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29-04-2018 09:26 PM #31
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29-04-2018 09:27 PM #32
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29-04-2018 09:28 PM #33
Personally thought it embarrassing we were calling Killie fans Huns yesterday. Seemed odd.
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29-04-2018 09:29 PM #34
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29-04-2018 09:30 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It isn't a Scotland problem; it's a Celtic and Rangers problem. It will continue to be a problem until people get over that and stop generalising.
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29-04-2018 09:59 PM #38
Nil by mouth are absolutely determined to drag Hibs into the sectarian debate, despite the only ammunition they have being the 'Hun' word which only they and Sevco seem to see as sectarian ... its not !!!
As other posters have said its time for Hibs to respond to this latest slur on the club. Nobody is pretending that we haven't had the odd isolated incident away from Easter Road by fans travelling to games, but that does not equate to a sectarian problem and absolutely pales into insignificance when measured against the real culprits in Scottish football and society in general.
Its not good enough that Nil by mouth are feeding this nonsense to the press and the press are reporting stuff as fact with no apparent attempt to actually check how things are at Easter Road. Its not good enough that individual Hibs fans are being left to defend the club and us as a support by commenting at the bottom of these newspaper articles or contacting Nil by Mouth themselves.
Many years ago Hibs made it clear that sectarianism wasn't welcome at Easter Road and the fans have responded magnificently, so much so that even when we play the poster boys for sectarianism we refuse to resort to a response in kind to their bile ..... far from being part of the problem we have set an example of what can be achieved, are we absolutely perfect? .. no, but we are damned close to it and as fans we deserve better than silence from Hibs when yet again Nil by Mouth point to us as part of the sectarian problem.
Time for us to make a statement for once.Last edited by NAE NOOKIE; 29-04-2018 at 10:14 PM.
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29-04-2018 09:59 PM #39
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Sunday Herald supports the SNP(nothing wrong with that)so this might well be a political attempt to tar football generally with a problem which really only shows to a large extent in the support of two clubs .
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29-04-2018 10:06 PM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-04-2018 10:17 PM #44
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As I read it, Nil by Mouth are proposing the Scottish Government subvert monies currently paid to the SFA and SPFL as a way to force compliance.
It seems that they (the newspaper) asked four of the bigger Scottish clubs about Nil by Mouth's proposal and:
'Both Old Firm clubs, as well as Heart of Midlothian and Hibernian, failed to respond to Sunday Herald requests for comment about Nil By Mouth's demand.'
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29-04-2018 10:21 PM #45
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The misrepresentation is probably based on the use of the word "huns" to describe The Rangers and or any support witnessed trying to emulate the huns' poisonous sectarian antics. I would like to know at what time and under who's auspices the word "hun" was alleged to have become a term used to describe someone's religion. IN Scotland it has always been used to describe the fans of The Rangers and their forebears (no pun intended) Glasgow Rangers in reference to their uncivilised and generally barbaric nature along with their tendency to swarm horde like across the landscape like some noxious human fungus (witness Manchester 2008). The fact they don't particularly like being called huns is neither here nor there. A great many Hibs fans (no idea of the exact proportion but it's certainly a large one) were brought up Church of Scotland and NO-ONE cares and NO-ONE calls them Huns.
Hibs supporters don't generally like being referred to as peg selling hoboes or spoon burners but we don't go crying wolf about sectarianism as a result. Time for NilByMouth to own up and admit they are wrong - or that they have moved the goalposts and are not simply against bigotry but also against any poor wee didums getting their feelings hurt about ANYTHING.
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29-04-2018 11:01 PM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A shame because it used to be a very good read.
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30-04-2018 12:28 AM #47This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Anyway, as others have said we should be vigourously defending ourselves against these accusations - while at the same time being careful what we wish for.
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30-04-2018 12:54 AM #48
Nil by Mouth yet again proving themselves to be complete fuds.
The word “Hun” is not sectarian.
Tricolours are in and of themselves not sectarian (whether they belong at easter road or football in general is another debate).
However, condemning us as being religious bigots because of our Irish Catholic roots is very much sectarian and orange order-esque! **** off, hopefully be some legal action against these incompetent morons
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30-04-2018 02:36 AM #49
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Agree there’s absolutely no need for us to be mentioned in the article, but other than saying we refused to comment.. do they actually say anything about us? Genuine question as I only skimmed through (took me long enough to find the article scrolling above all the old firm fans arguing about catholic schools).
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30-04-2018 02:43 AM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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30-04-2018 05:35 AM #51
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30-04-2018 05:46 AM #52
i think that it is better to ignore the provocation and attempts to tar us with the same brush as Rantic.
if we want to respond it would be better to ask for specific examples and incidents and address those in detail rather than just issuing blanket denials to vague slurs and agenda driven accusations.
I'm not clear what good it would do other than keep the accusations in the public eye and waste the time of staff at the club.
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30-04-2018 05:46 AM #53This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-04-2018 05:59 AM #54
Nil By Mouth are part of the problem when it comes to tackling sectarianism.
Rather than be honest about where the problem really lies they play along with the lie that this is a widespread problem throughout Scottish football. It's not. A majority of Hibs fans, Hearts fans, Aberdeen fans, Dundee fans, St Mirren fans and so on and so forth are not likely to indulge in behaviour that you will see elsewhere.
Finally, and this will go down like a lead balloon, if we are talking about sectarianism exclusively then it's Rangers who are the worst of the lot. Celtic fans might sing a lot of stuff that belongs nowhere near a Scottish football stadium but I struggle to think of a song they sing that really qualifies as sectarian in the way 'No Pope of Rome', the revised lyrics to Follow Follow that most of them sing or the Famine Song do.
The biggest issue is this is a societal problem and not a football one, football is just the vehicle for many to express their prejudices. As long as the right to religious freedom is intepreted in Scotland not as the right to attend the place of worship of your choice but rather to march about the streets as part of a fraternal organisation singing about murder and war then the problem continues.
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30-04-2018 06:08 AM #55
The weedgie centric media of all varieties have an active agenda of trying to paint sectarianism as a Scotland wide problem to deflect attention from their own OF backyard. Its partly due to commercial self interest and partly due to cowardice as they can tell the OF knuckle draggers that they are not targeting their clubs but "society".
Nil by mouth are part of that agenda, a weedgie based organisation, who are professional fence sitters and who have played straight into the huns narrative.
As much as I would like the club to complain, when the aforementioned agendas pursued continually by everyone from the "quality" press to BBC Scotland we'd be issuing statements with Sevco like regularity. I think a dignified silence is best.
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30-04-2018 07:17 AM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by Frazerbob; 30-04-2018 at 07:21 AM.
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30-04-2018 07:23 AM #57
Strange timing. Took an English mate to the game and was sitting up the back of the east. Cringed at hearing 2 people shout up the ra and one guy sing a different version of a song that ended in IRA.
Hadn't heard anything like that at ER since I first went. Just 3 individuals.
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30-04-2018 08:16 AM #58
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Completely embarrassing that us (and even Hearts) are lumped in with those two teams.
How will we combat the issue if we can't be honest about the perpetrators?
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30-04-2018 08:23 AM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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These guys are the ones who have chosen not to go down the easy route so many from Ayrshire do and follow Rangers. Instead they go along and support their local team. I take my hat off to those who follow the smaller teams in the west.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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