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    Get our business done early in the Summer

    We're going to be in Europe, it'll be pretty disappointing if we're not either by missing out on top 3, 4th or by Motherwell/Killie winning Cup. It's very likely we're there.

    It starts early and we've got work to be done otherwise we'll be going into it with a threadbare squad.

    If he performs in the next couple of games I think we need to make a move for MacLaren to tie him up before the World Cup. Maybe we see how he does in the upcoming internationals but it'd be disappointing to miss out on him because we were too slow.

    Kamberi not as urgent but I'm already thinking I'd like to have him back.

    Then we need to sort out our midfield 3. If Dylan is to sign on then it'll be with Europe in mind so that should take care of itself one way or the other. Without checking I'd imagine we could hold onto McGinn for long enough that we're either through a couple of rounds in Europe or we're already out and then it's less imperative.

    It'd be great to have Scotty tied up but my head tells me that's unlikely until McGinn's money is in. Celtic will be happy to sell to us but they'll want their money back.

    Defense is fine bar maybe another Rherras/LB.

    I'd be disappointed if we go into our Euro game with Murray and Shaw up top. I like them bother, Shaw in particular but I wanna have a crack at the Euro teams.


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    I’ve been more impressed with Kamberi. The most important thing is going to be replacing Dylan/McGinn, holding on to Allan, and getting in a real quality striker.

    Don’t have any inside knowledge re. Dylan, but it just feels like he’s going to be moving on.

    Mallan +1 for midfield would be nice.

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    Aye. There'll be some changes. McGinn is vital for me. If we didn't have him next term I'd feel we were a bit undercooked.

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    Don't want to rain on anyone's parade but being in Europe is, sadly, pretty irrelevant for us. The likelihood of any European adventure being more than two ties, at the most, is extremely low and, I imagine, pretty far down in priority in the club's thinking.

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    Don't want to rain on anyone's parade but being in Europe is, sadly, pretty irrelevant for us. The likelihood of any European adventure being more than two ties, at the most, is extremely low and, I imagine, pretty far down in priority in the club's thinking.
    You couldnt be further from the truth and although next season might not have been in the plan to be in the Europa Cup the club absolutely want to progress, regularly, in Europe.

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    Aye. There'll be some changes. McGinn is vital for me. If we didn't have him next term I'd feel we were a bit undercooked.
    Mmm..
    I have no inside knowledge but I can't really see that we can realistcally hope to hang on to SJM.We've been blessed to have him this long.
    His quality is such that he's destined for greater things.

    BUT Please prove me wrong Leanne

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    Well, that's Neil tellt.

    I'll leave it up to him to organise our playing squad for next year.

    He's not done too badly up to now.

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    One of the best ways of keeping our best players is a big uptake of season tickets and contributions to the likes of HSL the earlier we renew or purchase season tickets the better it will at least give Lenny and the board with an advantage to work with like many hibbys ive already renewed and I urge others to do likewise asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sas_The_Hibby View Post
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    Don't want to rain on anyone's parade but being in Europe is, sadly, pretty irrelevant for us. The likelihood of any European adventure being more than two ties, at the most, is extremely low and, I imagine, pretty far down in priority in the club's thinking.
    You're right sadly.

    It didn't used to be like that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sas_The_Hibby View Post
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    Don't want to rain on anyone's parade but being in Europe is, sadly, pretty irrelevant for us. The likelihood of any European adventure being more than two ties, at the most, is extremely low and, I imagine, pretty far down in priority in the club's thinking.
    The TV money from Brondby last season suggests otherwise.

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    The reality is one maybe two ties in europe. Glamourised pre season friendlies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Famous Fiver View Post
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    Well, that's Neil tellt.

    I'll leave it up to him to organise our playing squad for next year.

    He's not done too badly up to now.


    That's me telt. Right guys, disband the message board, FF diznae wanna talk about it.

    I'd imagine NL and GC already has ideas and possibly things in place for next season with different scenarios.

    Some suggesting no chance of having SJM for next season and while I agree it's unlikely he'll be here at the end of August I'm quite confident he could play a part in getting us through a couple of Euro ties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDomofFife84 View Post
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    The reality is one maybe two ties in europe. Glamourised pre season friendlies.
    How bloody negative. It's not all that long since Hearts and Aberdeen were in the euro group stages. Bit of luck in the later draws and it's doable. The team just has to be READY for the first tie which is the reason for this post.

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    Think we all have to be realistic here...

