If the SFA choose Murrayfield

[NAE NOOKIE]

What do folk think, will attendances for Scotland games get bigger?

I know for a fact that if Scotland games were played at Murrayfield I would go to far more of them. I don't know how true it is, but its sort of perceived that Scotland tends to attract more physical support from other parts of Scotland than it does from the Glasgow area with supporters of the Ugly sisters showing far less enthusiasm for the national team than they do their club sides.

They aren't alone in that if threads on the subject on here are anything to go by, but I still think that fans of the east coast and central belt clubs like Motherwell for example are far more likely to go to Scotland matches per head of support than the uglies.

Even though the trip to Edinburgh from Aberdeen or Dundee isn't much different than it is to Glasgow from those cities, do folk think that psychologically because Edinburgh is on the east coast far more folk from Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth and the Fife towns would go to Scotland games .... I'm absolutely certain far more folk from the Borders would.

The big question is will fans actually based in that hotbed of football fervour Glasgow who do go to Scotland games and who are used to jumping on a local bus or the 'shoogle' to go the few miles to Hampden be as enthusiastic if they actually have to make the same effort east coast fans have had to for all these decades?

[WeeRussell]

I predict there will be a few people along shortly to tell you it won't make any difference to them as they have absolutely no interest in the national team and would close the curtains if they were playing in their garden

In answer to the OP though, nope... I am already keen to go to Scotland matches (competitive ones) in Glasgow, and this won't change in either direction should they switch to Murrayfield.

Still not in favour though.

[Sammy7nil]

If the team are winning and we play in a bigger stadium then yes - if they are not winning then crowds wont increase.

[Ozyhibby]

I would def be going if they are at Murrayfield along with my wife and two boys but there may be a Glasgow family who stop going to cancel us out. The important advantage Murrayfield has over Hampden is access to transport. Haymarket being just along the road will allow fans from all over Scotland to get home reasonably sharply after games. That is a big deal if you have work or the kids have school in the morning.


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[Kato]

I hope they don't move to Murrayfield as Hearts will take the rent given they built and own it.

[JeMeSouviens]

Games that would sell out will obv get bigger crowds but I’m not sure that matches that would get 30k at Hampden would get any more at Murrayfield.

I heard Michael Stewart on the radio recently suggesting they rebuild Hampden as a decent 35k seater and use it and Murrayfield depending on demand. Good idea if there was any money around.

[TAHibby]

I've got a feeling the Edinburgh rugger crowd that regularly attend murrayfield for their games would be tempted to also attend for national football matches. Though I've no idea what that crossover is like at the moment

[HibeeMassive]

As much as I moan about Hampden, I'd definitely miss our bus trips to Semis and Finals.

Might entice me back along to Scotland games, as I've lost interest in going since the matches started being at all times of the week though. I'm not too fussed in all honesty, but I do hope if we stay at Hampden that they invest some cash in upgrading it.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I've got a feeling the Edinburgh rugger crowd that regularly attend murrayfield for their games would be tempted to also attend for national football matches. Though I've no idea what that crossover is like at the moment

I'd say that it would be more likely on the grounds of proximity. On the flip side, west-based football fans might be less inclined to make the trip.

[Ozyhibby]

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I've got a feeling the Edinburgh rugger crowd that regularly attend murrayfield for their games would be tempted to also attend for national football matches. Though I've no idea what that crossover is like at the moment

Part of murrayfields pitch to the SFA was that they have an in house marketing team which is one of the best going and they felt strongly they could sell out every Scotland game. Considering the crowds they get for rugby, which is basically crap, I’m inclined to believe them.


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[Nameless]

I'd attend Scotland matches if they were hosted in Edinburgh. Getting to and from Hampden for a Fri night match is an massive ball ache.

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[greenlad]

More to the point, will there be a "Hibs end" and a "Hearts end"

[Ozyhibby]

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More to the point, will there be a "Hibs end" and a "Hearts end"

Just a Hibs end. We don’t want racism at the new national stadium.


