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    Rude behaviour you encounter.

    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    I get the annoyance of someone just sitting at a table when others are free. But how can you complain about smoking?
    Smokers were forced to go outside when the law changed, no issue with that, but you cant then dictate at what times a smoker is allowed to smoke in the beer garden. On a cold raining night in the middle of winter you would not have an issue with someone going to the beer garden for a puff, but because the suns out and you decide to use it you expect a new law stopping people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee87 View Post
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    I get the annoyance of someone just sitting at a table when others are free. But how can you complain about smoking?
    Smokers were forced to go outside when the law changed, no issue with that, but you cant then dictate at what times a smoker is allowed to smoke in the beer garden. On a cold raining night in the middle of winter you would not have an issue with someone going to the beer garden for a puff, but because the suns out and you decide to use it you expect a new law stopping people?
    No I expect them to have the decency to at least ask seeing as we were not smoking and there were plenty of space. Why should I have smoke all over my clothes when out enjoying a drink?

    And yeah there should be a designated smoking area and a beer garden shouldn't be it. If a pub has no beer garden smokers go to an area that nobody is drinking or eating ie out the front, so IMO the same should apply in the beer garden area of a pub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.
    Because I am sitting right next to them that's why, on a table they decided to sit at after we did. I found it disgraceful just for them both to light up smelly roll ups right next to us knowing full well the smoke will blow about right on us.

    Would you expect to be asked by a guest in your home?

    Well maybe it's just me then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    No I expect them to have the decency to at least ask seeing as we were not smoking and there were plenty of space. Why should I have smoke all over my clothes when out enjoying a drink?

    And yeah there should be a designated smoking area and a beer garden shouldn't be it. If a pub has no beer garden smokers go to an area that nobody is drinking or eating ie out the front, so IMO the same should apply in the beer garden area of a pub.
    I guess we will have to disagree on this issue but imo the beer garden IS the designated smoking area. If you are sitting in any beer garden in the country you have to expect smokers since it is the outside area unless the pub itself advertises differently.

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    Anyone smoking in my vicinity annoys me so I get the OP completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.

    Original point confirmed!

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    One day my partner and I were in a beer garden and this guy sitting next to us started going radge, ranting about smoking and calling us “ignorant *******s”.

    I mean, how rude! He could at least of tried asking us politely to stop smoking if he didn’t like it.

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    Probably for the peeve thread....seperate outside smoking areas/tables. As if we're not castigated enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.
    This is my pet hate. You go early to an event and find one person there with half a dozen seats 'reserved' beside them with a jacket , handbag, hat, etc. This is repeated all over and you end up with a seat at the back. Five minutes before the show starts the 'reservees' toddle in and take their choice seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    Because I am sitting right next to them that's why, on a table they decided to sit at after we did. I found it disgraceful just for them both to light up smelly roll ups right next to us knowing full well the smoke will blow about right on us.

    Would you expect to be asked by a guest in your home?

    Well maybe it's just me then.
    I never realised it was your pub, sorry!

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    Anyone smoking in my vicinity annoys me so I get the OP completely.
    Me too. I think there should be smoking rooms with tight doors and ban smoking outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I never realised it was your pub, sorry!
    It's not. So would you expect to be asked at your home?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. S View Post
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    Me too. I think there should be smoking rooms with tight doors and ban smoking outdoors
    I used to smoke about 30 years ago however, these days the smell that comes off smokers almost makes me vomit.
    In their defence, I'm sure they have no concept of how bad the smell is to others so I can understand their indifference when people complain about it.

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    I used to smoke about 30 years ago however, these days the smell that comes off smokers almost makes me vomit.
    In their defence, I'm sure they have no concept of how bad the smell is to others so I can understand their indifference when people complain about it.
    Im an ex smoker too, 20 something years and am just mega grumpy about smokers smoking near me. Im unreasonable and I know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    It's not. So would you expect to be asked at your home?
    I would but, not if we were sitting in the garden having a bevvy. Smoking in someones house without asking is hardly comparable with smoking in an outdoor public area of a pub. At the end of the day I couldnae give a dugs dangler one way or the other so, you just crack on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I would but, not if we were sitting in the garden having a bevvy. Smoking in someones house without asking is hardly comparable with smoking in an outdoor public area of a pub. At the end of the day I couldnae give a dugs dangler one way or the other so, you just crack on.

