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    Attendances

    The yams spell at Murrayfield keeping them above us for now.




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    Amazing how well St.Johnstone and Hamilton to a lesser extent on such small supports.

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    Would be interesting to see what home support averages is within these figures.

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    Do these figures include the massive away supports brought by Aberdeen and Therangers?

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    I like how Celtic are pretending to have an average of almost 58000 people at every home game.

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    Do these figures include the massive away supports brought by Aberdeen and Therangers?
    Yes

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    Slightly annoying Murrayfield away supports have put them ahead

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    SInce many have asked:

    Average Attendances for the Scottish #Premiership excluding Celtic & Rangers fixtures

    #Hibs 17436
    #Hearts 17351
    #Aberdeen 14912
    #Dundee 5617
    #Kilmarnock 4729
    #Motherwell 4296
    #RossCounty 4101
    #PartickThistle 3617
    #StJohnstone 3611
    #Hamilton 2250

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    Hibs average at Easter Road in league. 17,865

    Hearts average at Tynecastle in league. 16,699

    A far truer reflection of Attendances this season when you get rid of the Murrayfield factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    SInce many have asked:

    Average Attendances for the Scottish #Premiership excluding Celtic & Rangers fixtures

    #Hibs 17436
    #Hearts 17351
    #Aberdeen 14912
    #Dundee 5617
    #Kilmarnock 4729
    #Motherwell 4296
    #RossCounty 4101
    #PartickThistle 3617
    #StJohnstone 3611
    #Hamilton 2250
    Interesting. Thanks for posting this.

    With them including the Murrayfield attendances within their average attendance figures, although I understand them doing it, is a bit frustrating; and will probably be the only figures they look at. They'll have no reason to dig any deeper as long as they're ahead of us in these terms.

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    Another thing worthy of highlighting,

    Since moving back to the PBS they've had three 'opportunities' to hit the 20,000 attendance mark with a home game against Celtic, and two home games against us - not one of those fixtures managed it.

    We've had Celtic, Rangers and Hearts each at home once this season. All three games where over 20,000. More over, Celtic and Rangers were within one week of each other, that's impressive by anyone's standards in Scottish football (outside Old Firm.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyballybe View Post
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    Another thing worthy of highlighting,

    Since moving back to the PBS they've had three 'opportunities' to hit the 20,000 attendance mark
    with a home game against Celtic, and two home games against us - not one of those fixtures managed it.

    We've had Celtic, Rangers and Hearts each at home once this season. All three games where over 20,000. More over, Celtic and Rangers were within one week of each other, that's impressive by anyone's standards in Scottish football (outside Old Firm.)

    Aye if they count toilet seats, all the seats in hospitality, and their seats at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyballybe View Post
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    Another thing worthy of highlighting,

    Since moving back to the PBS they've had three 'opportunities' to hit the 20,000 attendance mark with a home game against Celtic, and two home games against us - not one of those fixtures managed it.

    We've had Celtic, Rangers and Hearts each at home once this season. All three games where over 20,000. More over, Celtic and Rangers were within one week of each other, that's impressive by anyone's standards in Scottish football (outside Old Firm.)
    It is strange how Edinburgh's 'Big team' haven't once managed to get a 20,000 crowd in their new '20,000' seater-stadium - no doubt the EEN/'All-is' will thoroughly grill Potter/Budge on this ............................................

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    Dunfermline are doing alright when compared to about half of the SPL.

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    Incredible figures for Hibs and only likely to get better with a certain 18,000 plus against Aberdeen and a full house against the Yams to come

    For those of us lucky? enough to have followed Scottish football in the 80s and 90s seeing Hibs the Yams and Aberdeen all with averages over 15,000 in the same season is incredible, it would have been unthinkable back then.