    McGinn is probably 95% away. We have been really lucky to have had him at ER for so long. If there are so called BIG teams out there looking, we need a massive fee for him since we have to pay St Mirren a huge chunk!

    McGeough - I would love for him to sign an extension to his contract but the longer it goes on, it's looking more unlikely.

    Allan - I hope he signs, but once again it will be down to how much money Celtic want and also Scotty himself wants.

    McLaren - He said it on one of his Interviews, he is owned by his current club. Also, if he does well here or the World cup, they will DEFO want him back.

    Kamberi - Same again, would love him to sign BUT we are in the same position, if he continues to do well, his club will want him back. I think he is going to be a smashing player.

    That is the problem with ON LOAN players, we are taking a risk but on the other hand if we bought them they might not have came good and we are left with a player on our books! Toss of a coin comes to mind...

    This is a massive transfer window/end of the season at our beloved club.

    To be honest, we have exceeded our expectations this season and now other clubs are sitting up and taking notice of our players AND manager!!

    That's what happens when you support the 'Cabbage n Ribs'...!

    I just hope that the midfield 3 are enjoying themselves that much, they have a wee chat and say, let's give it another year. THEN WE ALL WON THE LOTTERY!


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    How bloody negative. It's not all that long since Hearts and Aberdeen were in the euro group stages. Bit of luck in the later draws and it's doable. The team just has to be READY for the first tie which is the reason for this post.
    Appreciate what you're saying and we'd all love a run in Europe but i genuinely see it as more hassle than it's worth. Most Scottish teams bar Celtic get papped out in first couple of rounds to a "minnow" and end up struggling towards the business end of the season because of the early start. I'm sure the St Johnstone chairman said they made a loss the last time they were in Europe because of the travelling costs etc. The best thing we could probably hope for is a glamour tie like Hearts got against Liverpool and Spurs but ultimately they got papped out and didn't make the group stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingDomofFife84 View Post
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    Appreciate what you're saying and we'd all love a run in Europe but i genuinely see it as more hassle than it's worth. Most Scottish teams bar Celtic get papped out in first couple of rounds to a "minnow" and end up struggling towards the business end of the season because of the early start. I'm sure the St Johnstone chairman said they made a loss the last time they were in Europe because of the travelling costs etc. The best thing we could probably hope for is a glamour tie like Hearts got against Liverpool and Spurs but ultimately they got papped out and didn't make the group stages.
    That's the problem though, lack of preparation for the backwater teams that have improved while Scottish teams have slumped. Play them now and we'd be expecting to get through.

    Huge task on Lennon, Craig and Mathie to have the team ready to go for this but what's the point in playing for Europe not to compete. We'd be as well putting all our eggs into the cup.

    If the club (or any Scottish club) had ambition then the money from getting through a few ties in Europe would set us up. I think the club have it so I expect them to get some of this sorted out. And, while McGinn may indeed be gone come the end of August, I do reckon we'll see him in a Hibs top next season for these games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The TV money from Brondby last season suggests otherwise.
    And we were a whisker away from getting Hertha Berlin in the next round (who Brondby beat). German TV would’ve paid a fortune. We can aim high as we’ve certainly improved this year as a team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delboy4 View Post
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    Think we all have to be realistic here...

    McGinn is probably 95% away. We have been really lucky to have had him at ER for so long. If there are so called BIG teams out there looking, we need a massive fee for him since we have to pay St Mirren a huge chunk!

    McGeough - I would love for him to sign an extension to his contract but the longer it goes on, it's looking more unlikely.

    Allan - I hope he signs, but once again it will be down to how much money Celtic want and also Scotty himself wants.

    McLaren - He said it on one of his Interviews, he is owned by his current club. Also, if he does well here or the World cup, they will DEFO want him back.

    Kamberi - Same again, would love him to sign BUT we are in the same position, if he continues to do well, his club will want him back. I think he is going to be a smashing player.

    That is the problem with ON LOAN players, we are taking a risk but on the other hand if we bought them they might not have came good and we are left with a player on our books! Toss of a coin comes to mind...

    This is a massive transfer window/end of the season at our beloved club.

    To be honest, we have exceeded our expectations this season and now other clubs are sitting up and taking notice of our players AND manager!!

    That's what happens when you support the 'Cabbage n Ribs'...!

    I just hope that the midfield 3 are enjoying themselves that much, they have a wee chat and say, let's give it another year. THEN WE ALL WON THE LOTTERY!


    Do we not have an option to buy Kamberi or did I make that up in my own head. Wouldn't be the 1st time I've done that!

