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    And you base this on what?
    Based on absolutely **** all but guess work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    Barker still fancies himself as a big time player and will always pick the "bigger" club. If Rangers/Hull are seriously interested then we've no chance.
    If that really is the case he will go to Hull. Der hun and ourselves are competing for 2nd place in SPL, Scottish cup, Lauge cup and Europa league qualifiers. Hull will give him greater exposure in England. No matter who the Hun manager is they are still a basket case of a club and financially and football wise miles and miles behind celtic

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    Quote Originally Posted by York Hibees View Post
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    Fulham turn down 20m bid from West Ham for Tom Cairney WTF. On SSN.

    Still waiting on Celtic offering Alan plus 1 million for Mcginn 😂
    Jeezo!! Not seen much of him tbf. Saw him for Scotland and he was terrible! Sure he is s good player though.

    This is why I would prefer to sell McGinn to an English team. One or two good seasons and he’ll go for triple. Get a big percentage on a future transfer fee and we’ll be quids in.

    Sign for Celtic and he’ll get lazy and stay there.

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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
    So you don’t want to potentially finish second and challenge for cups ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
    That is how it works with loans. Players go out to play first team football and if they do well they are going to attract interest. Guess lot more clubs will pay higher percent of his wage now so we will struggle to get another loan for him.
    Cougars!!!

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    Surely the player decides where he will play or he doesnt go?

    Man City have got billions so I don’t think because the rangers pay £2-3 k more per week it will make a difference.

    Brandon knows the hibs set up and that he’s likely gonna get regular games with us?

    The rangers offer no such guarantees.

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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
    Don't see the logic there.
    We should turn down good players in case they go elsewhere?

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    Anyone that thinks Barker isn't good enough to start the majority of games for The Rangers is kidding themselves. When fit he was amazing for us and one of the first names on the team sheet. They just finished ahead of us. It's Rangers we're talking about here not some amazing team full of great wingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM1875 View Post
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    Anyone that thinks Barker isn't good enough to start the majority of games for The Rangers is kidding themselves. When fit he was amazing for us and one of the first names on the team sheet. They just finished ahead of us. It's Rangers we're talking about here not some amazing team full of great wingers.
    Only started 16 out of 40 games for Hibs. Not exactly first name on team sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porthibbie View Post
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    Only started 16 out of 40 games for Hibs. Not exactly first name on team sheet.
    Clever to include the games he was out injured for 4 months.

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    Clever to include the games he was out injured for 4 months.
    What 4 months , He seemed to be injured from 17th Feb and returned on 21st April missing 7 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch View Post
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    Don't see the logic there.
    We should turn down good players in case they go elsewhere?
    My point is that deals like Kamberi are the way to go, or taking a more experienced pro in for a year who is ready to be a first team player week in week out (I.e. McLaren).

    I just feel folk like Barker (or Watmore before him) are often not quite ready. We end up blooding them with the usual inconsistencies you get with young players but if they start to show promise, there is no chance we'll get them permanently.

    If it's our own youngster or someone we have a decent chance of signing at the end of the loan that's fine but young players who aren't much better than what we have, and won't ever be a Hibs player permanently, aren't necessarily great options.

    Barker is the perfect example here. He did fine for us last year but was no better than Boyle and his overall goals and assist stats weren't anything special. If he was a Hibs player it wouldn't bother me as he's still improving but what's happened is he's had a decent end to the season and could well end up with one of our rivals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    My point is that deals like Kamberi are the way to go, or taking a more experienced pro in for a year who is ready to be a first team player week in week out (I.e. McLaren).

    I just feel folk like Barker (or Watmore before him) are often not quite ready. We end up blooding them with the usual inconsistencies you get with young players but if they start to show promise, there is no chance we'll get them permanently.

    If it's our own youngster or someone we have a decent chance of signing at the end of the loan that's fine but young players who aren't much better than what we have, and won't ever be a Hibs player permanently, aren't necessarily great options.

    Barker is the perfect example here. He did fine for us last year but was no better than Boyle and his overall goals and assist stats weren't anything special. If he was a Hibs player it wouldn't bother me as he's still improving but what's happened is he's had a decent end to the season and could well end up with one of our rivals.
    Barker was ready enough to make a decent impact and was a great player to have in the squad, as would have been the case with Watmore, who took an injury pretty early in his loan spell.

    Not in the least concerned about a loanee coming in and doing well, in case they end up at a rival club. Struggling to think of any example of this happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porthibbie View Post
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    What 4 months , He seemed to be injured from 17th Feb and returned on 21st April missing 7 games.
    He missed 101 days through injury last season, which covered 13 games.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bran...spieler/214927

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    He missed 101 days through injury last season, which covered 13 games.

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bran...spieler/214927
    Sorry , I was only counting games when he was with Hibs , Not Jan 2017.when he was with Breda.

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    Any Hibs rumours?
    Nary a one.

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    Petrie has a third nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Petrie has a third nipple.
    He will have got it for a low price to be fair, being Petrie

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    Petrie is bringing sexy back

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    Petrie is bringing sexy back
    Old players coming back never work out

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Old players coming back never work out

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    Are you saying that we're bringing back Leigh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
    Thank f*** you didn't manage Hibs in 2016.

    A certain Liam Henderson wouldn't have had the chance to set up numerous goals in our glorious run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Are you saying that we're bringing back Leigh?

    Leigh coming anywhere is bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    This was always my concern with Barker. A decent season with us and he'd end up attracting bigger fish. I'm not a big fan of us getting young guys on loan who we have next to no chance of signing permanently.
    In moderation this is case. The problem with managers pre Stubbs is there were just to many loans or short term deals all going on at once.

    A player whom we have no chance of signing is fine but NL seems to only bring in loans who will be in team other managers we had all sorts of nonsense going on.

    I would happily take Brandon back as we then had a player for 2 seasons that we couldnt sign but 2 seasons is as good as IMO. If we get another term out of Barker that is outstanding effort from club.

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    Petrie has a third nipple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Leigh coming anywhere is bad news.

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    Thank f*** you didn't manage Hibs in 2016.

    A certain Liam Henderson wouldn't have had the chance to set up numerous goals in our glorious run.
    Signing a player from Celtic isn't particularly unrealistic though is it? We've signed Dylan from them and are hopefully going to get Allan back. Do you think we'll have a chance of getting Barker permanently?

    Very few young players have come on loan to us and done well (Barker has been ok, Henderson was clearly a success) but there are plenty more who were anonymous and wasted wages as well as possibly denying our own young players a chance - Feruz and Boateng spring to mind. Players from teams like City, Arsenal or Chelsea will be on money we can't touch so will never join us permanently. Therefore I don't want to see us being used as a testing ground. I'd rather got for the follow who can instantly improve us properly gambles where if we they work, we have a shot at getting them (Kamberi and Henderson). Don't think that's especially controversial.
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