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    Rangers and abuse

    When approached by a victim of Gordon Neely's abuse Rangers have pointed him to old Rangers' liquidatiors claiming the company Rangers 2012 have nothing to do with these historic abuses. Quite disgusting how vocal they are about being the same club but run a mile when a victim comes to them for support http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44126217?ns_linkname=scotland&ns_campaign=bbc_spor tsound&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter


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    When approached by a victim of Gordon Neely's abuse Rangers have pointed him to old Rangers' liquidatiors claiming the company Rangers 2012 have nothing to do with these historic abuses. Quite disgusting how vocal they are about being the same club but run a mile when a victim comes to them for support http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...source=twitter
    Yes agree, they were horrible as the old club and probably worse as the new one

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    Quote Originally Posted by scuttle View Post
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    Yes agree, they were horrible as the old club and probably worse as the new one
    Two cheeks, same bloated horrible erse

    Scotlands shame though, Scotland doesn't want them and neither does their much loved England.

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    Disgraceful. They really are **** of the earth and this is proof if any was needed that they are NOT the same club.

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    A disgusting way to treat victims of abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scuttle View Post
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    Yes agree, they were horrible as the old club and probably worse as the new one
    Very true

    I would say The Rangers are far worse than the old

    This lot don't even pretend to be in the tent pissing out

    Its very sad that they had the chance to reinvent themselves and did so in at best an equally bad reincarnation of the old and at worst something far more sinister.

    Oldco when its suits them for honours etc but quite happy to walk away from any baggage from Oldco whether legal or moral if they can.

    They are in a very small minority but there must be decent Rangers supporters out there, I would like to imagine that they are very unhappy with Newco and its handling of various matters.

    Maybe I am paying them credit they don't deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by givescotlandfreedom View Post
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    When approached by a victim of Gordon Neely's abuse Rangers have pointed him to old Rangers' liquidatiors claiming the company Rangers 2012 have nothing to do with these historic abuses. Quite disgusting how vocal they are about being the same club but run a mile when a victim comes to them for support http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...source=twitter
    Low as it gets.

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    Very true

    I would say The Rangers are far worse than the old

    This lot don't even pretend to be in the tent pissing out

    Its very sad that they had the chance to reinvent themselves and did so in at best an equally bad reincarnation of the old and at worst something far more sinister.

    Oldco when its suits them for honours etc but quite happy to walk away from any baggage from Oldco whether legal or moral if they can.

    They are in a very small minority but there must be decent Rangers supporters out there, I would like to imagine that they are very unhappy with Newco and its handling of various matters.

    Maybe I am paying them credit they don't deserve


    As an aside, guess who wrote this little nugget in 2012?

    Some Rangers fans believe the club's history, which would end with liquidation, must be protected but there is a shameful part of that history which they should want to forget and any newco should make it clear a new beginning means exactly that.

    A new club open to all from the very beginning.

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    As an aside, guess who wrote this little nugget in 2012?
    Jim Traynor

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    Fixed your URL as not posted as a link mate...

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    Was going to start a thread but figured this fits here.... something not quite right in that lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSEJVT View Post
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    Very true

    I would say The Rangers are far worse than the old

    This lot don't even pretend to be in the tent pissing out

    Its very sad that they had the chance to reinvent themselves and did so in at best an equally bad reincarnation of the old and at worst something far more sinister.

    Oldco when its suits them for honours etc but quite happy to walk away from any baggage from Oldco whether legal or moral if they can.

    They are in a very small minority but there must be decent Rangers supporters out there, I would like to imagine that they are very unhappy with Newco and its handling of various matters.

    Maybe I am paying them credit they don't deserve
    Absolutely this. Nobody wants to use historic child abuse in football for point scoring, but in this case its perfectly valid. As you say, they want all the glory of the old club and get incredibly defensive when folk say they aren't the same club, even to the point of accusing folk of having an agenda against them and making veiled and not so veiled threats against anybody who dares to challenge their claim to the legacy of the oldco.

    And yet the second they are asked to take responsibility for any of the negatives of the oldco they say it has nothing to do with them. The utter lack of moral fortitude and shameless denial of what even the thickest knuckle dragger must realise is a ridiculous paradox ( to quote them ) 'beggars belief'

    That's the real tragedy of one of the biggest, if not the biggest. club in Scottish football being brought low like they were. The only positive from the whole situation was that the had the chance to reinvent themselves as something far better and even show a little humility along the way. Instead they have gotten even worse, if that were possible, and ramped up the 'whitabootery' bigotry' and paranoia.