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    Terrible pessimism on our Euro chances. One look at the teams playing in this years group stages shows a lot of clubs a lot smaller than us.

    Like everyone else I think McGinn will be away but it’s possible that he is still with us for the Euro qualifiers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bongo'd View Post
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    Do we not have an option to buy Kamberi or did I make that up in my own head. Wouldn't be the 1st time I've done that!
    We do.


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    I understand the sentiments, and it would be great if we had a full, settled squad by July, but it's not always in the manager's gift to get the business done early.

    Teams often won't let players go before they tie up replacements.

    I think Hibs are expecting to sell McGinn, but they might not get the offer they want early in the window so we'll be holding up another club's business too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bongo'd View Post
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    Do we not have an option to buy Kamberi or did I make that up in my own head. Wouldn't be the 1st time I've done that!
    Didn't realize that. If true, get him signed up as he does some work up top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughio View Post
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    Mmm..
    I have no inside knowledge but I can't really see that we can realistcally hope to hang on to SJM.We've been blessed to have him this long.
    His quality is such that he's destined for greater things.

    BUT Please prove me wrong Leanne
    In a sense I hope he is but really?

    He's going to play for Sheffield United or whatever.

    Still, the money will be better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongo'd View Post
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    Do we not have an option to buy Kamberi or did I make that up in my own head. Wouldn't be the 1st time I've done that!
    We do.

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    Would take Kamberi he has done well so far and shows really good qualities, that we havent had for quite a few years, can take a goal, competes very well, links play, plays with a partner up front, ..take the option Hibs and look for a suitable partner for him it doesnt detract from Shaw at all, just adds to our options up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoasthibby View Post
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    Would take Kamberi he has done well so far and shows really good qualities, that we havent had for quite a few years, can take a goal, competes very well, links play, plays with a partner up front, ..take the option Hibs and look for a suitable partner for him it doesnt detract from Shaw at all, just adds to our options up front.

    Just watch Kamberi in the build up to Scotty's goal against the derby game and you can see what he brings.

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    This is a totally getting ahead of ourselves thread - would need 3rd place to guarantee a European tie. That said, 4th place COULD yield europe and we are looking good for that now courtesy of the night of the "Natural Order"

    If we WERE to get a European tie... how much would I love to see this current midfield - or even just two thirds of it - in place for the early ties! I feel confident that with the settled defence behind them that we have thankfully got, we could actually maybe even progress!!!

    Maclaren and Kamberi have made a great start to their Hibs careers and I really like the look of them - but they are both ultimately here on loan and there's not much that Hibs will be able to do if their respective parent clubs decide they want to hang on to them at the end of the season.

    So - about all that Hibs can do in the short term is wave as tempting a contract as possible in front of McGeogh's fizzog - if he signs it and we get in Europe then we could start off with a really settled side and have a good chance of progressing. (Oli and Murray up front???) SJM??? I'm not sure at all will happen with him - I'm sure the club would accept a reduced but still substantial fee for him - I'd be just as happy if he stuck his whole deal out but that's just me.

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    Europe is the opportunity to try and strive further as a club, increase revenues and invest this into the club to ensure consistent success. I'm not saying group stages, but if we're able to out a couple wins away, then we can build upon that.

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    Is there any chance we could be holding on for McGinn money before offering McGeough a substantial contract increase? Hopefully he hasn’t signed a pre contract already.

    Getting 3rd (or dare I say even 2nd) would add more to the pot from league prize money. Our strong finish to the season will no doubt increase cash received from extra season ticket sales. A European tie or two will increase revenue as well, and currently there at least a 75% chance of us being guaranteed that now. Also, I can’t see Simon Murray coming back, any chance we’ll cash in on a few thousand for him as well?

    I’d love to get Brandon Barker, Kamberi and Allan back next season. Not certain about McLaren yet, but would rather keep the continuity than mixing up the whole team again if possible. Don’t forget, we’re also in a stronger position to attract players now we’re hanging around at the top of the SPFL and not pleading with good players to come to the Championship.

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    We have an agreed option on Kamberi.

    Allan and Celtic noises sound positive on perm deal or worse case loan

    Dylan - we just don’t know but he is settled and I think it’s 50:50.

    SJM - def away in summer but we get decent cash

    McLaren - not getting game time with German 2nd tier team. Another loan or perm a possibility.

    Barker - loan at best.

    So other than SJM I reckon we have a good chance of securing all or most of the other players!

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