    Just saying then in certain circumstances you would expect to be asked. I expect to be asked at a shared table, at their own table fine at a shared table expect to be asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    Just saying then in certain circumstances you would expect to be asked. I expect to be asked at a shared table, at their own table fine at a shared table expect to be asked.
    Totally sensible view IMHO... I just can't see how anyone could reasonably argue differently???

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    You have to expect it in beer gardens but its smoking at bus stops that does my head in!

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    You have to expect it in beer gardens but its smoking at bus stops that does my head in!
    Why? the difference is only in your head imo, we smokers have been treated as lepers and I am fine when it comes to not smoking indoors even when people who do not smoke are in my house but I will be ****ed if I am going to not smoke outside. maybe you should all get people in cars to stop driving too - no, that would probably impact you.
    I hate smoking but outside is kind of open enough to smoke in my opinion, so suck it up...or not as the case may be ....

    .....I am kind of being the stereotypical ignorant smoker by saying that and I do feel like that sometimes BUT seriouslly, I have just been diagnosed with COPD so it is something that needs to be slowly stopped as it is not nice seeing relatives dying because they cannot breath and I will be next unless I can cut it out.
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    on another note, I was going to the counter of a shop where I had to go round the little maze to get to the front of the queue - some idiot woman entered the shop and went straight to the front of the queue by not going the prescribed way - she got daggers I tell you.

    Also, in general, queueing is an art that is being lost in this country as the non queuing people who do not appreciate the reasons and rules come into the country - it has already been lost inLondon and annoyed me no ends when I lived there. This is not me being racist, i do think it is just a way of being polite and works.

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    For me it's whether they have the decency to make sure the smoke isn't wafting in my direction or if they are ignorant bassas who dont give a monkey's if their 2ns hand smoke is choking and blinding someone to death.

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    Kind of agree with the OP here. If they smokers had sat at a different table then I think they’re fair game to smoke, if they’ve sat at the same table then it’s just common courtesy to ask.

    i don’t smoke myself, never have, but I do have friends who do, and in my experience they are all very conscious of where the smoke wafts, often they’ll move themself or get me to move so the smoke isn’t blowing towards me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    Kind of agree with the OP here. If they smokers had sat at a different table then I think they’re fair game to smoke, if they’ve sat at the same table then it’s just common courtesy to ask.

    i don’t smoke myself, never have, but I do have friends who do, and in my experience they are all very conscious of where the smoke wafts, often they’ll move themself or get me to move so the smoke isn’t blowing towards me.
    That's all I expected maybe its just us but if I go to a crowded beer garden and I see a space I will always ask if OK to sit there. If they are smoking then that will have been my choice or not. However they never asked if OK to sit there which IMO is just curtious I think, then to light up is not right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    One day my partner and I were in a beer garden and this guy sitting next to us started going radge, ranting about smoking and calling us “ignorant *******s”.

    I mean, how rude! He could at least of tried asking us politely to stop smoking if he didn’t like it.
    If they are not doing anything why is there a need to politely ask them anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andybev1 View Post
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    on another note, I was going to the counter of a shop where I had to go round the little maze to get to the front of the queue - some idiot woman entered the shop and went straight to the front of the queue by not going the prescribed way - she got daggers I tell you.

    Also, in general, queueing is an art that is being lost in this country as the non queuing people who do not appreciate the reasons and rules come into the country - it has already been lost inLondon and annoyed me no ends when I lived there. This is not me being racist, i do think it is just a way of being polite and works.

    Doesn't surprise me as women are often the rudest in society in general, I hasten to add.

    Utterly self absorbed. They rarely even acknowledge my opening a door for them. As for selfish driving....

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    I remember one of my friends was asked by someone" Do you mind if I smoke?"
    He replied "Not at all. Do you mind if I fart in your face."

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