    Absolutely horrible club and the shame of Scottish football.

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    Treating a child abuse victim like a creditor is about as low as it gets.


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    Was going to start a thread but figured this fits here.... something not quite right in that lot!

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    This Is the lowest of the low. O’Halloran is a football player

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    They really are vile.

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    Jim Traynor
    Correct!

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    I hope the next time they spend themselves into oblivion it's for good, an absolute stain on Scotland.

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    I honestly think that response is an absolute disgrace. They are either the same club or they are not. They can't pick and choose the parts from the old club they like and dismiss the bits that don't suit them.

    What a shocking way to treat an alleged victim of sexual abuse and proof if anyone actually needed it about how morally corrupt that club is from top to bottom.
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    That club and it’s former being truly are literally the **** of the earth. Sevco bask in the pluses of the former self but reject all the negatives associated with it. Surely it’s about time the SFA struck off the honours claimed by the new outfit. It’s also rich that their muppet support castigate their ugly sisters’ sexual dishonour but make no mention of their own.

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    I actually routed for them in the Cup winners cup as a 13 year old in 72 as you backed Scottish teams in Europe. I was then educated and despised them since and the new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    That club and it’s former being truly are literally the **** of the earth. Sevco bask in the pluses of the former self but reject all the negatives associated with it. Surely it’s about time the SFA struck off the honours claimed by the new outfit. It’s also rich that their muppet support castigate their ugly sisters’ sexual dishonour but make no mention of their own.
    How can they claim to be 'the people' when they don't even look after their own?
    And another thing, I thought they 'don't do walking away'?
    TBH, this is as bad PR as there's ever been from Ibrox.

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    The muppets on FF, discussing this issue, are laying the blame on Hibernian Football Club, for not naming and shaming this sexual predator for his behaviour at ER., before he was employed at Greyskull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    The muppets on FF, discussing this issue, are laying the blame on Hibernian Football Club, for not naming and shaming this sexual predator for his behaviour at ER., before he was employed at Greyskull.
    Why are they so worried since their club has said he was employed by a different club to the one they now support?
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    Posted this on the main Meltdown thread:


    The problem with the whole debacle is that they've fought tooth and nail to keep the history.... But will only take the good bits.*
    Having this abuser on their books is as much part of their history as winning a trophy at some point in the 80s.


    The argument is that the club is separate from the company but it's the same club it always has been etc....*

    Well then, its the club that has responsibility. They shouldn't be afraid to meet victims, hear them out with courtesy and provide a measure of dignity. That is ultimately what is desired - whatever about a financial claim going in against the liquidators and the old co.

    It is reprensible to try and pass this particular boy onto the liquidators of old co.....*
    And to deny a victim (who is a season ticket holder, and presumably been on their books for a period of time) an opportunity to meet and talk About what had happened to him (while in the care of the club) is the most abhorrent and genuinely disgusting part of this entire sorry saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Two cheeks, same bloated horrible erse

    Scotlands shame though, Scotland doesn't want them and neither does their much loved England.

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    They took Seansea and Cardiff from Wales? Surely they have to take the weegie pair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    They took Seansea and Cardiff from Wales? Surely they have to take the weegie pair?
    But they just slightly dislike each other on footballing grounds?

    Or on the basis that one or the other is from the wrong part of Wales or slightly less Welsh than the other.

    Hardly compares to the original ugly sisters


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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    This Is the lowest of the low. O’Halloran is a football player
    Not sure giving the muppets air time in the paper is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FitbaFolkKen View Post
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    Was going to start a thread but figured this fits here.... something not quite right in that lot!

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1..._church_visit/
    Utter disgrace but entirely predictable.

    It's ok though, it's just a minority.
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    When it comes to the titles and the glory it's all "we're the same club, we're still the most successful in the world etc etc" but any mention of the debt, the scandal etc and suddenly they have nothing to do with it, that was the old rangers and all that.

    **** then. **** now. **** Forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranraer View Post
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    A disgusting way to treat victims of abuse.
    Exactly. Brushing them off just like they did to their creditors.

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