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[stantonhibby]

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More to the point, will there be a "Hibs end" and a "Hearts end"

Just a 'Hibs end'. You have to get to semis and finals regularly before you get your own end.

[BroxburnHibee]

They won't choose Murrayfield

[Nicho87]

To many nostalgic bores will not allow this to happen

[NAE NOOKIE]

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They won't choose Murrayfield

As it is I think you are right. IMO Murrayfield is simply being used as a bargaining chip by the SFA ... they know that if its to remain viable Hampden cant afford to lose Scotland games or the Scottish cup semis and final and with the credible threat of an alternative option to put on the table they should have Queens Park's baws in a vice .... you would think even the SFA couldn't screw up a hand where they hold all the aces .... but if anybody can its them.

Whatever happens the upshot of this should be a partnership between the SFA and Queens Park, not just a landlord and tenant arrangement and both parties should work together to utterly transform the stadium .... as things stand both parties should be ashamed of the way we have been left trailing in the dust of England, Wales and the Republic of Ireland when it comes to our so called 'national stadium'

[zitelli62]

Do the good people of Edinburgh really want a rangers celtic cup final here let them keep there bigoted songs and thoughts where they belong.

[Crazyhorse]

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More to the point, will there be a "Hibs end" and a "Hearts end"

Hearts will give up their end to Sevco...

[BroxburnHibee]

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As it is I think you are right. IMO Murrayfield is simply being used as a bargaining chip by the SFA ... they know that if its to remain viable Hampden cant afford to lose Scotland games or the Scottish cup semis and final and with the credible threat of an alternative option to put on the table they should have Queens Park's baws in a vice .... you would think even the SFA couldn't screw up a hand where they hold all the aces .... but if anybody can its them.

Whatever happens the upshot of this should be a partnership between the SFA and Queens Park, not just a landlord and tenant arrangement and both parties should work together to utterly transform the stadium .... as things stand both parties should be ashamed of the way we have been left trailing in the dust of England, Wales and the Republic of Ireland when it comes to our so called 'national stadium'

Yep basically that's it but Glasgow City Council won't want the loss to their economy either and the SFA know it.

Hampden needs rebuilt but they want others to help pay for it.

I've said it before - it's a shakedown.

[Keith_M]

I think there was a survey a few years back among Scotland supporters that attend home games, that the highest represented club support was Rangers. The second highest was Celtc, but significantly smaller.

However, the percentages of fans supporting either of those clubs was lower than that of a similar survey in the 70s.


Take from that what you will.

[Clerie Green]

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I predict there will be a few people along shortly to tell you it won't make any difference to them as they have absolutely no interest in the national team and would close the curtains if they were playing in their garden

In answer to the OP though, nope... I am already keen to go to Scotland matches (competitive ones) in Glasgow, and this won't change in either direction should they switch to Murrayfield.

Still not in favour though.

it won’t make any difference to me , I have absolutely no interest in the national team and would close my cell door if they were in the exercise yard .

[SirDavidsNapper]

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What do folk think, will attendances for Scotland games get bigger?

I know for a fact that if Scotland games were played at Murrayfield I would go to far more of them. I don't know how true it is, but its sort of perceived that Scotland tends to attract more physical support from other parts of Scotland than it does from the Glasgow area with supporters of the Ugly sisters showing far less enthusiasm for the national team than they do their club sides.

They aren't alone in that if threads on the subject on here are anything to go by, but I still think that fans of the east coast and central belt clubs like Motherwell for example are far more likely to go to Scotland matches per head of support than the uglies.

Even though the trip to Edinburgh from Aberdeen or Dundee isn't much different than it is to Glasgow from those cities, do folk think that psychologically because Edinburgh is on the east coast far more folk from Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth and the Fife towns would go to Scotland games .... I'm absolutely certain far more folk from the Borders would.

