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    Rude behaviour you encounter.

    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
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    I've found closing myself off from the general population by living in a small village has done my stress levels a world of good.

    Unfortunately 99% of the population has forgotten manners are free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    I get the annoyance of someone just sitting at a table when others are free. But how can you complain about smoking?
    Smokers were forced to go outside when the law changed, no issue with that, but you cant then dictate at what times a smoker is allowed to smoke in the beer garden. On a cold raining night in the middle of winter you would not have an issue with someone going to the beer garden for a puff, but because the suns out and you decide to use it you expect a new law stopping people?

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    I get the annoyance of someone just sitting at a table when others are free. But how can you complain about smoking?
    Smokers were forced to go outside when the law changed, no issue with that, but you cant then dictate at what times a smoker is allowed to smoke in the beer garden. On a cold raining night in the middle of winter you would not have an issue with someone going to the beer garden for a puff, but because the suns out and you decide to use it you expect a new law stopping people?
    No I expect them to have the decency to at least ask seeing as we were not smoking and there were plenty of space. Why should I have smoke all over my clothes when out enjoying a drink?

    And yeah there should be a designated smoking area and a beer garden shouldn't be it. If a pub has no beer garden smokers go to an area that nobody is drinking or eating ie out the front, so IMO the same should apply in the beer garden area of a pub.
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    No I expect them to have the decency to at least ask seeing as we were not smoking and there were plenty of space. Why should I have smoke all over my clothes when out enjoying a drink?

    And yeah there should be a designated smoking area and a beer garden shouldn't be it. If a pub has no beer garden smokers go to an area that nobody is drinking or eating ie out the front, so IMO the same should apply in the beer garden area of a pub.
    I guess we will have to disagree on this issue but imo the beer garden IS the designated smoking area. If you are sitting in any beer garden in the country you have to expect smokers since it is the outside area unless the pub itself advertises differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.
    This is my pet hate. You go early to an event and find one person there with half a dozen seats 'reserved' beside them with a jacket , handbag, hat, etc. This is repeated all over and you end up with a seat at the back. Five minutes before the show starts the 'reservees' toddle in and take their choice seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.
    Holding up a shop queue while you go and do some more shopping is pretty bad manners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    Keeping seats for people or a place in a queue for folk annoys me more.
    FFS they are only keeping a seat for someone or a place in a queue. Calm down a bit.

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    today in the supermarket a couple had their trolley in the way of the aisle and for some reason it really ticked me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranraer View Post
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    today in the supermarket a couple had their trolley in the way of the aisle and for some reason it really ticked me off.

    A speaking trolley?!

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    A speaking trolley?!
    I could do with one of them when I come out of the shops and I canny find my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    FFS they are only keeping a seat for someone or a place in a queue. Calm down a bit.
    Aye, while people who turn up early (like me) are deprived of a seat by all the Caspers in the theatre.

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    I hate rude rude people so to stop them being rude I’m rude to them because it’s not rude when I’m rude because they were rude first and me being rude is irrelevant
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    Quote Originally Posted by My_Wife_Camille View Post
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    I hate rude rude people so to stop them being rude I’m rude to them because it’s not rude when I’m rude because they were rude first and me being rude is irrelevant
    I really don't understand how a simple question is so difficult to grasp. If I was rude then fine but that is neither here nor there or what was asked, Its not an episode of Columbo here. I could have blew up the pub poured drink on them whatever it is indeed irrelevant, I am interested in do you think up to just before I reacted was their behaviour rude that is all?

    Let's pretend I never said anything then, let's make this real easy ok? Let's pretend it wasn't even me OK? Let's really make it simple let's say its you how about that?

    Would you find it rude if sitting at a table with quite a few spare tables around for a couple to not acknowledge you and sit down and then smoke right next to you.

    Would that be rude to you or not?

    If Yes great, If not fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    My wife and I were sitting at a table in a beer garden yesterday. There were still quite a few tables free a couple in the shade but 2 or 3 the same as ours.

    A couple in their probably 60s decided to sit at end of our table as in the sun didn't ask if OK or ask if anyone else was sitting there as we may have been waiting for people.

    We do not smoke and I understand you can smoke in beer garden (I do not think you should but that's another argument) they then got out stinking roll ups and started smoking again not a word.

    I said to wife whom was not impressed that I am saying something which she didn't want to. I got up and said "it's OK you just stay there and we will move tables as we don't want smoke all over our clothes you 2 just do what you like ignorant *******s"

    Not a word from them. That sort of **** really annoys me.

    I would say that their behaviour was rude and arrogant?
    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.
    Because I am sitting right next to them that's why, on a table they decided to sit at after we did. I found it disgraceful just for them both to light up smelly roll ups right next to us knowing full well the smoke will blow about right on us.

    Would you expect to be asked by a guest in your home?

    Well maybe it's just me then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    Because I am sitting right next to them that's why, on a table they decided to sit at after we did. I found it disgraceful just for them both to light up smelly roll ups right next to us knowing full well the smoke will blow about right on us.

    Would you expect to be asked by a guest in your home?

    Well maybe it's just me then.
    I never realised it was your pub, sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I never realised it was your pub, sorry!
    It's not. So would you expect to be asked at your home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
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    It's not. So would you expect to be asked at your home?
    I would but, not if we were sitting in the garden having a bevvy. Smoking in someones house without asking is hardly comparable with smoking in an outdoor public area of a pub. At the end of the day I couldnae give a dugs dangler one way or the other so, you just crack on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I don't smoke but why you would expect someone to ask if its ok is beyond me.

    Original point confirmed!

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    Anyone smoking in my vicinity annoys me so I get the OP completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibby View Post
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    Anyone smoking in my vicinity annoys me so I get the OP completely.
    Me too. I think there should be smoking rooms with tight doors and ban smoking outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. S View Post
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    Me too. I think there should be smoking rooms with tight doors and ban smoking outdoors
    I used to smoke about 30 years ago however, these days the smell that comes off smokers almost makes me vomit.
    In their defence, I'm sure they have no concept of how bad the smell is to others so I can understand their indifference when people complain about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    I used to smoke about 30 years ago however, these days the smell that comes off smokers almost makes me vomit.
    In their defence, I'm sure they have no concept of how bad the smell is to others so I can understand their indifference when people complain about it.
    Im an ex smoker too, 20 something years and am just mega grumpy about smokers smoking near me. Im unreasonable and I know it

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    One day my partner and I were in a beer garden and this guy sitting next to us started going radge, ranting about smoking and calling us “ignorant *******s”.

    I mean, how rude! He could at least of tried asking us politely to stop smoking if he didn’t like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
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    One day my partner and I were in a beer garden and this guy sitting next to us started going radge, ranting about smoking and calling us “ignorant *******s”.

    I mean, how rude! He could at least of tried asking us politely to stop smoking if he didn’t like it.
    If they are not doing anything why is there a need to politely ask them anything.

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    Probably for the peeve thread....seperate outside smoking areas/tables. As if we're not castigated enough.

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    For me it's whether they have the decency to make sure the smoke isn't wafting in my direction or if they are ignorant bassas who dont give a monkey's if their 2ns hand smoke is choking and blinding someone to death.

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    Kind of agree with the OP here. If they smokers had sat at a different table then I think they’re fair game to smoke, if they’ve sat at the same table then it’s just common courtesy to ask.

    i don’t smoke myself, never have, but I do have friends who do, and in my experience they are all very conscious of where the smoke wafts, often they’ll move themself or get me to move so the smoke isn’t blowing towards me.

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