That's a ****ing Understatement AldoThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I would be Gutted as would Lennon
Can't see why he would think that was a step up unless more money and feeling they can finish second and win a Cup and progress in Europe
Finishing second is what they have done consistently and clearly they would love to get Dylan strengthening them and weakening us
But have said from their first interest I didn't think he would go there
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Thread: Summer transfer thread
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27-06-2018 08:58 PM #3901
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27-06-2018 08:58 PM #3902
As things stand just now, we'll be starting the season with the same team as last season with kamberi replacing stokes & nocgeouch. Hoping to see some movement soon
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27-06-2018 09:04 PM #3903
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27-06-2018 09:09 PM #3904
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As I said, we don’t need signings to get through the first round. But if there isn’t much in the way of movement soon, how do you get your new players (I know they’ll come at some point) up to speed for the tougher tests to follow?
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27-06-2018 09:16 PM #3906This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tbh someone else has replied with my thoughts better than me since i posted.
We don’t need wholesale changes so fornus being as ready as we are now is fine, we’re not playing tomorrow. We need a big squad for the season, not for the first game and even then I’m sure we’ll have a couple of players in before the faroes game.
I’ve lead the panic from the front in previous years but I’m just not seeing it this year, we’ve got a decent team and squad now and plenty time to add the finishing touches, don’t see the fuss at all.
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27-06-2018 09:25 PM #3907
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Bit light in midfield, but slivka and Swanson in for Allan and mcgeouch isn't too bad. Shaw for McLaren is a step down, but should be good enough to get us through the first leg at least.
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27-06-2018 09:38 PM #3908This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-06-2018 09:42 PM #3909
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27-06-2018 09:48 PM #3910
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So you're looking at adding one/two midfielders. One winger and one striker to be on an even keel to last season?
Hardly major surgery and I'd rather we wait and get the right ones as we have for seasons now than wind up signing the yam rejects.
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27-06-2018 09:48 PM #3911
Some people really need to calm down. Yes in an ideal world we’d have all our signings in for day one of pre season but that is never going to happen. Our squad currently is capable of putting 5/6 past a part time team from the faroes id actually expect us to beat the faroes national team. The fact we’ve not picked up a lot of players as of yet suggests to me we are identifying our targets and don’t want any “2nd best” players we’re willing to wait and get the right players. Our closest rivals have signed 10+ I think and if I’m totally honest I don’t think I’d take any of them with us, that’s the standard of player you get this early in the market. You can’t take players from other clubs before they’ve got a replacement 9 tones out of 10, for instance I’m sure Barnsley and Celtic will want to ensure they’ve covered all bases before offloading Mallan and Allan. The same way we all expect to have our squad in shape before perhaps offloading simon murray etc. The full transfer window doesn’t revolve around hibs, have faith in the club and I’m sure we’ll be absolutely fine and have another fantastic season.
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27-06-2018 09:50 PM #3912
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It must be obvious to everyone that until McGinn’s situation becomes clear to the club there won’t be any dramatic changes in midfield.
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27-06-2018 10:03 PM #3913This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 05:38 AM #3914This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Those 4 players make us a massively better team so without them we are significantly weaker.Last edited by Since90+2; 28-06-2018 at 05:41 AM.
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28-06-2018 05:52 AM #3915
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There must be an issue that’s preventing him signing elsewhere - Lennon told us in May he was away and yet here we are still sitting with our fingers crossed he re-signs.
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28-06-2018 06:46 AM #3916This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We play all season for this to be the prize and our preparation for these games is far from ideal, be it because the players we bring in won’t have had much of a pre season training with Hibs or the players might not even be signed at all by that point.
If we have to put out a make shift team in Europe and end up going out I’ll be very disappointed and I’m going to hazard a guess Lennon would be absolutely furious at the board seeing as he’s aiming for the group stages.
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28-06-2018 06:55 AM #3917
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28-06-2018 06:57 AM #3918This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We'll need more than that to beat the Greek team.
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28-06-2018 07:08 AM #3919This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 07:12 AM #3920
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28-06-2018 07:12 AM #3921This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Obviously we need to keep our quality of players up, but it's important to remember that our squad is still very capable.
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28-06-2018 07:17 AM #3922This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-06-2018 07:37 AM #3923
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Do you honestly think the club are sitting on their hands waiting for something to happen?
