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    James Connolly was born in the Cowgate 150 years ago today

    Son of Irish immigrants
    Childhood Hibs fan
    Socialist
    trade union organiser
    writer and thinker
    leader of the Irish Citizen Army raised to resist the police brutality aimed at the workers during the Dublin lockout of 1913
    Signatory of the proclamation of Irish Independence
    revolutionary and soldier
    executed tied to a chair in 1916 for his role in the Easter Rising

    Irish National Hero
    Hero of the Working Class
    largely ignored in his home city


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    James Connolly Stand surely instead of the South Stand?
    Sevco fans would love sitting there 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canon Hannan View Post
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    James Connolly Stand surely instead of the South Stand?
    Sevco fans would love sitting there 😁

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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion.

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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion
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    What has that got to do with anything that has been said so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion.
    Agreed and something Connolly was a great advocate of ......not a sectarian bone in his body
    A staunch supporter of the working class whether they be Belfast Protestants or Dublin Catholics
    Dont fall for the monstrous untruth that ties people like Connolly to sectarianism , that is one of the main things Connolly fought against ....because he saw Britain dividing the Irish along religious lines in order to divide and rule ....he was fighting for the working class and against imperialism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canon Hannan View Post
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    James Connolly Stand surely instead of the South Stand?
    Sevco fans would love sitting there 😁
    Might not need to cut their allocation they'll do it themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton View Post
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    Son of Irish immigrants
    Childhood Hibs fan
    Socialist
    trade union organiser
    writer and thinker
    leader of the Irish Citizen Army raised to resist the police brutality aimed at the workers during the Dublin lockout of 1913
    Signatory of the proclamation of Irish Independence
    revolutionary and soldier
    executed tied to a chair in 1916 for his role in the Easter Rising

    Irish National Hero
    Hero of the Working Class
    largely ignored in his home city
    He has a plaque commemorating where he was born.

    the fact that he was the leader of an attempted revolution against the British State during WW1 may preclude the city fathers of Edinburgh ever raising a statue to him though?

    I also suppose that he is best known for his contribution to the development of trade unions in the USA and for his role in the Easter uprising, rather than his contribution to Edinburgh life might be a factor too.

    Edit: having just been reading more about Connolly, it’s fair to say he contributed on Scottish basis and as a true internationalist.

    I’ll raise a glass to him. His book “Socialism made Easy” certainly help focus my adolescent beliefs on the certainty that equality and social justice were worthy causes.
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    Darlington Hibee here is James Connolly featuring on the Durham Miners Banner

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    I'm not disputing what he achieved, my grandfather fought for farm workers rights.

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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion.
    Despite providing us with your background to give your comments some credence, you clearly do not know what you are talking about. This has nothing to do with Celtic, who you have introduced into the conversation to have a sideways swipe at. They are also an all inclusive club, just like us.

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    I have given an opinion, I love hibernian football club and the ethos of the club (as does Neil). I don't really care about either of the old firm. I detest bigotry.

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    It's time James Connolly was properly recognised in Edinburgh.

    He's one of many sons and daughters of the city who rather than being recognised are reduced to footnotes. The easy sell of tartan tat and ghost stories paints the view of the city sold to visitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    I have given an opinion, I love hibernian football club and the ethos of the club (as does Neil). I don't really care about either of the old firm. I detest bigotry.
    As did James Connolly , don't fall for the people who try to pigeon hole Connolly as one side of a religious divide ..... there isn't a scintilla of truth or evidence that Connolly was anything other than focused on the Welfare of the Working class from whatever background and his belief that only breaking ties with Britain would allow the Irish to replace religious labels hung on them by the British with the common name of Irishmen and women
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    Edinburgh man, James Connolly wanted to unite all faiths and none under the banner of fairness. He was: a Hibby; an anti imperialist; an anti royalist and an anti capitalist - was and is a hero to many. What’s not to like?😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    He has a plaque commemorating where he was born.

    the fact that he was the leader of an attempted revolution against the British State during WW1 may preclude the city fathers of Edinburgh ever raising a statue to him though?

    I also suppose that he is best known for his contribution to the development of trade unions in the USA and for his role in the Easter uprising, rather than his contribution to Edinburgh life might be a factor too.

    Edit: having just been reading more about Connolly, it’s fair to say he contributed on Scottish basis and as a true internationalist.