The big question is will fans actually based in that hotbed of football fervour Glasgow who do go to Scotland games and who are used to jumping on a local bus or the 'shoogle' to go the few miles to Hampden be as enthusiastic if they actually have to make the same effort east coast fans have had to for all these decades?

Yes. Easier to get to for fans from the north which make up a huge chunk of the tartan army

[CLASS OF 72 -73]

Scotland must be the only country in Europe where the capital is not the city of choice for the national football stadium.

North America and Australia are obvious exceptions elsewhere.

[vuefrom1875]

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What do folk think, will attendances for Scotland games get bigger?

I know for a fact that if Scotland games were played at Murrayfield I would go to far more of them. I don't know how true it is, but its sort of perceived that Scotland tends to attract more physical support from other parts of Scotland than it does from the Glasgow area with supporters of the Ugly sisters showing far less enthusiasm for the national team than they do their club sides.

They aren't alone in that if threads on the subject on here are anything to go by, but I still think that fans of the east coast and central belt clubs like Motherwell for example are far more likely to go to Scotland matches per head of support than the uglies.

Even though the trip to Edinburgh from Aberdeen or Dundee isn't much different than it is to Glasgow from those cities, do folk think that psychologically because Edinburgh is on the east coast far more folk from Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth and the Fife towns would go to Scotland games .... I'm absolutely certain far more folk from the Borders would.

The big question is will fans actually based in that hotbed of football fervour Glasgow who do go to Scotland games and who are used to jumping on a local bus or the 'shoogle' to go the few miles to Hampden be as enthusiastic if they actually have to make the same effort east coast fans have had to for all these decades?

No danger they'll move from weggieland.

[Phil MaGlass]

I was at the Scotland v France game on Sun, whit a weekend, M,field is really quick to get into, you can use any gates on the outside perimeter and you just stroll round all the pie and hamburger stands then up tae yir seat, its well organised, funny thing is folk are told to use any gate but then end up going and standing in massive queues, which I found amusing, I walked tae the gate and was in within about 5 seconds. Brilliant, then up for a couple of beers.

[overdrive]

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I was at the Scotland v France game on Sun, whit a weekend, M,field is really quick to get into, you can use any gates on the outside perimeter and you just stroll round all the pie and hamburger stands then up tae yir seat, its well organised, funny thing is folk are told to use any gate but then end up going and standing in massive queues, which I found amusing, I walked tae the gate and was in within about 5 seconds. Brilliant, then up for a couple of beers.

That won't happen at the football though. There will be segregation in place.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not a huge fan of Murrayfield. It gets an easy ride from football fans for not being Hampden. The biggest issue that it won't solve is fans being miles from the pitch. The try areas at Murrayfield are huge and even a football pitch at it's maximum dimensions will leave a lot of space, you also have that bizarre running track on the main stand side. The sight lines aren't great either, particularly in the lower tier. There's always talk about plenty pubs etc around the area but there's an element of snobbery with a fair few hotels and pubs closing their doors to football fans on derby day but welcoming the rugby 'high jinks'. Would that change if football at Murrayfield became a regular thing?

It's a better stadium than Hampden but I wouldn't be that enthused about watching football there tbh.

[McD]

I’d be more likely to go, proximity, ease of getting there and back, and that I generally hate Glasgow so don’t like to put any money into the place, and hampden is a dump of a stadium.


I do wonder what could be done for segregation at Murrayfield though, it’s not built to separate 2 sets of fans, could easily see rangers-Celtic or Hibs-Hearts fan clashes. Arriving/leaving in separate direction isn’t too difficult to arrange, but in the stadium area it would be hard to maintain separation.

[Speedy]

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I'd attend Scotland matches if they were hosted in Edinburgh. Getting to and from Hampden for a Fri night match is an massive ball ache.

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Me too. Hampden is a pain in the arse to get to for all the stupid times they have Scotland games.

That said, I will miss the bus trip through for Hibs games.