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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    "The whole premisr is that people like free things..."

    Aint that the truth, especially politicians when they get to give them out!
    I spoke to a guy tonight who had a two month old baby. I asked him if he had got the baby box, he spent the next 20 minuets going on about how great the box was. He did spoil it at the end by saying it was the only thing the SNP have got right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I spoke to a guy tonight who had a two month old baby. I asked him if he had got the baby box, he spent the next 20 minuets going on about how great the box was. He did spoil it at the end by saying it was the only thing the SNP have got right.
    As ive said, im not against trying it, i am against peolle making false claims about it, or getting humpty when anyone dares questuon it.

    Of course peolle like it, its a 500 odd quid giveaway, whats not to like?

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45044423

    Royal College of Midwives suggesting that baby boxes should be given to new mothers across the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Grieves View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45044423

    Royal College of Midwives suggesting that baby boxes should be given to new mothers across the UK
    And cot death charity the lullaby trust suggested it was not the best use of scarce NHS resources.

    Seems the jury remains out

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    And cot death charity the lullaby trust suggested it was not the best use of scarce NHS resources.

    Seems the jury remains out
    The jury is not out, The Royal College of Midwives and the Lullaby Trust agree that they are a better alternative to co-sleeping.

    The Lullaby Trust recognises that for some parents, who do not have a cot or Moses basket for their baby, a box may be a better alternative than co-sleeping in hazardous circumstances, such as on a sofa. We also recognise that the aim of some of the Baby Box schemes is to reduce inequality and give all babies the best start in life
    The Lullaby Trust is only referring to the NHS in England as it is the Scottish Government that picks up the costs,

    Given current pressures on public health budgets, we question whether the call to introduce the scheme across the country is the best use of resources to reduce infant deaths.
    Given a choice most new parents appear to be happy with the box and contents according to a survey



    https://www.gov.scot/Publications/2017/12/3393/4



    Some interesting US research

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a7749246.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    The jury is not out, The Royal College of Midwives and the Lullaby Trust agree that they are a better alternative to co-sleeping.



    The Lullaby Trust is only referring to the NHS in England as it is the Scottish Government that picks up the costs,



    Given a choice most new parents appear to be happy with the box and contents according to a survey



    https://www.gov.scot/Publications/2017/12/3393/4



    Some interesting US research

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a7749246.html

    That's a very binary choice!

    The jury very much remains out as to the effect in reducing cot death.

    Obviously with regards contents, people like it - it's 100s of quite worth of free stuff with no direct downside- of course people like it!

    It's like every person who buys a new car getting a good box from Halfords, and then the govt asking those people if they like what they got.

    The test of this is whether it improved cot death and early years development - nobody, not the midwives, not the ST, not you or I will know that for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    That's a very binary choice!

    The jury very much remains out as to the effect in reducing cot death.

    Obviously with regards contents, people like it - it's 100s of quite worth of free stuff with no direct downside- of course people like it!

    It's like every person who buys a new car getting a good box from Halfords, and then the govt asking those people if they like what they got.

    The test of this is whether it improved cot death and early years development - nobody, not the midwives, not the ST, not you or I will know that for a few years.
    Aye, everyone except those in the USA survey of course.

    If it is so bad why do they still give them in Finland after 75 years?
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    Christ! Some people would moan if that were given 100 pounds.

    This is a great scheme. Long may it continue and hopefully be taken up here in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    Aye, everyone except those in the USA survey of course.

    If it is so bad why do they still give them in Finland after 75 years?
    Nobody is saying it is bad. People are questioning whether it is the best use of resources, a fairly valid challenge surely?

    It was the Finnish agency responsible for it that directly contradicted the SGs claims about reduction in cot deaths, I believe. They said it was part of a raft of measures to suppprt early years development.

    It was the SG who said it would reduce cot deaths. If it does, then it's been a worthwhile idea and policy.

    If it doesn't, maybe we should accept it hasn't, and look at other ways to achieve that very worthwhile goal - that's my take on it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideHarp_Bhoy View Post
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    And cot death charity the lullaby trust suggested it was not the best use of scarce NHS resources.

    Seems the jury remains out
    It should also be noted that the lullaby trust have a vested interest as they sell Moses baskets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    It should also be noted that the lullaby trust have a vested interest as they sell Moses baskets.
    I think their raison díetre probably trumps their Moses basket income when discussing this matter but I suppose you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    It should also be noted that the lullaby trust have a vested interest as they sell Moses baskets.
    Fair point, I didn't know that.

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