contribution to the lexicon of British satire:-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrvXoin9NcA

    Might need to add Poirot to the list too. Mind you, it's all getting a bit 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'.

    It's all been downhill since Clovis if you ask me.
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    So we were World Champions in 66 AND 67? Cool.
    Absolutely.

    Though in reductivist terms I think if we argue that we won the World Cup in 1966 by virtue of my theory then it means that we only won it in 1967 too by beating ourselves...

    I think it's just simpler for all concerned if we agree that West Germany and The Germany are two different things.
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    Absolutely.

    Though in reductivist terms I think if we argue that we won the World Cup in 1966 by virtue of my theory then it means that we only won it in 1967 too by beating ourselves...

    I think it's just simpler for all concerned if we agree that West Germany and The Germany are two different things.
    If you can get some Germans to agree to that, fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    Might need to add Poirot to the list too. Mind you, it's all getting a bit 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'.

    It's all been downhill since Clovis if you ask me.
    Plastic Bertrand.

    He's fine by me.
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    If you can get some Germans to agree to that, fine.

    You've got a decision to make here by the (i) logic of this line of debate.

    Either we won the World Cup jointly with England and we should celebrate 1966 or there have been two Germanies.

    Either way I'm not having it that Germany have beaten us at a World Cup Finals. Have you seen our record? We need all the help we can get.
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    Plastic Bertrand.

    He's fine by me.
    Presumably you think he's the King of the divan?
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    Presumably you think he's the King of the divan?


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    That was an excellent read. Very amusing, clearly well researched and profoundly accurate.

    I think my favourite line was, "What can you say about Denmark that hasn’t been not worth saying before?".

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    You've got a decision to make here by the (i) logic of this line of debate.

    Either we won the World Cup jointly with England and we should celebrate 1966 or there have been two Germanies.

    Either way I'm not having it that Germany have beaten us at a World Cup Finals. Have you seen our record? We need all the help we can get.
    I'm not saying there haven't been 2 Germanies, I'm saying that the current one is the same as the 1949-1990 "West" one.

    England/Us/UK is as the French would say, a different pair of sleeves altogether.
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