    I’ll raise a glass to him. His book “Socialism made Easy” certainly help focus my adolescent beliefs on the certainty that equality and social justice were worthy causes.
    My Dad played a large part in persuading the council to initially put up the commemorative plaque. For many years it was vandalised & replaced so I'm pleased to hear the latest iteration remains in place.

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    hopefully the flag will return next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee View Post
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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion.
    Can you explain what exactly James Connolly has to do with celtic, or religion please? Genuinely curious about where you are coming from....!

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    Tin hat on hear, I have read a great deal about Ireland from 1916 through to the troubles and the peace process, have worked in various cities both North and south, and my grandparents were from dublin.

    As a Hibs fan we should always respect our heritage, but I don't want us to be a mini Celtc.

    We are an all inclusive club no matter race, creed or religion.
    What does any of this this have to do with the 150th birthday of James Connolly or Celtic or religion.?

    A truly great man who died for his beliefs but his legacy now lives on through the rich and hugely respected country of Ireland.

    Being a Hibs ball boy and Hibs supporter is the very least of his achievements but nonetheless worth a footnote in his historical relevance.
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    This thread should be on the Holy Ground forum rather than the main football forum.

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    I would love to see a film telling his story, especially if they could involve the foundation of Hibs in his childhood.

    Does Irvine Welsh not fancy calling some of his Hollywood buddies and getting them on the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    This thread should be on the Holy Ground forum rather than the main football forum.

    I dunno. It’s a wee bit like talking about the proclaimers or Andy Murray.

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    What has that got to do with anything that has been said so far?

    I realise Connolly is a hero to many but I think we should stick to celebrating those that mean something to Hibs for purely football reasons, not trying to associate ourselves with a long gone, potentially divisive political figure.

    Let's leave arguments about Irish Political figures to Rantic, irrespective of where they were born or which team they supported as a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Effen Bee View Post
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    Edinburgh man, James Connolly wanted to unite all faiths and none under the banner of fairness. He was: a Hibby; an anti imperialist; an anti royalist and an anti capitalist - was and is a hero to many. What’s not to like?😁
    And not all Hibbies will be anti-imperialist, anti-royalist or anti-capitalist which is why it should be nothing to do with Hibs.

    Agree he should have more recognition within Scotland and Edinburgh as an important political figure. (Even though i dont think someone who was part of a revolution aginst Britain in the middle of the Great War should be celebrated within the UK.)

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    Undoubtedly one of Hibernian most famous sons. I was aware of James Connolly's 150th approaching but it went right out of my head today until I saw this thread (thanks Stanton).
    What is regularly overlooked is Connolly's support of the suffragette movement and votes for women generally.
    The man achieved greatness from humble beginnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barcahibs View Post
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    And not all Hibbies will be anti-imperialist, anti-royalist or anti-capitalist which is why it should be nothing to do with Hibs.

    Agree he should have more recognition within Scotland and Edinburgh as an important political figure. (Even though i dont think someone who was part of a revolution aginst Britain in the middle of the Great War should be celebrated within the UK.)

    While this is definitely veering into holy ground territory, I’d hope everyone is anti-imperialist nowadays.

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    I realise Connolly is a hero to many but I think we should stick to celebrating those that mean something to Hibs for purely football reasons, not trying to associate ourselves with a long gone, potentially divisive political figure.

    Let's leave arguments about Irish Political figures to Rantic, irrespective of where they were born or which team they supported as a kid.
    The person I quoted said something about wanting us to be open to anyone of any race or colour. I don't see how that has anything to do with what's being discussed and I think that - as well as using the phrase 'mini Celtic' - is pretty reductive and insulting.

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    I dunno. It’s a wee bit like talking about the proclaimers or Andy Murray.
    The difference is that both are relevant now and linked to Hibs.
    The Proclaimers are inextricably linked to Hibs through "Sunshine on Leith" & Andy Murray is our countries greatest ever sportsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant Stone View Post
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    The person I quoted said something about wanting us to be open to anyone of any race or colour. I don't see how that has anything to do with what's being discussed and I think that - as well as using the phrase 'mini Celtic' - is pretty reductive and insulting.
    Indeed and anyone even vaguely familiar with Connolly's life and works would be aware that he embodied those very principles.

    I find it genuinely sad that some folks can only view Connolly through the prism of old firm jingoism and therefore get all jumpy about celebrating or even being interested in one of Edinburgh's greatest sons, whose entire manifesto was the very antithesis of sectarian nonsense. **** celtic and the huns, they dont get to cast a shadow on the history of our city like that.

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