I am sure they are even more frustrated than you are about the length of time it has taken to finalise transfers. As the targets we are going for are better quality players they will have options and will do what is in their best interests. Look at the Kamberi transfer, it took to the last minute and a dash over to Switzerland to make sure the deal was not scuppered by Grasshoppers.
Take Dylan as another example, he is holding out for the best deal he can get, the same might be said about SJM. Players will be told by their agents they have these different options and will maximise what they can get for their client.
Alternatively clubs may not let players go until they have the replacement in place.
I'm afraid patience is the key.
Alternatively we could just sign a whole batch of players to keep things moving along. Is their any player who has gone elsewhere that you wish Hibs had signed.
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28-06-2018 07:40 AM #3924
Marciano? Ambrose. McGregor. Hanlon. Stevenson. Boyle/Whitty/Gray. Slivka. Bartley. Swanson. Kamberi and Shaw.
That's a team that SHOULD, COMFORTABLY, be beating one of the lowest ranked teams in the euro qualifiers.
And to be honest, isn't much, if any worse than the team that lost on pens to Brondby. We've a core that's played together for a while so aren't heading in with players who haven't played together before.
Relax, the club will be making moves in the market. We've 4 weeks until we should be facing a tough challenge from Greece. I'm confident we'll have our primary targets in by then
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28-06-2018 07:55 AM #3925
There seems to be a bit of panicking over what has and not happened yet in this transfer window. Now far be it for me to put them down, but a bit of realism is needed here.
It is still early, we will bring players in, that is a given. Who leaves and comes back from last season is not done or settled yet, but those who do leave will be replaced, and those who might come back will be great.
As for Europe, i'm not worried about this at all, we might get emptied by this team from the Faroes, but as i said im not worried about this.
I want us to be a club who participate in Europe every season, but to do this we must get a team together who either win that cup again, or as i'd prefer, win that place through our league position.
And to do this, we must recruit the right players, and they take time.
Now as i said, we might get emptied, although i dont think we will with what we currently have. We need to look after our league position first, and build a side thats will regularly finish 4th or better is the way forward to having a team that might do better in Europe.
We were asked by the club for patience while the infrastructure was put in place, we have done that, and are starting to see the fruits of this, Europe is the next step, but we still have work to do on the team for this to work, and regular qualification for this needs a strong domestic league season.
We need about 4 players if Dylan does not come back, SJM leaves and Allan and McLaren dont return.
Until we see how this all pans out, i wont be reaching for the washing machine yet, and of course if they did all leave, as i said, they will be replaced, and the money we get from the sale of SJM will make things easier for Lennon.
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28-06-2018 08:23 AM #3926
The problem we face is the better we perform the more rebuilding we'll inevitably need to do in summer windows. Our best players will be poached. Dylan, McGinn, Barker, Allan etc are all attracting interest from bigger clubs (Allan playing for Celtic yesterday) which makes it difficult for us. The better we do the harder it becomes. Kamberi was a major coup and whoever did the loan deal with an option to buy needs commended. That might be the way forward for us. We're becoming victims of our own relative success really. What i like about Hibs just now is that we aren't going out and panic buying like Hearts for instance. We're taking our time to get the right players in, the right characters, the right mentality as well as the required ability. I think we're pretty savvy on that front with Lennon, Craig and Dempster. I have nothing but the utmost confidence in out recruitment policy.
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28-06-2018 08:28 AM #3927This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Might fit in with him moving EPL side rumour I heard yesterday and the post from someone about let the dominoes fall.
I think John moving is key to players coming in .
Oh to be a fly on LD wall
Can someone bug Neil's phone
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28-06-2018 08:35 AM #3928
I do think that Neil Lennon may have raised the stakes with his comments about wanting to do something in Europe.
We were always going to get a challenging second tie (with the first one likely to be relatively straightforward but still a banana skin).
The problem we had was the nature of the squad during the second half of last season, with so many players due to leave over this summer. As the transfer window shut in January, it was clear that this summer would be a bit of a re-build.
A summer of re-build and a need for European success don't really go together well.
I can understand folk being a bit anxious - I'm a bit anxious myself. But it is important that we don't sacrifice long term success by panicking in the transfer market in order to get players in to give us a better chance in an early European tie.
Rowan Vine anyone?
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28-06-2018 08:36 AM #3929
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