Plastic Pitches

[A Hi-Bee]

Should they be banned or should everyone have a plastic pitch or does anyone care.

[Golden Bear]

Plastic out but hybrid pitches are worth considering.

[Swedish hibee]

Being in Sweden, it doesn't stop us playing good football. Necessity when you don't live in the southern hemisphere.

[emerald green]

I wonder if anyone has ever done any analysis on how frequently players are injured on these artificial surfaces as compared to when they play on grass pitches.

[Thecat23]

I’d prefer they were banned. But if not the standard has to be better than the ones Killie and Hamilton have. They are the same as the ones you would play on at Schools all over Scotland.

[Thecat23]

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Being in Sweden, it doesn't stop us playing good football. Necessity when you don't live in the southern hemisphere.

What’s the standard of artificial pitches like over there? I’m assuming it’s far better surface than Killies?

[CMac1988]

Not for me in the top league. No issue with Hybrids as the artificial grass is used to keep the turf together.

[Lago]

Hamilton & Killie pitches are poor are they 3G or 4G ?
I don't think they should be allowed, but in Scotland finances come into play, hence Raith will put one down for next season.

[Phil MaGlass]

Theres movement in Holland to take out all plastic pitches, not only does it allegedly add to injuries,the home team gains an unfair advantage and seems the rubber pellets they use on the pitches might be linked to cancer??

[Pete]

The pitch at Killie looks like a dodgy 1980’s bathroom carpet so god knows what it’s like to play football on.

[eastcoasthibby]

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Hamilton & Killie pitches are poor are they 3G or 4G ?
I don't think they should be allowed, but in Scotland finances come into play, hence Raith will put one down for next season.

1 G ..at best

[SmashinGlass]

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Theres movement in Holland to take out all plastic pitches, not only does it allegedly add to injuries,the home team gains an unfair advantage and seems the rubber pellets they use on the pitches might be linked to cancer??

The cancer thing’s not been supported bar the initial research. It’s a bit of a misnomer. The Killie pitch, however, is dreadful. The number of unpredictable bounces today was off the scale

[lord bunberry]

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Being in Sweden, it doesn't stop us playing good football. Necessity when you don't live in the southern hemisphere.

Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece aren’t in the Southern Hemisphere

[FinnMacCool]

I wouldn't allow plastic pitches, football should be played on grass (or mud in the case of a certain team)

[CentreLine]

In Killie’s case, not only is it a terrible surface, they have significantly reduced the size of the pitch to something akin to Tynecastle proportions. They are doing everything they can to give themselves advantage. Can’t blame them but there has to be a limit to this stuff

[Keith_M]

I think, especially after today's game, we're not exactly impartial.

[sahpaton]

Could understand this argument 10 years ago when most pros had played their entire career on grass. Nowadays all players have had plenty experience on AstroTurf and current young players have grown up playing on it more than they have grass pitches. We have the facilities to train on 3G 4G or whatever G it is so no excuse imo.

[A Hi-Bee]

They will end up getting one and we will then have another plastic pitch to have to play on, if they could get away wi it pretty sure they would have a sort of muddy dirty looking colour to it as well, make it look more like the tattie field they play on just now.

[A Hi-Bee]

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Could understand this argument 10 years ago when most pros had played their entire career on grass. Nowadays all players have had plenty experience on AstroTurf and current young players have grown up playing on it more than they have grass pitches. We have the facilities to train on 3G 4G or whatever G it is so no excuse imo.

Not sure the players would agree wi you, did you notice Boyle had his boots in his hand at the end, sure sign of sore feet, along with all the rolled ankles that Hibs players went down with during the game. It has to be grass we play top level football on.

[BullsCloseHibs]

Kilmarnock's pitch is probably the most controversial pitch of recent times.

[Swedish hibee]

What I don't understand is why you are so against them? I've seen some terrible grass pitches lately in Scottish football via online- maybe tv makes them look worse! The kids over here would never play on them in the community, never mind trained athletes. Kids need facilities for all year, so growing up using these pitches- you do get used to them and you can learn your skills on them.

[Eyrie]

It's how good the pitch is that counts, not the type of surface.

You get a better game of football on a good plastic pitch than on a ploughed field like the PBS.

[One Day]

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Plastic out but hybrid pitches are worth considering.

I agree with this. The standard of pitch at Kilmarnock leaves a lot to be desired

[Iggy Pope]

I've said on the McG / McG thread, that pitch would not be accepted if a National League side promoted in England came up to League 2 with it. This in in EFL regulations.
They'd be demoted. Possibly even two steps.

It's deplorable that this lottery of a surface is deemed acceptable in top flight Scottish Football.
And it's been at Rugby Park for years now.

[Pretty Boy]

I've played on some excellent artificial parks that are far better than most grass parks in Scotland in winter when growth is almost non existent.

The surfaces at Kilmarnock, Hamilton and Falkirk are not top level artificial surfaces and shouldn't be allowed in the top league. There should be a minimum standard for them to be acceptable.

[matty_f]

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I've said on the McG / McG thread, that pitch would not be accepted if a National League side promoted in England came up to League 2 with it. This in in EFL regulations.
They'd be demoted. Possibly even two steps.

It's deplorable that this lottery of a surface is deemed acceptable in top flight Scottish Football.
And it's been at Rugby Park for years now.

Their pitch is a shocker, it shouldn't be permitted. I can understand the financial reasons for it, but if they can't afford a grass pitch then they should cut their cloth so they can afford it.

[Mon Dieu4]

I can handle a ***** pitch as it's the same for both teams but as these pitches contrary to popular belief play nothing like real grass then it gives the home team a huge huge and unfair advantage imo

[WhileTheChief..]

Great for schools and kids football.

Should be nowhere near top flight clubs.

[Sergey]

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I've said on the McG / McG thread, that pitch would not be accepted if a National League side promoted in England came up to League 2 with it. This in in EFL regulations.
They'd be demoted. Possibly even two steps.

It's deplorable that this lottery of a surface is deemed acceptable in top flight Scottish Football.
And it's been at Rugby Park for years now.

Sorry - but you're not quite 100% on the mark.

Maidstone are pushing for 4G to be accepted into the League structure - and I'm reliably informed that their wish will be granted at the next vote.

I've just returned from a Pub League match on a perfectly acceptable 3G surface and it's sour grapes if you cite the surface as the reason for the result.

Just my opinion.

[Golden Bear]

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Sorry - but you're not quite 100% on the mark.

Maidstone are pushing for 4G to be accepted into the League structure - and I'm reliably informed that their wish will be granted at the next vote.

I've just returned from a Pub League match on a perfectly acceptable 3G surface and it's sour grapes if you cite the surface as the reason for the result.

Just my opinion.

If you had witnessed today's televised game and seen the many inconsistencies in the playing surface then your thoughts might be different. It's not sour grapes, it's a fact.