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    The Israelis

    Thought the Iraeli butchers deserved a mention gunning down Palestinian protesters at the Gaza border, 60 dead and thousands injured.


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    Watched Louis Theroux's "The Ultra Zionists" and it was scary how many Israeli's believe that the Palestinians are second class citizens. Yesterday's events just prove how brutal the Israeli's are.

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    Israel's Ambassador to London on R4 this morning reckoned that live fire was justified because Palestinians approached the fence with wirecutters.

    What an absolute ****ing Nazi. There is no other word for him.

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    I have watched this type of Israeli army behaviour over many years and I am truly astonished that they get away with it.

    The soldiers must have a collective blood lust.

    The most incredulous fact is that they are doing to rioting civilians what the Nazis did to Jews in 1930/40's.

    If one Nazi soldier was murdered by a Jew then 10 were executed in return. The irony of it. Yet not one soldier has died in the riots, I believe.

    Trump would have been warned that the riots would happen with the re location of their embassy against all international protocol

    and he went ahead anyway. He is, in my opinion, cruel and utterly unconcerned.

    I stipulate I am referring to some members of the Israeli army and not to Jews or Judaism per se.

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    I have watched this type of Israeli army behaviour over many years and I am truly astonished that they get away with it.

    The soldiers must have a collective blood lust.

    The most incredulous fact is that they are doing to rioting civilians what the Nazis did to Jews in 1930/40's.

    If one Nazi soldier was murdered by a Jew then 10 were executed in return. The irony of it. Yet not one soldier has died in the riots, I believe.

    Trump would have been warned that the riots would happen with the re location of their embassy against all international protocol

    and he went ahead anyway. He is, in my opinion, cruel and utterly unconcerned.

    I stipulate I am referring to some members of the Israeli army and not to Jews or Judaism per se.
    I'm not sure about that. It's clear the commanders (ultimately Netanyahu) of the soldiers are callous *******s who see Palestinian children as easy targets to make their point. Unfortunately, on the Palestinian side, Hamas sees their own children as expendable martyrs to make their point.

    The whole thing is sickening.

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    Yitzhak Rabin was a good leader, the best the Israelis ever had, but he was assassinated by a right wing fanatic. He had tried to make peace with the Palestinians and signed the Oslo Accord with Yasser Arafat. From then on its been one right wing fanatical leader after another. Trump won't give a ****- it's a long, long way from the rednecks that voted him in.

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    Israel and the Jewish people have made the full circle, they've now gone from being victims to become the perpetrators. History will not remember them well.

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    Israel and the Jewish people have made the full circle, they've now gone from being victims to become the perpetrators. History will not remember them well.
    Iím not sure if you meant it like that but itís not Ďthe Jewish peopleí. Itís Israel. There are plenty of Jews who are appalled at what is going on.

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    Watched Louis Theroux's "The Ultra Zionists" and it was scary how many Israeli's believe that the Palestinians are second class citizens. Yesterday's events just prove how brutal the Israeli's are.
    That's an interesting documentary, for many if the Palestinians don't like it they can go to Jordan.

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    Iím not sure if you meant it like that but itís not Ďthe Jewish peopleí. Itís Israel. There are plenty of Jews who are appalled at what is going on.
    I was friends at uni with a guy who was Jewish. He was raised in Chicago but his Dad was from Beit Shemesh in Israel, very close to the West Bank, and he had spent his formative years there. His paternal fanily were all ultra right wing and strongly believed in the ideals of Zionism. His Dad had been ostracised because he had at 1st began to question his parents and grandparents beliefs and ended up being a pretty outspoken critic of Israeli policy within his community. There was a killing in Beit Shemesh in the 90s of schoolgirls by a Jordanian soldier and after that his families stance hardened and he was eventually forced to leave for the USA and later Belgium. He had huge respect for his Dad and often spoke of his confusion growing up when he compared his life to the Palestinian children he encountered on a daily basis.

    I think he found it hard being both Jewish and a critic of Israel. He was hugely excited to return to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem for a summer but felt guilty about enjoying it. He was treated with pretty open distrust by both Muslims, he was also a pretty vocal critic of Hamas, and other Jews within our social circle.

    There's no real point to my post other than to reaffirm your point that many Jews are appaled by the actions of the Israeli Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Iím not sure if you meant it like that but itís not Ďthe Jewish peopleí. Itís Israel. There are plenty of Jews who are appalled at what is going on.
    I actually did mean it like that. The history of the Jewish people and that of the state of Israel are entwined in a similar way to the Germans and the Nazis. Many people will be able to make the distinction but most won't.

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    The whole thing is a bloody nightmare and it doesn't look like there will ever be a solution.

    Trumps frankly insane decision to relocate the US embassy to Jerusalem is proving to be the catalyst for murder and maiming everybody 'apart from him apparently' knew it would be. To the Palestinians it was like the final nail being hammered into the coffin of any hope that the US could or would ever play the part of peace broker in the middle east.

    Trump I presume will have nothing to say about Israel's illegal under international law occupation of the west bank ... the law being that a country ( any country ) which occupies part of another country as a result of conflict cannot use it to re settle its own population, something Israel has been doing for decades with its various ruling parties paying little more than lip service to removing Jewish settlers. The practice is illegal under international law almost totally as a result of the Nazis policy of 'Lebensraum' ... the policy aimed at removing the indigenous populations of eastern Europe and replacing them with ethnic Germans ... how ironic is that?

    As for Jerusalem itself ..... given its importance to three of the worlds most popular religions, and the inevitable conflict that was going to surround it, what should have happened is that at the end of WWII the city should have been declared an independent state in its own right run by a committee of Jewish, Christian and Muslim administrators appointed by the UN .... It might not have been perfect, but surely better than the mess we have now. Hell, even the Americans saw the sense of ensuring that none of its 50 states could lay claim to being the home of the country's capital.

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