    I find it amazing that folk in the press, TV and especially the corridors of power in Scottish football, folk who are supposed to have the good of the game at heart, and even more pertinently are supposed to be promoting and selling it, seem to be so quiet on stats like these. Its good news FFS and makes our game, at least on the surface, look in decent health ..... they should be shouting it from the bloody rooftops

    Stats like those would put Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen mid table or just below in attendances for the Spanish, Italian and French leagues ... three of the so called big 5 in Europe ... and in the top half of the Dutch and Belgian leagues as well. If you chuck in the Ugly sisters who would make a dent in the top 5 of any league in Europe with the crowds they get its unbelievable that we cant attract far more money into our game ... no wonder Barry Hearn was so bloody scathing

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    It is strange how Edinburgh's 'Big team' haven't once managed to get a 20,000 crowd in their new '20,000' seater-stadium - no doubt the EEN/'All-is' will thoroughly grill Potter/Budge on this ............................................
    Or it'll be 'swept under the carpet' nice and quietly - just like everything else that doesn't paint them as the perfect, ground-breaking, nearly completely fan's run club that they are.

    Didn't they invent the concept of a fan's run club? In fact, didn't they invent football full stop?

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    Incredible figures for Hibs and only likely to get better with a certain 18,000 plus against Aberdeen and a full house against the Yams to come

    For those of us lucky? enough to have followed Scottish football in the 80s and 90s seeing Hibs the Yams and Aberdeen all with averages over 15,000 in the same season is incredible, it would have been unthinkable back then.

    I find it amazing that folk in the press, TV and especially the corridors of power in Scottish football, folk who are supposed to have the good of the game at heart, and even more pertinently are supposed to be promoting and selling it, seem to be so quiet on stats like these. Its good news FFS and makes our game, at least on the surface, look in decent health ..... they should be shouting it from the bloody rooftops

    Stats like those would put Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen mid table or just below in attendances for the Spanish, Italian and French leagues ... three of the so called big 5 in Europe ... and in the top half of the Dutch and Belgian leagues as well. If you chuck in the Ugly sisters who would make a dent in the top 5 of any league in Europe with the crowds they get its unbelievable that we cant attract far more money into our game ... no wonder Barry Hearn was so bloody scathing
    Exactly. This is one of the main problems, ingrained it seems, within our game. Too many apologists too ready to put the sport down, or at the very least, look for the worst whilst ignoring the best. Stats like the above should be shouted from the rooftops!

    Agreed on the Barry Hearn point as well - It shouldn't be that hard to find someone with the same enthusiasm he has for darts, but for Scottish football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyballybe View Post
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    Another thing worthy of highlighting,

    Since moving back to the PBS they've had three 'opportunities' to hit the 20,000 attendance mark with a home game against Celtic, and two home games against us - not one of those fixtures managed it.

    We've had Celtic, Rangers and Hearts each at home once this season. All three games where over 20,000. More over, Celtic and Rangers were within one week of each other, that's impressive by anyone's standards in Scottish football (outside Old Firm.)
    And they called our east stand a white Elephant .... Somebody needs to amend the Yams Wiki page, it states the capacity as 20,099 .. it clearly isn't or the big team would be showing far higher figures

    I'm still stumped as to why when they could have built a two deck 8,000 capacity stand for the same money using a cantilever design, they chose to build the super duper 'truss' stand with rubbish directors and press areas and no TV studio. Has anybody pointed out to Budge that if they had gone down the cantilever route the 'Sky View lounge' actually would have had a view of the castle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyballybe View Post
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    Exactly. This is one of the main problems, ingrained it seems, within our game. Too many apologists too ready to put the sport down, or at the very least, look for the worst whilst ignoring the best. Stats like the above should be shouted from the rooftops!

    Agreed on the Barry Hearn point as well - It shouldn't be that hard to find someone with the same enthusiasm he has for darts, but for Scottish football.
    Finding someone is the easy part. Persuading the blazers to give up their power to allow him/her the power to make the necessary changes is the tricky bit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IGRIGI View Post
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    Dunfermline are doing alright when compared to about half of the SPL.
    Absolutely

    Considering Hibs, Hearts, Celtic and Therangers would all take a big away support which would massively boost their numbers

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    Massive drop from 5th to 6th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Finding someone is the easy part. Persuading the blazers to give up their power to allow him/her the power to make the necessary changes is the tricky bit.


