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[lord bunberry]

What’s everyones thoughts on this? Can’t see it working myself.

https://t.co/iDukkok20h

[anon1875]

Good luck to them

[Michael]

Cool idea. Will need a lot of luck to work though.

[jacomo]

Just what Scottish football needs... another professional club.

[SquashedFrogg]

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Just what Scottish football needs... another professional club.

Why is having another professional club a bad thing?

Surely creating employment is a good thing?

[Jones28]

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Why is having another professional club a bad thing?

Surely creating employment is a good thing?

Football by subscription? Loady pish.

[happiehibbie]

This wont work due to FAN base they dont have one ! we play in the same league as them i think at there home matches I have not saw any supporters TBH

[jacomo]

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Why is having another professional club a bad thing?

Surely creating employment is a good thing?

I’d be amazed if this led to a net gain in employment.

Scotland already has a large number of football clubs, one of the highest concentrations in the world. If these guys are successful it will probably be at the expense of others.

[SirDavidsNapper]

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Why is having another professional club a bad thing?

Surely creating employment is a good thing?

I get what the poster is saying. There are too many clubs for the size of country

[Waxy]

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I get what the poster is saying. There are too many clubs for the size of country

Glasgow could have had around ten teams all with 10’000 crowds if the old firm didnt do their thing.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Glasgow could have had around ten teams all with 10’000 crowds if the old firm didnt do their thing.

Don't know about 10, but at least 5

Partick Thistle

Celtic .... lovers of all the republicanism / jumping on any cause that makes us look good fans ..... 30,000 stadium

Celtic .... Don't care about Irish politics or being a vehicle for stuff that has sod all to do with fitba fans .... 30,000 stadium

Rangers ... Billy Boys, wish we played in orange .. doon the lodge on Saturday night fans .... 40,000 stadium

Rangers ... Cant be arsed with all the sectarian ***** .. I just like the fitba fans ..... 10,000 stadium

[ian cruise]

A club with no fans, I though that was Hamilton Accies unique selling point?

[green&left]

Hope it fails miserably. Lot of pish

[Lendo]

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Hope it fails miserably. Lot of pish

That’s the spirit!

[LancsHibs]

A total pipe dream, who is likely to pay the £25 or care about the club? They are based in Annan, basically a village that already has a senior club (that play in front of >500 crowds). Pointless.
Though it has been proven that with a bit of modest investment it is possible to rise through the Scottish league system quite easily I.e Gretna & Rangers2012, however for a ‘manufactured club’ to succeed it has to be to the detriment of an established club with a history and fanbase, for this reason alone I’m out!

[My_Wife_Camille]

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A total pipe dream, who is likely to pay the £25 or care about the club? They are based in Annan, basically a village that already has a senior club (that play in front of >500 crowds). Pointless.
Though it has been proven that with a bit of modest investment it is possible to rise through the Scottish league system quite easily I.e Gretna & Rangers2012, however for a ‘manufactured club’ to succeed it has to be to the detriment of an established club with a history and fanbase, for this reason alone I’m out!

They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

[bookert]

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They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

Thanks for the background, interesting stuff. Good luck to them.

[LancsHibs]

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They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

Sorry didn’t understand most of that. Think the problem is with me rather than your reply

[jacomo]

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They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

Your post makes no sense.

You talk about tapping into a global community but then say it will fail because the people of Scotland won’t give it a chance. Which is it?

It will fail because it doesn’t meet any tangible need.

Or perhaps we should renounce our allegiance to Hibs and back this new entity instead, lest we be accused of being stuck in our ways?

[NAE NOOKIE]

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They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

This is exactly the slippery slope football is on, the end result of which will be football played in front of 'virtual' crowds with the human fans crowded around tellies in the pub or their living rooms ... how loud each set of fans shouts at the telly dictates how loud their virtual supporters in the virtual stadium sound.

Gretna wasn't a fairy story, it was a ridiculous pipe dream backed by a very nice, but ultimately deluded, man. They had absolutely no chance of growing their fan base, with the only town of any size they might have drawn support from already having a far bigger club with ambitions of playing in the EPL. Gretna was doomed to fail from the word go because it was absolutely unsustainable ... it had nothing to do with a failure of fans to accept how they had come to the fore.

