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    Radio 4 Pay

    How the **** is/was John Humphrys worth between £600,000 and £649,000 a year as a radio presenter?

    I've just seen a BBC news report also stating that Sarah Montague was unhappy because she was only being paid £133,000 a year - way below her male counterparts. She has said she felt her pay "subsidised other people's lifestyles". No wonder she was unhappy, though her choice of words might have been more carefully phrased.

    I find the Humphrys salary absolutely staggering.


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    How the **** is/was John Humphrys worth between £600,000 and £649,000 a year as a radio presenter?

    I've just seen a BBC news report also stating that Sarah Montague was unhappy because she was only being paid £133,000 a year - way below her male counterparts. She has said she felt her pay "subsidised other people's lifestyles". No wonder she was unhappy, though her choice of words might have been more carefully phrased.

    I find the Humphrys salary absolutely staggering.

    He is also the presenter of Mastermind, which on its own would probably command a fairly decent salary. I would imagine more than a radio slot seeing as its a longstanding show and on at prime time.

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    Hunphrys is an excellent interviewer, he's forthright and probing without falling into the Paxman trap of believing himself to be the star attraction. Mastermind is also one of the best shows on TV. Whether that's all worth £600K is another matter of course.

    I've not had much time for Montague since she turned scab during a NUJ strike a few years back. Again that doesn't have any real relevance to what she deserves to earn though.
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    I stopped listening to Radio 4 news regularly ages ago. A lot of what they talk about is completely irrelevant to Scotland now with Health and Education devolved. I tuned in a bit in the run up to the Independence Referendum and some of what I heard was so patronising as to be beyond belief. It was like some of them couldn't believe they had to report on such a 'non-event'. They soon woke up when it got a bit closer towards the end though.

    On Humphrey's pay, the gap between him and the female presenters is ridiculous but it's the people making the awards, not Humphreys, who are to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Hunphrys is an excellent interviewer, he's forthright and probing without falling into the Paxman trap of believing himself to be the star attraction. Mastermind is also one of the best shows on TV. Whether that's all worth £600K is another matter of course.

    I've not had much time for Montague since she turned scab during a NUJ strike a few years back. Again that doesn't have any real relevance to what she deserves to earn though.
    Agreed. He gets on with an interview without the need to be the star of the show. Compared to someone like Andrew Neil who wants to make everything you remember about him, and you understand why Humphreys is paid what he is.

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    He has 22 years more experience with annual increases etc than she does.

    This pay controversy is too detailed to be simply averaged out in gross numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    He has 22 years more experience with annual increases etc than she does.

    This pay controversy is too detailed to be simply averaged out in gross numbers.
    It's doing my nut in, to make things clear, if two people male and female are doing the exact same job and started at the same time then they should be paid the same and that is the law

    However the whole gender pay gap things is totally misleading, even the BBC had to explain the caveat in it the other day in regards to it being a fact that on average men work longer hours and women are more likely to work reduced hours due to child care etc

    Im one of 23 people in my team, all 7 men in my team work full time and only 3 of the 16 women work full time, that's the pay gap in a nutshell to me

    There are obviously situations like TV that are a grey area and should rightly be sorted out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4 View Post
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    It's doing my nut in, to make things clear, if two people male and female are doing the exact same job and started at the same time then they should be paid the same and that is the law

    However the whole gender pay gap things is totally misleading, even the BBC had to explain the caveat in it the other day in regards to it being a fact that on average men work longer hours and women are more likely to work reduced hours due to child care etc

    Im one of 23 people in my team, all 7 men in my team work full time and only 3 of the 16 women work full time, that's the pay gap in a nutshell to me

    There are obviously situations like TV that are a grey area and should rightly be sorted out
    What is the hourly rate for you and your female colleagues though? The same or not is the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    What is the hourly rate for you and your female colleagues though? The same or not is the issue.
    If we had all been in the company the same amount of time it would be the same to begin with but add in performance related pay increases then no one in my work who has been there over a couple will be on the exact same salary especially if it is pro rata for working less hours, I have male and female colleagues that are on less than me and others who are on more than me for doing the same job, that's my point, there are far too many factors at play to just say there is a pay gap due to sex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Fleece View Post
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    What is the hourly rate for you and your female colleagues though? The same or not is the issue.
    Yup. Itís the hourly rate that the stats are comparing.

    Sometimes there will be a discrimination issue beneath the disparity and sometimes not. You have to gather the data first but thatís not the proof of anything just an indicator.

    Iím certainly looking forward to when men can get 9months on full pay to bond with their children. I had to take annual leave to be involved in the birth!

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    Yup. Itís the hourly rate that the stats are comparing.

    Sometimes there will be a discrimination issue beneath the disparity and sometimes not. You have to gather the data first but thatís not the proof of anything just an indicator.

    Iím certainly looking forward to when men can get 9months on full pay to bond with their children. I had to take annual leave to be involved in the birth!
    Do many companies give women full pay for 9 months of their maternity leave? I know the NHS is 8 weeks full pay, 18 weeks half pay then an additional 26 weeks unpaid if requested. RBS, BOS and some of the other big Edinburgh finance employers also follow the statutory procedure. My partner got a month full pay, a month 90% pay then her last 4 months are at the statutory rate. She can take a further 3 or 6 months unpaid if she wants.

    I got 2 weeks at full pay but the option was there that I could have taken up to a year and my partner could have gone back to work if that's what we wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Do many companies give women full pay for 9 months of their maternity leave? I know the NHS is 8 weeks full pay, 18 weeks half pay then an additional 26 weeks unpaid if requested. RBS, BOS and some of the other big Edinburgh finance employers also follow the statutory procedure. My partner got a month full pay, a month 90% pay then her last 4 months are at the statutory rate. She can take a further 3 or 6 months unpaid if she wants.

    I got 2 weeks at full pay but the option was there that I could have taken up to a year and my partner could have gone back to work if that's what we wanted.
    Very variable. My wife got 6 months full but its up to 9 now.

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