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Thread: Simon Brown
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21-02-2018 04:54 PM #91
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21-02-2018 05:42 PM #92
The premise of this thread seems to be that we can only remember Clown spilling a whole tray of drinks over a group of young women on the dancefloor of a George Street club and causing chaos a couple of times. Therefore the occasions when he failed to do this he must have uniformly delivered the tray of drinks satisfactorily.
No. There were numerous spillages at the bar, whilst loading the tray and even not bothering to get a round in - occurances that are too mundane to recall, just as his merely adequate and even semi competent displays are. However, this thread shows that such spillages are etched into the consciousness of our support and form the identikit of a piss poor keeper.
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21-02-2018 05:51 PM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2018 05:52 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2018 05:57 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If he really was up there as the worst that we have ever had, as a few people have alluded to, I’d expect to see even a slight shred of further evidence considering he played near 70 games for the club.
Its especially prominent when when compared to the Oxley thread where no less than 8 clear howlers have been given as specific examples yet he is still somehow considered a solid keeper by most on here.
It’s an interesting insight into the mind of a football fan if nothing else. It suggests to me that if Brown and Zibi has made the exact same mistakes against anybody other than Hearts then oppnion of them would be very different.
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21-02-2018 06:03 PM #96This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2018 07:43 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What got to me about Brown was that he didn't seem to give a **** and that I can't put up with.
On a separate note, everyone seems to be able to remember at least one decent game or quality save for both these miscreants.
Can anyone remember Tony Caig doing likewise???
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21-02-2018 07:56 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2018 07:56 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Makalambay wasn't great, but nowhere near Clownzibbi for uninspiring both team and support.
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21-02-2018 08:00 PM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2018 09:58 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You also seem to be taking the fact that people can't remember other specific games from a period stretching from 11 - 14 years ago as confirmation that he must have otherwise been solid, when the vast majority of posters remember him differently (and he was binned by two managers).
I'd be surprised if you could remember all of the soft goals Oxley conceded that have been mentioned on this thread, in 14 years time. Your talking very recent history versus well over a decade ago.
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21-02-2018 10:31 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We live in an age where there are thousands of hours of old footage available online and we have websites that can tell you anything about any game in history. Surely at least one person on here would be able to point me in the direction of another example if it had indeed happened.
I’ll also disagree that Browns mistakes were worse than Oxleys. The misjudgment of the ball going wide against Hearts is comparable to Oxley misjudging the flight of the ball againt Rangers when he allowed the cross to hit the crossbar for Holt to tap in. The free kick against Rangers when Brown spilled the ball into the net through his legs was identical to Oxleys blunder away to Allo when he did the very same thing. I’d argue that a game against Rangers in the Championship was no less of a big game than it was in the SPL and the Alloa game was in the Scottish Cup - another huge game.
The biggest misconception on this this thread though is the notion that I thought he was good. This isn’t true. I thought he was steady at best, probably closer to Mark Brown than Malkowski.
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22-02-2018 06:54 AM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2018 08:56 AM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2018 09:02 AM #105This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Here's an old thread on the bounce where the best thing said about Simon Brown is he's not as utterly woeful as Zibi Malkowski.
http://www.hibeesbounce.com/showthre...for-Hibs-again
Hope it's okay to link to the rivals!
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22-02-2018 09:17 AM #106This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It also says a lot that Brown couldn't hold down a place given the quality of the alternatives.
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22-02-2018 10:41 AM #107This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Minus the big errors, S Brown and Malkowski occupy a similar space to M Brown, Graeme Smith and Makalamby in that I always felt that back four looked nervy behind them - any ball into the space between the centre halfs (that got them turned) and the goalkeeper seemed to cause minor panic, and long balls into the box from any area left me with my heart in my mouth. None of them seemed to be that comfortable with the ball at their feet either. It was so easy for teams to put us under pressure as a result of all that.
Oxley wasn't great, but I didn't feel that panic with him (and I don't believe that the defence did), as much as he could be prone to the handling errors that have been outlined - his ability with the ball at his feet, and the fact that he could kick comfortably with both, was a big plus, and I think suited our game. I would put him in the same bracket as Graham Stack, and that bracket is higher than all the keepers listed above.
However, as you have said, this thread has shown how subjective fans' experiences of players is - these are mine, and you clearly feel differently.
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22-02-2018 12:32 PM #108This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Brown made a remarkable save from Bob Macolm once in one of our 3-0 wins and other than that was mostly terrible from my memory. I longed for the day we replaced him (pity it was Zibi that replaced him)
I remember him giving the ball to Lee Miller and then chopping him down for what should have been a penalty & red card.
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22-02-2018 12:46 PM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sure he ended up on the bench for Newcastle in the champions league the next season when they had an injury crisis in goals.
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22-02-2018 04:08 PM #110
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22-02-2018 07:04 PM #112
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22-02-2018 07:14 PM #113This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A foggy midweek wasn't it? He literally dropped the ball at Crawford's feet 3 yards out for one of their goals.
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22-02-2018 07:19 PM #114This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Last edited by ian cruise; 22-02-2018 at 07:24 PM.
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22-02-2018 07:26 PM #117
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22-02-2018 07:43 PM #118
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Terrible keeper.
Fat, slow, unfit, lazy and technically incompetent.
Let's not forget it.
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22-02-2018 08:37 PM #119This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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