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    Absolutely Ozzy. At the end of the day what Hearn did to darts was so simple it wasn't true. He changed the stuffy "Shhhhhhh game on" to noise, booze and colour then took the game round the country ..... Bingo folk got rich, not least of all him. The game is exactly the same, what he did was change the experience for the folk watching it.

    Meanwhile football allows its fans to be treated as an afterthought with lunchtime kick offs for semi finals at Hampden when on a Sunday half the country cant even get a bus or a train that would get them there on time and the busiest fixture schedule arranged for December, the most expensive month of the year.

    And in my opinion .... not one shared by everybody I know .... they have allowed a league system where one of the countries biggest clubs in Hibs were allowed to languish in the second tier for three seasons, with a fourth possibly leading to us being in real financial difficulty and a situation now where arguably the countries sixth biggest club in Dundee Utd face the real possibility of a financial crisis they will take years to recover from if they cant make it up through the playoffs this season.

    This is not a country where one big club falling by the wayside will instantly be replaced by another .... a bigger league would be able to accommodate the likes of Dundee Utd and Dunfermline and not only make it more likely the could avoid relegation but far more likely they could come back up quickly if they were to be relegated. That would make the finances of the top league where financial stability is vital to the health of our game in general far more solid.

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    Interesting to see how much Edinburgh City’s attendances would rise if they did manage to climb they’re way up the leagues

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    Interesting to see how much Edinburgh City’s attendances would rise if they did manage to climb they’re way up the leagues
    60K+ crowds if my football manager save is anything to go by. Future European superpower.

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    Massive drop from 5th to 6th
    Makes you wonder what these figures would do with respect to invites to join the whispered about Atlantic League. Top 5 Scottish teams would be amongst the best supported from the half dozen countries being mooted.

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    [QUOTE=NAE NOOKIE;5315154]And they called our east stand a white Elephant .... Somebody needs to amend the Yams Wiki page, it states the capacity as 20,099 .. it clearly isn't or the big team would be showing far higher figures

    I'm still stumped as to why when they could have built a two deck 8,000 capacity stand for the same money using a cantilever design, they chose to build the super duper 'truss' stand with rubbish directors and press areas and no TV studio. Has anybody pointed out to Budge that if they had gone down the cantilever route the 'Sky View lounge' actually would have had a view of the castle [/QUOT

    Given the yam capacity to squander money would that not have been much more expensive than the tin bus shelter thing they did put up?

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    Makes you wonder what these figures would do with respect to invites to join the whispered about Atlantic League. Top 5 Scottish teams would be amongst the best supported from the half dozen countries being mooted.
    Yams would have the smallest stadium in this whispered about league. The shame of it...
    Of course the admittance criteria might be having a 20k stadium in which case they wouldn't be in at all.

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    Approximately 112,000 people (and that word is being extremely generous to some of them) watching football regularly in Glasgow. Pretty impressive to be fair. Can’t be many similarly sized cities with figures like that. I mean there’s Manchester, but it contains the richest club in the world on one side of town and one of the most iconic clubs in the world on the other.

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    Certainly seems to be a bit of a boom in Scottish attendances. Very encouraging. Hopefully a Dundee United/Hamilton swap to boost premiership further.

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    The Murrayfield games DO NOT COUNT! Those figures distort their average - especially when considering the huge away support The Rangers took to the home of rugby .
    It's how many they get at Tynecastle that counts.
    We know it. They know it, and every man and his dog knows it.
    The idea of Hibs getting over 1,000 more on average through our gates is anathema to the great deluded.
    They will not accept it and will use any means to get one over Hibs, including counting the Murrayfield figures. They are simply deluding themselves by clinging to this nonsense
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