As for the on line 'die hards' they can GTF. Unless you get off yer arse and physically support your team from inside the stadium you are nothing of the sort ... the only on line folk who are entitled to make that claim are fans who have moved away and are forced to support their team from a distance through the telly or their computer. The only place folk from India or Thailand or Kenya or Scotland or anywhere else claiming to support Real Madrid or Man Utd are die hards is in their own minds.

Scottish football already has enough clubs playing in front of tiny crowds and bringing nothing to the match going experience for those of us who think football only reaches its full potential as a spectacle when played in front of a decent sized crowd .... the thought of a manufactured club making a virtue of doing without a physical support inside its ground, or not having that as an ambition, making itself a success and getting into the premier league is about as bad an outcome for the game in this country as I could possibly imagine.

That's not because I am backward thinking or not open to new ideas ... Its because I firmly believe in the saying ( cant remember who it was ) "Football without fans is nothing" and the guy who said that meant fans in the stadium creating an atmosphere .... not 'virtual' fans sitting hundreds or thousands of miles away calling themselves 'supporters' because they ante up £25 every year.

Please football gods .. do not let this succeed.

[Billy Whizz]

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They’re only playing at Annan temporarily as necessity but will be announcing a ground closer to their base in Glasgow within a year.

In any case, the model is based on tapping into the younger market and rapidly growing internet community where century old prejudices about how football “should be” are significantly less likely to exist. The rise of online communities have shown that (whether you agree or not) it is no longer deemed necessary live physically near the stadium to be a fan. People can live on the opposite side of the world and in some cases never even go to a game in their lives and still be considered die hards these days. This is an era where over 45 million people tuned in to watch a video game competition with over 45k actually in attendance.

There is huge potential in a project like this but imo will fail mainly due to the fact that Scottish Football is already too well established and as a whole we generally don’t like change. There’s also the barrier of the typical British attitude that we don’t like ‘new success’ if it’s not deemed to be earned in a certain way. Take Gretna for example, everyone loved the fairytale story until they reached the SPL and suddenly they were everything wrong with football etc.

If this project took off in China, where football is starting to make big strides within society and is relatively new in that culture context it would have a real chance of succeeding but there’s absolutely no chance that the people of Scotland will give it a chance.

Maybe should look at playing at Third Lanark’s Ground, although I’m not too sure who owns the land?

[Sammy7nil]

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A total pipe dream, who is likely to pay the £25 or care about the club? They are based in Annan, basically a village that already has a senior club (that play in front of >500 crowds). Pointless.
Though it has been proven that with a bit of modest investment it is possible to rise through the Scottish league system quite easily I.e Gretna & Rangers2012, however for a ‘manufactured club’ to succeed it has to be to the detriment of an established club with a history and fanbase, for this reason alone I’m out!

That is the problem lots of clubs have a history but no fan base crowds of less than 300 can turn up.
You can get more than that at a good quality national school final

[vuefrom1875]

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Hope it fails miserably. Lot of pish

Seconded.

[CB_NO3]

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Hope it fails miserably. Lot of pish

Thirded

[SChibs]

Hope it goes well

[calumhibee1]

Might pay the £30. Would be interesting to have a (very small) say in the running of a football club.

[Pretty Boy]

I think there will be an initially decent take up of this because of the novelty factor. Are they going to be playing Premiership football in 7 years? I seriously doubt it.

My guess is that this is about raising money to make them more competitive at their level on the pyramid. They are currently 11th in a 16 team league, 27 points behind leaders East Kilbride.

[Green Man]

The Ebbsfleet model ultimately failed. I don’t see how this will be any different.

[One Day Soon]

What I think is that they have the 5hittiest name of a football club I've ever seen.

[My_Wife_Camille]

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The Ebbsfleet model ultimately failed. I don’t see how this will be any different.

The Ebbsfleet model was 10 years ago where the power of the internet was significantly weaker than it is now. Also the Ebbsfleet model simply had the end goal of buying a club with no real plan for what to do nexy to it was effectively was a perfect success because all they ever aimed to achieve was to buy a club, which they did.